That's why you're not letting him go? Because he might fall in or you might compared to those on Swamp People? How about because he's killing an animal for shits and giggles? I could be wrong - does he need to kill this animal for clothes or some actual purpose? Would he even know how to do that?
That's why you're not letting him go? Because he might fall in or you might compared to those on Swamp People? How about because he's killing an animal for shits and giggles? I could be wrong - does he need to kill this animal for clothes or some actual purpose? Would he even know how to do that?
Yum, alligator is tasty! Not sure that I'd want M to go hunting for them, especially if he's never gone before or was planning on going with a group of idiots that had no clue what they were doing, but I'm sure there are safe ways to do it. May be one of those once in a lifetime things.
(Disclaimer: I really abhor hunting, even though I eat meat and wear leather, but if this is something he or someone else is into, who am I to judge?)
Post by stingsharkruns on Jun 13, 2012 13:10:13 GMT -5
You can't just go out & shoot gators. There is special permitting and all sorts of shit that goes along with it. They only give out so many per year - I don't remember if its a lottery or an application system, and it's only certain times of year. .. like deer or turkey hunting. (at least in FL).
Post by ridethelightning on Jun 13, 2012 13:13:24 GMT -5
The government sanctions the hunts, to what purpose I have no clue. You put your name in a raffle or something for a 1 day license. They don't just kill them for sport, that is very illegal here.
And yes, I am indeed more concerned about alligators eating him than them getting shot. The swamp people part was a joke.
The government sanctions the hunts, to what purpose I have no clue. You put your name in a raffle or something for a 1 day license. They don't just kill them for sport, that is very illegal here.
And yes, I am indeed more concerned about alligators eating him than them getting shot. The swamp people part was a joke.
So what is he going to do with it? Does he even have a gun that's powerful enough to go through their tough skin on the first shot?
Post by ridethelightning on Jun 13, 2012 13:25:40 GMT -5
I have no clue what is done with it but I don't think the hunters actually get to keep it. I know it's illegal for an individual to be in possession of alligator meat.
I'm pretty sure he's fine weapon wise. I'm also pretty sure they train you in some way before you go. I also don't know which of his friends got the license. I know very few details except that alligator hunting is a no go.
It's probably a program to "thin the herd" or something. Since it is otherwise illegal to kill them, they probably reproduce in numbers that could become a threat to humans or other species.
Yeah, they are pretty strict about it. Certain days, certain times, certain areas. Training required; you can't just kill whatever, they have to be a certain size, certain firearms are required and they have to have them restrained before killing them. And they do keep the alligators (the hunters).
It still makes me sick to think they actually are doing it for shits and giggles.
It still makes me sick to think they actually are doing it for shits and giggles.
It's not for shits and giggles. It's for population control. What else out there is going to kill an alligator? (And if there is a predator that eats alligators, they should have a hunting day for that animal too!)
Also, I would bet that most hunters will eat or sell the meat and hides - they'd be stupid not to.
It still makes me sick to think they actually are doing it for shits and giggles.
It's not for shits and giggles. It's for population control. What else out there is going to kill an alligator? (And if there is a predator that eats alligators, they should have a hunting day for that animal too!)
Also, I would bet that most hunters will eat or sell the meat and hides - they'd be stupid not to.
It's allowed for population control. The individuals are doing it for S&G
ETA: Yes, actual hungers would do that, alligator is highly sought after - but I'm doubting Ride's husband+friends are out to do so.
I think I missed the part where she said it was for shits and giggles. My first thought was that they wanted it for the meat and hide...
Is there a difference with hunting deer? Bear? How about fishing? M loves to go fishing for S&G - granted, we get yummy dinner out of it too, but it's not like we NEED to fish to have food...
That's why you're not letting him go? Because he might fall in or you might compared to those on Swamp People? How about because he's killing an animal for shits and giggles? I could be wrong - does he need to kill this animal for clothes or some actual purpose? Would he even know how to do that?
She didn't say for S&G, but she didn't know what they were going to do with it, and thought they weren't allowed to keep it. I did, in fact, make the assumption that it was for fun.
And no, no difference. I feel the same about hunting all of the above, and although we do fish, we catch and release (including poking the hole so they release the air they breathed in and would ultimately kill them otherwise).. and we haven't been fishing since I was an adult.
I'm not against other people fishing if they're going to cook it. We won't cook it, so we put it back. I'm not against hunting with a purpose.
I think I missed the part where she said it was for shits and giggles. My first thought was that they wanted it for the meat and hide...
Is there a difference with hunting deer? Bear? How about fishing? M loves to go fishing for S&G - granted, we get yummy dinner out of it too, but it's not like we NEED to fish to have food...
I'm in trouble if fishing is a problem. We always fish to catch things we can eat, but there are regulations on size/limit/species .. unfortunately we aren't good enough to target fish and only catch what we can keep.. sometimes they fish go back w/ an extra hole in their lip.
Post by darkling_glory on Jun 13, 2012 13:59:48 GMT -5
I'm against all hunting, for any reason. But then again, I'm a vegan-freak so there is that.
There's no reason for hunting and population can be controlled in other ways (though, admittedly, I know nothing about alligator hunting).
I kind of get the shivers around people who hunt for sport. That they could kill any living creature freaks me out. I don't think it's healthy or makes someone "tough" or "manly."
Post by ridethelightning on Jun 13, 2012 14:01:36 GMT -5
If you eat animals, someone killed it. I've never known anyone who didn't eat/use what they killed. We eat any meat that he hunts. I stockpile venison to use throughout the year, and we eat whatever fish he brings in. He also hunts turkey, which we also eat. I even know a guy who hunts squirrels and eats them. I find it gross, but to each his own.
The reason I don't have many details is because he is at work and wasn't able to talk long. I know what I do know from a coworker's son going last year.
I'm against all hunting, for any reason. But then again, I'm a vegan-freak so there is that.
There's no reason for hunting and population can be controlled in other ways (though, admittedly, I know nothing about alligator hunting).
I kind of get the shivers around people who hunt for sport. That they could kill any living creature freaks me out. I don't think it's healthy or makes someone "tough" or "manly."
I'm not against all hunting and I don't think that there is any form of population control that doesn't involve killing (unless someone spay/neuters X number of critters/species - but then I think there's *too* much control on the human's part).