Are PB & J sandwiches racist?

[Deleted]

I may or may not have a case of  the giggles. This popped up on my FB feed tonight.

[Jermys]

Whaaaa?

[Deleted]

Only if you only use white bread.

[Deleted]

Even I cannot think of a reason why this would be racist.

[SKP82]

Wtf?

[azurely]

I found this: www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/is-peanut-butter-and-jelly-racist_n_1874905.html

Interesting... not sure that I agree, this is a bit of a stretch.

[joenali]

I heard of something in our local news about a leader asking his minions to not use the term 'brown bag lunch' anymore because it is racist.

I'll try to find an article.

[joenali]

thesop.org/story/20130803/seattle-bans-racist-terms-brown-bag-and-citizen-video.html

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Aug 4, 2013 22:51:22 GMT -5 joenali said:

I heard of something in our local news about a leader asking his minions to not use the term 'brown bag lunch' anymore because it is racist.

I'll try to find an article.

So wait we're not supposed to identify any inanimate object by its color?  Yeah, no.  Racism is about people, not objects. 

ETA: Racism is about race. 

Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches don't have races and neither do paper bags.  

[W.T.Faulkner]

I don't want to be NOT racist, then.

[W.T.Faulkner]

I don't want to be NOT racist, then.

[joenali]

Don't put your pb and j in a brown lunch bag or else you would be the biggest racist ever!!!

[Deleted]

What are they going to do about licorice?

I guess only the assorted variety is going to be okay.

[angelaa73]

YEAH BITCH! WHAT ABOUT MY LITTLE HAPAS OVER HERE THAT TAKE THEIR SHIT TO SCHOOL IN CHINESE TAKEOUT CONTAINERS??

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Aug 4, 2013 23:03:32 GMT -5 toledo said:

Aug 4, 2013 22:59:50 GMT -5 kooshball said:

The citizen and brown bag thing is interesting. I don't have a lot of thoughts on it but I figure someone out there is offended by it so I'll try not to use the same terms. The PB&J thing seems like a stretch.

You're seriously going to not use the term "brown bag lunch" anymore?

Because....why, exactly?

I'm never going to identify any object by its color again. When I go to buy a new car and the guy asks me which color I'm going to be all, "Whatever, I don't discriminate.  I'm not a car racist."  

[W.T.Faulkner]

I don't think it has anything to do with the bag being brown; in the video, the term "brown bag" was deemed...racist? because of the brown bag test.

So you would be able to refer to inanimate things by their color, but perhaps they just want to re-name the brown bag because of the negative historical association?

It's still bullshit, though.

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Aug 4, 2013 23:12:10 GMT -5 HRH Queen Dick I, Orphan said:

Are tuna sandwiches anti-feminist? 

What about hotdogs?  I mean maybe they are misogynistic.

[W.T.Faulkner]

Ho-Hos are slut-shaming, y'all.

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Aug 4, 2013 23:17:23 GMT -5 kooshball said:

Aug 4, 2013 23:03:32 GMT -5 toledo said:

You're seriously going to not use the term "brown bag lunch" anymore?

Because....why, exactly?

Because lunch and learn is just fine... and because I am happy about the gender neutral language law in WA state so I'll be a happy follower. 

I can't believe I could be looking into a future where inanimate objects can't be identified by color.  And I'm sure that in twenty years my even questioning this will be regretful because shudder we used to identify objects by color and I will have realized how insensitive I was being. 

Somebody draw a line, a non-changing static line. 

[polka]

I personally am a fan of inter-food group relationships.

[montereybride]

Aug 4, 2013 23:23:15 GMT -5 @imback said:

Aug 4, 2013 23:17:23 GMT -5 kooshball said:

Because lunch and learn is just fine... and because I am happy about the gender neutral language law in WA state so I'll be a happy follower. 

I can't believe I could be looking into a future where inanimate objects can't be identified by color.  And I'm sure that in twenty years my even questioning this will be regretful because shudder we used to identify objects by color and I will have realized how insensitive I was being. 

Somebody draw a line, a non-changing static line. 

I think you're missing the point.

The point is that the specific shade of a brown bag was used to determine if someone of African descent was pale enough to be allowed in to a public event during the height of segregation. The question would be "Does he/she pass the brown bag test?"

It has nothing to do with referring to an object by its color. It's the association of the object itself with racism.

[montereybride]

And really, asking for a non-changing static line is ridiculous.

We evolve and learn as people. We gain new understandings.

To demand that we should have one set of rules for the rest of time is to be purposely obtuse.

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Aug 4, 2013 23:25:52 GMT -5 kooshball said:

Aug 4, 2013 23:23:15 GMT -5 @imback said:

I can't believe I could be looking into a future where inanimate objects can't be identified by color.  And I'm sure that in twenty years my even questioning this will be regretful because shudder we used to identify objects by color and I will have realized how insensitive I was being. 

Somebody draw a line, a non-changing static line. 

It's not all objects.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_based_on_skin_color#Brown_paper_bag_test  

My question is has this happened linguistically to other inanimate objects?  This alteration of the common usage as regards inanimate objects because of a political correctness.  

It probably has, hasn't it. 

[isabel]

Oh, come on. The pb&j thing is absurd!

[joenali]

I have never heard of the brown bag test.

Did this really happen? I need sources people!!

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Aug 4, 2013 23:29:42 GMT -5 montereybride said:

Aug 4, 2013 23:23:15 GMT -5 @imback said:

I can't believe I could be looking into a future where inanimate objects can't be identified by color.  And I'm sure that in twenty years my even questioning this will be regretful because shudder we used to identify objects by color and I will have realized how insensitive I was being. 

Somebody draw a line, a non-changing static line. 

I think you're missing the point.

The point is that the specific shade of a brown bag was used to determine if someone of African descent was pale enough to be allowed in to a public event during the height of segregation. The question would be "Does he/she pass the brown bag test?"

It has nothing to do with referring to an object by its color. It's the association of the object itself with racism.

If the sensitivity runs that deep, why even allow paper bags in schools and general circulation at all?

[sonrisa]

The explanation the guy gives in the huffpo article is more xenophobic than the slight he is trying to avoid.

"Americans eat peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. What do you eat?"

WTF? Because if your parents are immigrants, or if you come from another culture, you certainly aren't American. So little foreign, outsider, "other," peanut-butter-and-jelly-less child, what exactly do you eat? HMMMMMM??

[joenali]

Aug 4, 2013 23:36:23 GMT -5 kooshball said:

Aug 4, 2013 23:34:26 GMT -5 @imback said:

If the sensitivity runs that deep, why even allow paper bags in schools and general circulation at all?

Well, since Seattle has a 5 cent charge on paper bags, I am guessing most kids don't use them anyway. You know, cause using paper is offensive to EARTH!

Only on field trip days. SACK lunch only!!

Or is that sexist??

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Aug 4, 2013 23:31:30 GMT -5 montereybride said:

And really, asking for a non-changing static line is ridiculous.

We evolve and learn as people. We gain new understandings.

To demand that we should have one set of rules for the rest of time is to be purposely obtuse.

Language is ever-changing, but the change is in the hands of the people, the consensus built upon the voices of many.  

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Aug 4, 2013 23:31:30 GMT -5 montereybride said:

And really, asking for a non-changing static line is ridiculous.

We evolve and learn as people. We gain new understandings.

To demand that we should have one set of rules for the rest of time is to be purposely obtuse.

Dup.