I don't understand the photography price hate. If you don't like someone's prices, you don't use them. Most times, you get what you pay for. JCP and the like have nice studio set-ups, but then they don't edit. I don't think that is such an issue with littles, but I know moms usually want some type of editing done. Also, the outside shoots to me are just more special looking. Photographers are typically self employed and have to buy all the $$$ equipment in addition to their education, computer, editing software, etc. All the good ones that are being shown on this forum use editing, which takes several hours per shoot to go through. You aren't just paying the $200+ for their one hour of time at the shoot, but you are paying for all the hours of staring at a computer screen to get each picture correct. There is so much more than using a fancy camera and pointing and clicking.
It also ticks me off when people complain about the cost of massage. Yes I get $70+ per hour to work on someone. But I also can't do 40 hours of massage per week, and I am doing deep clinical work which is destroying my hands while fixing others. Again, if you don't like it, don't come to me and have fun getting a shitty massage at Massage Envy. For every profession there are a huge range of abilities and one can't paint them all with one brush into one cost guideline.
I think it is selfish to not take care of what is happening to your body. My grandma has known about a mass on her kidney for over 2 years now and is waiting to do anything. Waiting for it to get bigger or cause problems because she doesn't want to do the surgery.
I don't necessarily agree with this. At least for me, I have a tumor in my ear that has to be removed. Its not a cancerous tumor though. Its slow growing and not doing any huge damage besides affecting my hearing. While I care that is happening, and know that its slow growing, but still growing, I just don't have TIME to be out for 6 weeks. I have 3 kids and a full time job. I'm putting off surgery because I don't know how my family is going to function with me being essentially useless for close to 6 weeks, much less not working for that long.
So, I would think its more selfish of me right now to just get it taken care of and let my family deal with the consequences instead of waiting until a good time to have it done. Just because people don't get it taken care of right away, doesn't mean they don't care.
But isn't the loss of hearing and potential damage still horrible? I mean, I understand that it would be a major hardship, but so would things if it were to get worse and spread and become something more. Also, I may be naive, but if it is such a long recovery time, then I'd think it is something more? My mom had cochlear implants put in which was an 8+hour brain surgery and she was up and about within a day.
For my grandmother's case, she has nothing stopping her. She has no job, does nothing and would probably send my great grandma to my house for her recovery (like she did last time and any time it suits her).
Well, I had alcohol at my daughter's 1st birthday party that started at noon sooo obviously we are coming from different points of view. IMO a wedding is a party/celebration and a party should have alcohol. Even if the bride/groom don't drink there are many people that do and I think it's nice to have it as an option for people who want it.
I guess it is different points of view. I just don't see alcohol as necessary for a good celebration. We still treated our guests well. The food was good, the music was good and we got to spend time with our friends and family. We just didn't do it with booze.
I think it's fine to not think it's necessary. It's not necessary but I do think it's nice to have it as an option. In your scenario, I would have had a few bottles of wine in case someone wanted one. It's fine if most of the guests don't drink but the few people that do probably would have appreciated it.
Some of you would have hated my wedding. It was basically a BBQ at a camp ground and we didn't provide alcohol. However, everyone that wanted to drink brought their own.
I would be okay with this. Well... maybe not the campground part if there were biting insects. lol. Were there biting insects?
I was actually surprised by the lack of mosquitoes, since it was August, next to a river.
Post by TrudyCampbell on May 16, 2013 11:11:01 GMT -5
monkeybabe your wedding sounds fun because it wasn't pretending to be something it wasn't. I don't like cheap weddings that are trying to be expensive weddings.
This is probably a UO but if I couldn't have afford to have a big fancy wedding I would have had a very small fancy wedding instead of a big cheap wedding. Like a gorgeous formal garden brunch.
I have officially decided people who don't drink don't get how drinking makes parties better
Weddings to me are boring no matter who is getting married. Sure the music might be good, but the music is only good to some of the people because everybody likes different music. The food might be good to most people but everybody enjoys different types of food. I like seeing my family, but really being surrounded by so many people makes me a bit nervous. A few drinks can fix all those problems for me and make me have a great time.
I don't necessarily agree with this. At least for me, I have a tumor in my ear that has to be removed. Its not a cancerous tumor though. Its slow growing and not doing any huge damage besides affecting my hearing. While I care that is happening, and know that its slow growing, but still growing, I just don't have TIME to be out for 6 weeks. I have 3 kids and a full time job. I'm putting off surgery because I don't know how my family is going to function with me being essentially useless for close to 6 weeks, much less not working for that long.
So, I would think its more selfish of me right now to just get it taken care of and let my family deal with the consequences instead of waiting until a good time to have it done. Just because people don't get it taken care of right away, doesn't mean they don't care.
But isn't the loss of hearing and potential damage still horrible? I mean, I understand that it would be a major hardship, but so would things if it were to get worse and spread and become something more. Also, I may be naive, but if it is such a long recovery time, then I'd think it is something more? My mom had cochlear implants put in which was an 8+hour brain surgery and she was up and about within a day.
For my grandmother's case, she has nothing stopping her. She has no job, does nothing and would probably send my great grandma to my house for her recovery (like she did last time and any time it suits her).
It is horrible. But what is more horrible is the potential loss of my job and income.
Maybe I can't afford it. I'm not willing to go into severe debt for something I can still live with. And for me, its not simply an outpatient procedure. So there is that to consider also.
I guess it just irks me to assume I don't care. Because I do care. I care about myself, but I care about how my decisions affect my family more. And right now, the decision to keep my job is more important to me.
It's not only losing your boobs. You are going through a major surgery, with serious risks, for a maybe. If I knew I had cancer, yes cut them off. But 60% chance or whatever it might be, that makes it way more complicated. Most insurances won't cover it either.
While technically, it's major surgery, it's really not in the grand scheme of things. I had a reduction nine years ago. It's almost an identical procedure - they just took less out. My nipples were cut off and thrown on a side table while they worked. They attempted to get all of the "plumbing" hooked back up so I could breastfeed. (It didn't work. Too much scar tissue) I was released from the hospital that afternoon and never took any of my pain meds. Getting implants is a more serious surgery because you're introducing a foreign object into the body, but a lot of women wouldn't think twice about getting that done.
On the other hand, my mom fought for seven years with countless chemo and radiation treatments. For that seven years, her bad days severely outnumbered her good. It would take her five days after chemo before she felt well enough to leave her bedroom.....and then she'd go back in for another round two days later.
I am a perfect storm brewing. My mom died. Her sister had it. My grandmother (dad's mom) died from it. And I have an uncle with it. Both sides of the family have severe cases, which puts up a million red flags for me. I've been tested and I have the gene. I also have heart disease that would complicate the fight later on. I'd rather take a few days of mild discomfort if it made my chances of going through that hell any less. Hell, even if it lessened the odds by 10%, I'd still cut them off. We just can't afford it at the moment and are fighting with insurance to try and get it covered. I'd say that before I am 40, I'll have a double mastectomy.
I'm really sorry you have gone through all of this. I had a close family friend that was in the same situation. My mom ended up taking care of her at the end of her life. I don't even know what else to say, because it all sounds trite. ((HUGS))
I guess it is different points of view. I just don't see alcohol as necessary for a good celebration. We still treated our guests well. The food was good, the music was good and we got to spend time with our friends and family. We just didn't do it with booze.
I think it's fine to not think it's necessary. It's not necessary but I do think it's nice to have it as an option. In your scenario, I would have had a few bottles of wine in case someone wanted one. It's fine if most of the guests don't drink but the few people that do probably would have appreciated it.
We also had some people who would have been really offended if we had served alcohol--like people who were offended we were dancing. We had to choose between giving a handful of people fun and offending close family and friends.
That and we were on a severely limited budget anyway, so it's not like we had extra cash to splurge on wine we weren't even going to be drinking.
I have officially decided people who don't drink don't get how drinking makes parties better
Weddings to me are boring no matter who is getting married. Sure the music might be good, but the music is only good to some of the people because everybody likes different music. The food might be good to most people but everybody enjoys different types of food. I like seeing my family, but really being surrounded by so many people makes me a bit nervous. A few drinks can fix all those problems for me and make me have a great time.
Many weddings are boring but I disagree with all! Two of my best friends from college are getting married in 2 weeks and me and my H are both in the wedding party. It will be a college reunion. That wedding will NOT be boring, I can't wait!!
I think it's fine to not think it's necessary. It's not necessary but I do think it's nice to have it as an option. In your scenario, I would have had a few bottles of wine in case someone wanted one. It's fine if most of the guests don't drink but the few people that do probably would have appreciated it.
We also had some people who would have been really offended if we had served alcohol--like people who were offended we were dancing. We had to choose between giving a handful of people fun and offending close family and friends.
That and we were on a severely limited budget anyway, so it's not like we had extra cash to splurge on wine we weren't even going to be drinking.
Wait, people are anti-dancing?
I'm being completely serious. I didn't know this was an actual thing.
I think it's fine to not think it's necessary. It's not necessary but I do think it's nice to have it as an option. In your scenario, I would have had a few bottles of wine in case someone wanted one. It's fine if most of the guests don't drink but the few people that do probably would have appreciated it.
We also had some people who would have been really offended if we had served alcohol--like people who were offended we were dancing. We had to choose between giving a handful of people fun and offending close family and friends.
That and we were on a severely limited budget anyway, so it's not like we had extra cash to splurge on wine we weren't even going to be drinking.
If you already offended them with the dancing, why stop there? They were already offended!
monkeybabe your wedding sounds fun because it wasn't pretending to be something it wasn't. I don't like cheap weddings that are trying to be expensive weddings.
This is probably a UO but if I couldn't have afford to have a big fancy wedding I would have had a very small fancy wedding instead of a big cheap wedding. Like a gorgeous formal garden brunch.
But I couldn't even afford a small fancy wedding! We had a smallish, casual wedding. Our ceremony was in a church and reception at a golf course.
We had $12,000, that was it. That wouldn't even get you a small fancy wedding! I tried to make up for it with alcohol and good food though. People actually stayed at the venue so long that they kicked them out, so I assume people had a good time.
monkeybabe your wedding sounds fun because it wasn't pretending to be something it wasn't. I don't like cheap weddings that are trying to be expensive weddings.
This is probably a UO but if I couldn't have afford to have a big fancy wedding I would have had a very small fancy wedding instead of a big cheap wedding. Like a gorgeous formal garden brunch.
Yeah, we definitely weren't going for fancy, it's just not our speed. This is what the meal portion of our wedding looked like (found a pic my MIL took).
Looking at this I realize that I apparently sat with my ILs, Patsy sat with our friends, and my FIL sat by himself?
I have officially decided people who don't drink don't get how drinking makes parties better
Weddings to me are boring no matter who is getting married. Sure the music might be good, but the music is only good to some of the people because everybody likes different music. The food might be good to most people but everybody enjoys different types of food. I like seeing my family, but really being surrounded by so many people makes me a bit nervous. A few drinks can fix all those problems for me and make me have a great time.
Many weddings are boring but I disagree with all! Two of my best friends from college are getting married in 2 weeks and me and my H are both in the wedding party. It will be a college reunion. That wedding will NOT be boring, I can't wait!!
But will there be alcohol? There is no such thing as a boring wedding with alcohol.
Post by charlielove on May 16, 2013 11:18:42 GMT -5
I think the funniest portion of my wedding was when I was in the bridal room afterwards and my friend was walking up the stairs to see me, she was drunk as hell and did a complete face plant on the stairs. My sister and I were dying because she had no idea we were watching. And she didn't feel a thing, trust me.
I think it's fine to not think it's necessary. It's not necessary but I do think it's nice to have it as an option. In your scenario, I would have had a few bottles of wine in case someone wanted one. It's fine if most of the guests don't drink but the few people that do probably would have appreciated it.
We also had some people who would have been really offended if we had served alcohol--like people who were offended we were dancing. We had to choose between giving a handful of people fun and offending close family and friends.
That and we were on a severely limited budget anyway, so it's not like we had extra cash to splurge on wine we weren't even going to be drinking.
If someone is offended by dancing, I don't think there is much you can do to not offend them...
$5 bottles of wine are a-ok with most drinkers as long as their free for the drinker. I actually went to a wedding with 100% cash bar, so the couple paid nothing, but the guests could have a drink if they desired.
We also had some people who would have been really offended if we had served alcohol--like people who were offended we were dancing. We had to choose between giving a handful of people fun and offending close family and friends.
That and we were on a severely limited budget anyway, so it's not like we had extra cash to splurge on wine we weren't even going to be drinking.
If you already offended them with the dancing, why stop there? They were already offended!
Because I didn't care enough about the alcohol to bother with it.
And you guys are making me feel really old! I was born in 1970. Not only did I watch all those movies I was involved in a lot of the culture. I felt like I was a cross of Molly Ringwald in 16 Candles, Breakfast Club and Pretty in Pink. I grew up kind of poor, but lived in a very nice area, my mom forgot my 16th birthday, I was a good girl and liked bad boys.
We also had some people who would have been really offended if we had served alcohol--like people who were offended we were dancing. We had to choose between giving a handful of people fun and offending close family and friends.
That and we were on a severely limited budget anyway, so it's not like we had extra cash to splurge on wine we weren't even going to be drinking.
Seriously? Anti-dancing???
I assume it wasn't dirty, crotch-grinding, half naked dancing. That I might have a problem with. But just regular dancing?
We have some seriously religiously conservative friends and family. We also had to make a choice because the school we were attending has a ban on alcohol (and dancing, but again, that's not something I was willing to compromise on). If they had found out we had served alcohol, it could have put us and our friends who were still in college in a tight spot. Like to the point of getting kicked out. (not my favorite part of the college, but overall it wasn't a bad experience) I was willing to argue my right to dance, but just didn't care enough about alcohol to put my friends' college education in jeopardy.
I got one that people might not like. I think that if you work in a professional corporate office, you should wear make-up to work. I think it's unprofessional not to look put together. Also, even if your office does have casual days, I don't think you should ever wear a sports or logo t-shirt to work. It is not professional in my opinion.
uh oh. Run away from me then!
I don't think you should have to, but I also think you won't be taken as seriously if you don't. So, I wear makeup. But I put it on in my cubicle!!!!
So, what's funny is I am not wearing makeup today! We're having our house photographed today for our listing and I'd just vaccumed and had vacuum lines in the carpet when I realized my makeup bag was in the bathroom. So, I just went without because I didn't want to mess up the lines!
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We also had some people who would have been really offended if we had served alcohol--like people who were offended we were dancing. We had to choose between giving a handful of people fun and offending close family and friends.
That and we were on a severely limited budget anyway, so it's not like we had extra cash to splurge on wine we weren't even going to be drinking.
Wait, people are anti-dancing?
I'm being completely serious. I didn't know this was an actual thing.
I went to a wedding that was anti dancing AND music. Yep.