Just bought organic milk

[hass2001]

And it's expiration date isn't until Sept 11th? It's not even August?!

I hope it's not 2012 :/

[charlielove]

Organic milk always have a longer expiration date, I'm sure it's fine.

[devotchka]

Jul 24, 2013 21:56:28 GMT -5 charlielove said:

Organic milk always have a longer expiration date, I'm sure it's fine.

Why is that? It always weirds me out. Our milk will always go bad before the exp. date for sure... 

[charlielove]

Jul 24, 2013 21:57:20 GMT -5 devotchka said:

Jul 24, 2013 21:56:28 GMT -5 charlielove said:

Organic milk always have a longer expiration date, I'm sure it's fine.

Why is that? It always weirds me out. Our milk will always go bad before the exp. date for sure... 

I think it's just a different preservation process that makes it last longer. It has to because organic farms are fewer and farther between, so often times the milk has a lot farther to travel.

[thedahliharpa]

Jul 24, 2013 21:56:28 GMT -5 charlielove said:

Organic milk always have a longer expiration date, I'm sure it's fine.

Yep, if it is not open it will last.

[hass2001]

Jul 24, 2013 21:59:37 GMT -5 thedahliharpa said:

Jul 24, 2013 21:56:28 GMT -5 charlielove said:

Organic milk always have a longer expiration date, I'm sure it's fine.

Yep, if it is not open it will last.

I just opened it tonight, so I should expect it will go sour before sept 11th? (She will drink it before then I'm just curious.)

[fusion]

Well I get low temp pasteurized organic milk, and it goes bad within a week. It has such a far expiration date on yours likely because it was ultra high heat pasteurized (UHT), so they blasted the shit out of it with heat. That is usually done by a bigger organic milk company because it is harder for them to keep infections in check in their herds with typically used antibiotics, so that milk can end up being higher in microbes. Heat the crap out of it and they are safe. UHT milk can actually be stocked out of the fridge, but they still keep it in the fridge section to not freak people out.

[thedahliharpa]

Jul 24, 2013 22:03:10 GMT -5 hass2001 said:

Jul 24, 2013 21:59:37 GMT -5 thedahliharpa said:

Yep, if it is not open it will last.

I just opened it tonight, so I should expect it will go sour before sept 11th? (She will drink it before then I'm just curious.)

Once you open it it seems to last like regular milk but DH is in charge if his cow products and I keep track of our fake milk supply.

[devotchka]

Jul 24, 2013 22:03:10 GMT -5 hass2001 said:

Jul 24, 2013 21:59:37 GMT -5 thedahliharpa said:

Yep, if it is not open it will last.

I just opened it tonight, so I should expect it will go sour before sept 11th? (She will drink it before then I'm just curious.)

yes. we mostly buy from trader joes or whatevers on sale at the hippy store and most of the brands will go bad within a few weeks tops if opened. 

[devotchka]

Jul 24, 2013 22:03:18 GMT -5 fusion said:

Well I get low temp pasteurized organic milk, and it goes bad within a week. It has such a far expiration date on yours likely because it was ultra high heat pasteurized (UHT), so they blasted the shit out of it with heat. That is usually done by a bigger organic milk company because it is harder for them to keep infections in check in their herds with typically used antibiotics, so that milk can end up being higher in microbes. Heat the crap out of it and they are safe. UHT milk can actually be stocked out of the fridge, but they still keep it in the fridge section to not freak people out.

Where do you get it? A local dairy? I need to find one of those that has hormone-free milk or organic. There are some awesome raw cheeses at the farmer's markets here but I've never seen low temp pasteurized milk here. 

[fusion]

Jul 24, 2013 22:12:53 GMT -5 devotchka said:

Jul 24, 2013 22:03:18 GMT -5 fusion said:

Well I get low temp pasteurized organic milk, and it goes bad within a week. It has such a far expiration date on yours likely because it was ultra high heat pasteurized (UHT), so they blasted the shit out of it with heat. That is usually done by a bigger organic milk company because it is harder for them to keep infections in check in their herds with typically used antibiotics, so that milk can end up being higher in microbes. Heat the crap out of it and they are safe. UHT milk can actually be stocked out of the fridge, but they still keep it in the fridge section to not freak people out.

Where do you get it? A local dairy? I need to find one of those that has hormone-free milk or organic. There are some awesome raw cheeses at the farmer's markets here but I've never seen low temp pasteurized milk here. 

Yeah it's a local place, and it is super yummy. I get a delivery of local produce, milk, and pastured local eggs every week. They sell at the farmer's markets too, but I work during the times the best markets are open. I'm full fledged out there hippie when it comes to food though   I don't do full on raw milk, but I think the low-temp/non-homogenized version really helps to keep the original enzymes intact.

[devotchka]

Jul 24, 2013 22:20:19 GMT -5 fusion said:

Jul 24, 2013 22:12:53 GMT -5 devotchka said:

Where do you get it? A local dairy? I need to find one of those that has hormone-free milk or organic. There are some awesome raw cheeses at the farmer's markets here but I've never seen low temp pasteurized milk here. 

Yeah it's a local place, and it is super yummy. I get a delivery of local produce, milk, and pastured local eggs every week. They sell at the farmer's markets too, but I work during the times the best markets are open. I'm full fledged out there hippie when it comes to food though   I don't do full on raw milk, but I think the low-temp/non-homogenized version really helps to keep the original enzymes intact.

Yeah, that makes sense (and good for  you for hippying out!) and I would definitely be interested in that. I didn't used to like milk but we use it for coffee and for Max and cooking. That's so cool that you get it delivered! I am jealous. I need to do research to see if we have something like that here. San Diego county has an enormous amt of farms so we must, right?! We have gone through some CSAs but I haven't seen a dairy one... hmmm... 

[fusion]

Jul 24, 2013 22:27:59 GMT -5 devotchka said:

Jul 24, 2013 22:20:19 GMT -5 fusion said:

Yeah it's a local place, and it is super yummy. I get a delivery of local produce, milk, and pastured local eggs every week. They sell at the farmer's markets too, but I work during the times the best markets are open. I'm full fledged out there hippie when it comes to food though   I don't do full on raw milk, but I think the low-temp/non-homogenized version really helps to keep the original enzymes intact.

Yeah, that makes sense (and good for  you for hippying out!) and I would definitely be interested in that. I didn't used to like milk but we use it for coffee and for Max and cooking. That's so cool that you get it delivered! I am jealous. I need to do research to see if we have something like that here. San Diego county has an enormous amt of farms so we must, right?! We have gone through some CSAs but I haven't seen a dairy one... hmmm... 

quick google search la.mommypoppins.com/kids/here-comes-the-milkman-dairy-delivery-in-la

[devotchka]

Jul 24, 2013 22:30:56 GMT -5 fusion said:

Jul 24, 2013 22:27:59 GMT -5 devotchka said:

Yeah, that makes sense (and good for  you for hippying out!) and I would definitely be interested in that. I didn't used to like milk but we use it for coffee and for Max and cooking. That's so cool that you get it delivered! I am jealous. I need to do research to see if we have something like that here. San Diego county has an enormous amt of farms so we must, right?! We have gone through some CSAs but I haven't seen a dairy one... hmmm... 

quick google search la.mommypoppins.com/kids/here-comes-the-milkman-dairy-delivery-in-la

I'm in San Diego (that article is for LA and OC) but I did find a few when I googled, just having a hard time finding a low heat processed/no hormone milk. Gonna keep looking though. Thanks!

[TrudyCampbell]

I was just going to post this! I have 9/11 milk too. Seems so crazy!

[devotchka]

fusion Ooh I think I found some stuff: www.curdsandwine.com/LocalMilkSources

 

[devotchka]

Apparently Straus does lower heat pasteurization, yay! They have them at our whole paycheck. I love their greek yogurt hard. Bay area Mamas - if you're interested, they are local. strausfamilycreamery.com/products/item/organic-whole-milk

[biblionerd]

We used to get it, and part of the reason why was because even once opened it lasted us way longer than non-organic milk.

[mumegs]

We have been drinking organic milk for years. It is more expensive but it lasts much longer and I think it tastes a lot better too! We usually go through it pretty quickly but I've never had it go bad before the date on it.

[Deleted]

Thats crazy! My babies will be here by then. Lol

[hass2001]

Jul 24, 2013 23:59:52 GMT -5 jnoellee said:

Thats crazy! My babies will be here by then. Lol

Haha this is crazy to think!

[Dorothy Zbornak]

We buy UHT milk here, and it's never in the fridge part of the store. And we never put it in the fridge either, even after we open it. We go through a liter a day or every two days, though. Once it's open, it should last (I am guessing) a week in the fridge.

[hass2001]

Jul 24, 2013 22:20:19 GMT -5 fusion said:

Jul 24, 2013 22:12:53 GMT -5 devotchka said:

Where do you get it? A local dairy? I need to find one of those that has hormone-free milk or organic. There are some awesome raw cheeses at the farmer's markets here but I've never seen low temp pasteurized milk here. 

Yeah it's a local place, and it is super yummy. I get a delivery of local produce, milk, and pastured local eggs every week. They sell at the farmer's markets too, but I work during the times the best markets are open. I'm full fledged out there hippie when it comes to food though   I don't do full on raw milk, but I think the low-temp/non-homogenized version really helps to keep the original enzymes intact.

So, is this like the olden days when the milk man used to come deliver your milk in the glass bottles

I've been buying organic eggs since Sam was born, it never occurred to me to buy organic milk too. It's not that much more expensive, I might have to make the switch for DH and I too (we just drink 1%), especially since it lasts longer.

[christidee]

Even after it is opened it stays good for a long time. I used to only buy organic for J, but now I buy it for me too because then it won't go to waste. I really only use it for my cereal in the morning.