So sad for one of my students!

[Wrath0fKuus]

Have and raise the baby? And her parents are going along with this? This is a terrible idea to compound a terrible situation.

[walterismydog]

Holy crap, that is awful. I am honestly shocked she is keeping the baby. I can't even imagine, and I'm 32.

[pedanticwench]

How heartbreaking.

[emptygee]

Well, if she's pregnant, I guess it wasn't "legitimate rape" then. 

[EmilieMadison]

Oh, no Does it sounds/seem like SHE truly wants to keep and raise this baby? Or are there other influences? I just...man, a 14 year old doesnt even have the mental capacity to comprehend what raising a baby will be like.

[AlpineSlide]

Heartbreaking. I don't even know what to say.

[emptygee]

May 14, 2013 16:16:33 GMT -5 bricco said:

May 14, 2013 16:11:28 GMT -5 nicbreeful said:

Wow.. they found out quick. At least she has a lot of time to think over her decision and really figure out if it's the best one. I hope she's in counseling.

Apparently it is common to do some testing, ultrasounds, etc. at time of the medical workup after a rape to determine the likelihood of pregnancy.  They found that she was ovulating or near it when she went in for her testing to the hospital the morning in happened and so she had a follow-up appointment schedule where they tested and confirmed the pregnancy.

She has been seeing a counselor and a social worker through the school district.

If she went in to the hospital the morning it happened, why didn't they give her Plan B?!!

[Wrath0fKuus]

May 14, 2013 16:18:12 GMT -5 emptygee said:

May 14, 2013 16:16:33 GMT -5 bricco said:

Apparently it is common to do some testing, ultrasounds, etc. at time of the medical workup after a rape to determine the likelihood of pregnancy.  They found that she was ovulating or near it when she went in for her testing to the hospital the morning in happened and so she had a follow-up appointment schedule where they tested and confirmed the pregnancy.

She has been seeing a counselor and a social worker through the school district.

If she went in to the hospital the morning it happened, why didn't they give her Plan B?!!

If she had already ovulated, then it wouldn't have worked.

[thebamker]

May 14, 2013 16:16:33 GMT -5 bricco said:

May 14, 2013 16:11:28 GMT -5 nicbreeful said:

Wow.. they found out quick. At least she has a lot of time to think over her decision and really figure out if it's the best one. I hope she's in counseling.

Apparently it is common to do some testing, ultrasounds, etc. at time of the medical workup after a rape to determine the likelihood of pregnancy.  They found that she was ovulating or near it when she went in for her testing to the hospital the morning in happened and so she had a follow-up appointment schedule where they tested and confirmed the pregnancy.

She has been seeing a counselor and a social worker through the school district.

Did she refuse the morning after pill?  (you probably don't know the answer - I realize this)

You'd think if they could actually tell she was ovulating... which... I'm a bit skeptical anyway** - they would have offered her the pill.

**I wonder if they just used the calendar method and asked if she had a 28 day cycle.

[W.T.Faulkner]

I'm always heartbroken when my students get pregnant through consensual sex. This, though? In 8th grade?

I'd be curious as to what her parents are thinking as well.

[rex]

This is just so horrible. That poor girl.

I'm really concerned it's not fully her choice to keep this child. I worry for her.

[Yankees21]

That is really heartbreaking I can't imagine.

[emptygee]

May 14, 2013 16:19:42 GMT -5 Wrath0fKuus said:

May 14, 2013 16:18:12 GMT -5 emptygee said:

If she went in to the hospital the morning it happened, why didn't they give her Plan B?!!

If she had already ovulated, then it wouldn't have worked.

That's not necessarily true. Plan B works to stop ovulation, but if fertilization has already occurred, it can also stop the fertilized egg from implanting, sometimes.

ETA: I guess upon further research, some doctors are saying it probably doesn't stop implantation, but I suspect that's just to appease the anti-abortion nuts. I still maintain she should have been offered Plan B.

[dizzydee]

Here they now they give a drug stronger than plan b 1,2 and 3 weeks after a rape along with antiviral drugs. Did she wait to go to the doctor?

[emptygee]

Did they arrest the guy that did it? Who rapes a 14 year old?

[KaraOrNot]

That is horrible.

[karmasabiotch]

I'm a first responder in my county to when someone is raped. They are always given the option right at that moment of the Plan B to take home with them. Some refuse it because of their belief system.

I know you might not know all the info but someone should check the rape laws in your state. Many states still alllow a rapist to have parenting rights.

What an awful situation.

[Wrath0fKuus]

May 14, 2013 16:23:05 GMT -5 emptygee said:

May 14, 2013 16:19:42 GMT -5 Wrath0fKuus said:

If she had already ovulated, then it wouldn't have worked.

That's not necessarily true. Plan B works to stop ovulation, but if fertilization has already occurred, it can also stop the fertilized egg from implanting, sometimes.

ETA: I guess upon further research, some doctors are saying it probably doesn't stop implantation, but I suspect that's just to appease the anti-abortion nuts. I still maintain she should have been offered Plan B.

No, it's not just to appease the anti-abortion nuts.  There has been no evidence to suggest that the pill or plan B have ever prevented implantation.  The fact that people THINK it does, and the labels suggesting this, were to cater to the religious right.

[fluffaluff]

I feel like this is fairly common (keeping a baby after rape) among the Hispanic culture here. I worked with a mother when I was with CPS whose teenage son was a product of rape (by a family member) and she wasn't the only one, just one that I worked with personally.
What kind of support system does she have? I take this to mean that her parents will be raising the child. Though I have a friend who got pregnant in 8th grade and finished high school with the programs they offer for student mothers.

[pinkeggs]

May 14, 2013 16:22:11 GMT -5 thebamker said:

May 14, 2013 16:16:33 GMT -5 bricco said:

Apparently it is common to do some testing, ultrasounds, etc. at time of the medical workup after a rape to determine the likelihood of pregnancy.  They found that she was ovulating or near it when she went in for her testing to the hospital the morning in happened and so she had a follow-up appointment schedule where they tested and confirmed the pregnancy.

She has been seeing a counselor and a social worker through the school district.

Did she refuse the morning after pill?  (you probably don't know the answer - I realize this)

You'd think if they could actually tell she was ovulating... which... I'm a bit skeptical anyway** - they would have offered her the pill.

**I wonder if they just used the calendar method and asked if she had a 28 day cycle.

If you perform a pap smear on someone who is ovulating, there is a distinct ferning pattern on the slide that only occurs when ovulation is taking place. They may have gone by that. (Sorry, I was a cytotechnologist in a former life!)

[emptygee]

May 14, 2013 16:37:31 GMT -5 Wrath0fKuus said:

May 14, 2013 16:23:05 GMT -5 emptygee said:

That's not necessarily true. Plan B works to stop ovulation, but if fertilization has already occurred, it can also stop the fertilized egg from implanting, sometimes.

ETA: I guess upon further research, some doctors are saying it probably doesn't stop implantation, but I suspect that's just to appease the anti-abortion nuts. I still maintain she should have been offered Plan B.

No, it's not just to appease the anti-abortion nuts.  There has been no evidence to suggest that the pill or plan B have ever prevented implantation.  The fact that people THINK it does, and the labels suggesting this, were to cater to the religious right.

That doesn't make any sense. You think it's catering to the religious right to suggest that Plan B essentially "kills" a fertilized egg?

[thebamker]

May 14, 2013 16:44:11 GMT -5 pinkeggs said:

May 14, 2013 16:22:11 GMT -5 thebamker said:

Did she refuse the morning after pill?  (you probably don't know the answer - I realize this)

You'd think if they could actually tell she was ovulating... which... I'm a bit skeptical anyway** - they would have offered her the pill.

**I wonder if they just used the calendar method and asked if she had a 28 day cycle.

If you perform a pap smear on someone who is ovulating, there is a distinct ferning pattern on the slide that only occurs when ovulation is taking place. They may have gone by that. (Sorry, I was a cytotechnologist in a former life!)

Ok - that rings a bell.

[LeggsBenedict]

May 14, 2013 16:46:14 GMT -5 emptygee said:

May 14, 2013 16:37:31 GMT -5 Wrath0fKuus said:

No, it's not just to appease the anti-abortion nuts.  There has been no evidence to suggest that the pill or plan B have ever prevented implantation.  The fact that people THINK it does, and the labels suggesting this, were to cater to the religious right.

That doesn't make any sense. You think it's catering to the religious right to suggest that Plan B essentially "kills" a fertilized egg?

they need you to be properly warned and chastised, don't ya know.

[emptygee]

May 14, 2013 16:54:19 GMT -5 LeggsBenedict said:

May 14, 2013 16:46:14 GMT -5 emptygee said:

That doesn't make any sense. You think it's catering to the religious right to suggest that Plan B essentially "kills" a fertilized egg?

they need you to be properly warned and chastised, don't ya know.

Oh, you mean they want you to think that Plan B is basically an abortion, gotcha. 

[Cricket0619]

[ashbridemd]

Wow. What a brave girl she is. I really commend her for her decision. Although I am unsure why she is choosing to raise the baby. Adoption was the first thing I considered when I was raped at 12. Unfortunately, my mother made the ultimate decision for me. Still....Brave, brave girl.

[Wrath0fKuus]

You know you're making a bad decision when Ashbride agrees with you.

[annyong]

May 14, 2013 16:36:35 GMT -5 nicbreeful said:

May 14, 2013 16:31:12 GMT -5 karmasabiotch said:

I know you might not know all the info but someone should check the rape laws in your state. Many states still alllow a rapist to have parenting rights.

What an awful situation.

Seriously?!  This legit makes me feel ill.

Only if it's not a legitimate rape.

[ashbridemd]

May 15, 2013 12:46:50 GMT -5 Wrath0fKuus said:

You know you're making a bad decision when Ashbride agrees with you.

So it's a bad decision to give an innocent child a chance at life? Not to mention, the gift of being a parent to people who otherwise would never be able to experience it? I can't wrap my head around the fact that people think death is better than that. I'm not one to deny a person the right to make that choice, but do I think the alternative is a better option all around? Hell yes.

[speckledfrog]

At 14 you cannot fully comprehend the impact that having a child will have, let along a child conceived in rape. How utterly heartbreaking.