Here's a weird question (we love these).

[goaskalice]

Holy crap, that's a big reaction to a pulled tooth, I'm so sorry you're going through it. I imagine feeling a hole there would freak me the fuck out for sure, as I have a mouth/dentist phobia.

I hope they figure it out so you can get some relief.

[snipsnsnails]

Oh, scotty, that sounds horrific. I'm so sorry.

Somewhat related, but I had a friend years ago who went through a horrific 2 years of nausea, unexplained pain, ridiculous fatigue, you name it. She searched for diagnoses (including MS) but doctors just kept throwing painkillers at her. After 2 long years, it came down to a botched root canal that she had had years earlier and it was throwing her entire system out of whack. She couldn't believe how much physical turmoil this tooth could cause, but it truly was the catalyst for so many things that her systems were combating (for lack of a better word).

I hope you find answers. Things with the mouth and the nervous system and all its complexities are no laughing matter.

[MWOS]

This is nerve pain. Yes, it feels like that. Yes, it makes you think you are crazy.

where is mudslide? we can both go through our tips and tricks for nerve pain, but you are not crazy. it really does hurt that bad.

[demelza]

What a nightmare! Your molar had to be removed.... thats crazy. Are they sure it isn't another tooth that is giving you all the symptoms?

[snipsnsnails]

Oh, and just regarding a hole - psychologically (and perhaps just physically), two of the most horrible moments of my life came from dental work. 1) Enduring the pain and treatment of dry sockets and feeling the holes in my mouth was awful. 2) Having the memory fibers severed between my teeth and gum line while listening to a crappy Walkman and basic anesthesia - I still have songs that were playing during the procedure that give me a visceral reaction today.

There is definitely something to be said for how closely our neurological reactions are to the mouth.

[Deleted]

My grandmother had Trigeminal Neuralgia following some dental work. It gave her fits and she would have to have it injected with alcohol to get any relief. She finally had some sort of laser procedure to correct it. Assuming that the dentist has done X-Rays for any remaining nerve/root issues, is a bridge not an option once the pain is identified/cured?

[thebamker]

this sounds horrible. I'm so sorry

[snipsnsnails]

Jun 7, 2013 13:57:38 GMT -5 @scottydeux said:

Jun 7, 2013 13:55:32 GMT -5 snipsnsnails said:

Oh, scotty, that sounds horrific. I'm so sorry.

Somewhat related, but I had a friend years ago who went through a horrific 2 years of nausea, unexplained pain, ridiculous fatigue, you name it. She searched for diagnoses (including MS) but doctors just kept throwing painkillers at her. After 2 long years, it came down to a botched root canal that she had had years earlier and it was throwing her entire system out of whack. She couldn't believe how much physical turmoil this tooth could cause, but it truly was the catalyst for so many things that her systems were combating (for lack of a better word).

I hope you find answers. Things with the mouth and the nervous system and all its complexities are no laughing matter.

Omg.  How did she find that out?  Did she need antibiotics?

The process of narrowing things down and one doctor who combed through her medical and dental records trying to see every possible procedure she had done. She had to get a surgeon to go back in there to try to see what could be done. It was partially him able to salvage the nerve and gum damage that was done and part her learning ways to combat the both pain.

[Deleted]

This whole thing sounds terrifying.

I hope they figure it out and that you are on the mend soon.

[saraandmichael]

it for sure feels weird. i had my most rear molar removed years ago and i recall the feeling making me a but squicky (and its so hard to just not mess with it). however, i don't recall any sensory issues that went along with it. could something have happened to the tooth in front of it that messed with a nerve? have you only had the nerve pain since the tooth removal, or this is something separate?

the shooting pain being only on one side of your body makes me think herpes zoster is possible. i know it sounds silly, but have you been to a chiropractor?

man, i am sorry about this. no diagnosis would be fucking frustrating.

[MWOS]

Jun 7, 2013 14:00:10 GMT -5 @scottydeux said:

Jun 7, 2013 13:57:43 GMT -5 MWOS said:

This is nerve pain. Yes, it feels like that. Yes, it makes you think you are crazy.

where is mudslide? we can both go through our tips and tricks for nerve pain, but you are not crazy. it really does hurt that bad.

Do SSRI's help?   I am taking Klonopin, but it has rebound depression symptoms.

for some people they help very much. I'm one of those people, although in my experience they like to use tricyclic antidepressents like amitryptiline first.

I also had amazing luck with neurotin and lyrica, although my withdrawal from them made it not an option for me to take in the future.

[pantsparty]

I'm so sorry, this sounds terrible I hope you get this figured out soon!

[AlpineSlide]

I'm so sorry! Sounds excruciating! Hope you get answers and heal quickly.

[BlackCanary]

I'm so sorry you're having to deal with this! 

[underwaterrhymes]

That sounds fucking awful, scotty. I'm sorry. I don't have the first clue of what to suggest, but I really hope they figure it out quickly and you feel better soon.

[mudslide]

Jun 7, 2013 13:57:43 GMT -5 MWOS said:

This is nerve pain. Yes, it feels like that. Yes, it makes you think you are crazy.

where is mudslide? we can both go through our tips and tricks for nerve pain, but you are not crazy. it really does hurt that bad.

Haven't read whole thread yet.

Yes, this is nerve pain. I'm so sorry. Yes, it does make you feel crazy. ((Hugs)) Since its in your mouth, maybe you could avoid eating/drinking anything cold (as a trial) because that might be exacerbating the pain. (Example: in the car I can't have the ac on my lower body or I will pay for it dearly.)

[pedanticwench]

I am so sorry you're having to deal with this, Scotty and everyone else who has to deal with nerve pain. I can't even imagine.

[MWOS]

I'll be real honest here, and I don't like talking about this. But when my pain was uncontrolled there were many times where I looked at my nails and had to actively talk myself out of ripping the flesh off my leg with my bare hand.

[mudslide]

Jun 7, 2013 14:40:33 GMT -5 @scottydeux said:

Jun 7, 2013 14:37:43 GMT -5 squirrelymom said:

Okay, the Trigeminal Neuralgia is what my face pain ended up being, and it was a million times worse than child birth, having an ovarian cyst rupture, or anything else I've ever experienced.

What worked for me was 200mg of neurontin 4Xs a day combined with hydrocodone. One or the other didn't cut it. It eventually quit, but so far I've had a couple flareups associated with being premenstrual. There's also an anticonvulsant that can be used to treat it, but I can't remember the name of it.

I'm SO SORRY you're dealing with this. It is by far the worst thing I've ever felt in my life. Have you seen a neurologist?

Lortab didn't quite touch it (two at a time).  The Neurontin makes me feel weird, but I take it.  I am not sure it's helping, because the odd outweighs the good.

I haven't had kids, so I can't compare, but I will write that I did not know what pain like that existed, and if it did, I associated it with a beheading.  I am seeing a neuro.  Anticonvulsant-wise, I'm taking Klonopin occasionally, which is anti-seizure, and it seems to help take my anxiety down, then take the pain down a little, which is nice.  Don't like the rebound depression, though.

Try taking your neurontin at night. That's the only way I could take it. It does take a bit to get used to it. How much are you on? You might need to have the dosage increased.

Cymbalta might help too. It helped me some when I was on it.

Start taking a folic acid supplement every day. I think doing that helped me some.

[MWOS]

It is scary. But you're not crazy to think like that. That's some real legit pain. And I'm so sorry. Shitballs.

[MWOS]

I also take a B vitamin complex.

[mudslide]

Jun 7, 2013 14:51:17 GMT -5 MWOS said:

I'll be real honest here, and I don't like talking about this

Yup! Been there.

[mudslide]

Jun 7, 2013 14:59:24 GMT -5 @scottydeux said:

Jun 7, 2013 14:56:10 GMT -5 mudslide said:

Try taking your neurontin at night. That's the only way I could take it. It does take a bit to get used to it. How much are you on? You might need to have the dosage increased.

Cymbalta might help too. It helped me some when I was on it.

Start taking a folic acid supplement every day. I think doing that helped me some.

This experience has made my pharmacophobia (fear of taking meds) go crazy.  lol.  I have 1 300mg pill.  I started with 2 the first day, then one a day.  I tried Cymbalta back in the day and it made me feel weird.  I wish that it didn't.  I am not the ideal patient, because I feel 'weird' on so many things.

I will take the folic acid, fo' sho'.  Thank you!

You might see about getting a higher dosage of neurontin to try out.

Nerve pain is the worst. I'm so sorry, Scotty.

Sorry if it seems like I'm pushing neurontin heavily. It saved my life. I was in a very very bad spot and it helped reduce the pain. Because of the reduction, I was encouraged to um...not give up.

[MWOS]

:points at my eyes, points back at mudslide:

I get you.