Another reproductive health issue on ballot in OH - Heath?

[WOT?*]

I thought it would be an Onion article.  lol.

www.daytondailynews.com/news/news/local/bill-introduced-to-regulate-mens-reproductive-heal/nMzJn/

Bill introduced to regulate men's reproductive health

Part of a trend, she likens the bill to men legislating ‘a woman’s womb.’

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By Jackie Borchardt

Columbus Bureau


COLUMBUS – Before getting a prescription for Viagra or other erectile dysfunction drugs, men would have to see a sex therapist, receive a cardiac stress test and get a notarized affidavit signed by a sexual partner affirming impotency, if state Sen. Nina Turner has her way.

The Cleveland Democrat introduced Senate Bill 307 this week.

A critic of efforts to restrict abortion and contraception for women, Turner says she is concerned about men’s reproductive health. Turner’s bill joins a trend of female lawmakers submitting bills regulating men’s health. Turner said if state policymakers want to legislate women’s health choices through measures such as House Bill 125, known as the “Heartbeat bill,” they should also be able to legislate men’s reproductive health. Ohio anti-abortion advocates say the two can’t be compared.

Heartbeat bill sponsor Rep. Lynn Wachtmann, R-Napoleon, said comparing his bill to Turner’s would be like comparing apples to bananas. The Heartbeat bill would prohibit abortion once a heartbeat is detected, as early as six weeks into a pregnancy.

“I understand some women think my bill is a personal affront,” Wachtmann said. “Protecting the unborn — to compare this to Viagra is not even related.”

Under Senate Bill 307, men taking the drugs would continue to be tested for heart problems, receive counseling about possible side effects and receive information about “pursuing celibacy as a viable lifestyle choice.”

“Even the FDA recommends that doctors make sure that assessments are taken that target the nature of the symptoms, whether it’s physical or psychological,” Turner said. “I certainly want to stand up for men’s health and take this seriously and legislate it the same way mostly men say they want to legislate a woman’s womb.”

States passed a record 92 abortion-related bills in 2011, according to the Guttmacher Institute, a research organization that focuses on reproductive health. At the same time, fewer than one in four state legislators nationwide are women — they number 23 percent in Ohio — according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

[secretlyevil]

Good for her. It's sad that this is what it has come to.

[summer]

I SO want this to become a thing. Please!

[simplyinpenguin]

It doesn't matter that the "two don't compare". What boils down to it is seeing how men like it when their reproductive freedom is no longer free. Obviously they don't, by constantly saying "it's not the same! It's not the saaaaaame!" Last time I checked, my uterus is part of the reproductive system, so, uh, yeah it is the same.

She can skew it however she wants, it is a 'revenge' bill against these stifling, old men, who need Viagra to keep up with their perky aides.

We need more of these. Like, if she gets pregnant, the man is saddled with every cost of the pregnancy (from ultrasounds to checkups, etc.), whether or not they're together.

[debatethis]

Jun 28, 2013 6:31:23 GMT -5 simplyinpenguin said:

It doesn't matter that the "two don't compare". What boils down to it is seeing how men like it when their reproductive freedom is no longer free. Obviously they don't, by constantly saying "it's not the same! It's not the saaaaaame!" Last time I checked, my uterus is part of the reproductive system, so, uh, yeah it is the same.

She can skew it however she wants, it is a 'revenge' bill against these stifling, old men, who need Viagra to keep up with their perky aides.

We need more of these. Like, if she gets pregnant, the man is saddled with every cost of the pregnancy (from ultrasounds to checkups, etc.), whether or not they're together.

Let's also make it mandatory for a man to have to wear a sympathy belly and one of those machines that makes them feel like they're having contractions, take unpaid time off work for doctor appointments and postpartum recovery, and find a non-bathroom space in the office with covered windows and a locking door for 30-min breaks every couple hours.

I like the sound of this.

[mominatrix]

Jun 28, 2013 1:51:56 GMT -5 WOT?* said:

Heartbeat bill sponsor Rep. Lynn Wachtmann, R-Napoleon, said comparing his bill to Turner’s would be like comparing apples to bananas. 

Not to get all scientific, but in the grand scheme of things, Apples and Bananas aren't THAT different from each other. They're both plants. They're both fruit. They both grow on trees. They're both favorites of the young set.


It's not like she's comparing Apples and the Empire State Building.

[ttt]

I absolutely think that if they want to start defining embryos and fetuses as people with full rights, they need to start requiring that men pay child support from the moment of conception. Insurance companies need to start covering the fetus as a separate person, and women need to start being able to receive cash welfare benefits for the child from conception.

[UMaineTeach]

You know what I would like to learn more about? Someone in one of the abortion threads mentions that their H had a vasectomy at an out of hospital center.

Is that an 'ambulatory surgery center within so many minutes of a hospital done by a Dr. with privileges at that hospital' or are we sending our poor men into haphazard clinics where they could bleed out? Should we look at regulating this? How does a vasectomy usually work?

[UMaineTeach]

Jun 28, 2013 10:48:34 GMT -5 ttt said:

I absolutely think that if they want to start defining embryos and fetuses as people with full rights, they need to start requiring that men pay child support from the moment of conception. Insurance companies need to start covering the fetus as a separate person, and women need to start being able to receive cash welfare benefits for the child from conception.

you should also be able to claim the fetus as a dependent on your taxes, even if you miscarry at 7 weeks, you had a kid for part of the year.

[mominatrix]

Jun 28, 2013 10:59:36 GMT -5 UMaineTeach said:

You know what I would like to learn more about? Someone in one of the abortion threads mentions that their H had a vasectomy at an out of hospital center.

Is that an 'ambulatory surgery center within so many minutes of a hospital done by a Dr. with privileges at that hospital' or are we sending our poor men into haphazard clinics where they could bleed out? Should we look at regulating this? How does a vasectomy usually work?

my H had one at a place that seemed weird.

the way they do it, you go in Friday evening or Saturday morning, on the assumption that you'll be right as rain by Monday morning for work.

Now, he had a very good experience, and the doc who did it is a board certified urologist... but apparently they share space with another medical office (and why not, as they're doing these on off-hours)... but it was strange to be in what was clearly somebody ELSE's medical office for a fairly big procedure... like, the name of the vasectomy doc wasn't on the wall or anything.