YHL bedroom tweaking

[pugz]

So excited to see they rearranged and cut those terrible posts off of "Ed the Bed" Now if they'll just get rid of that ceiling fixture things will really be shaping up!

[bkhokie27]

Agreed!

[sb]

I don't think they'll get rid of the ceiling fixture.

And I liked the poster bed. It's so boring now. I hate the mirror they have over the bed now.

Overall, with the furniture placement and the new rug, I think they're heading in a better direction.

[heygrey]

definite improvement.

i so wish the light fixture would go. it might be okay in a fun, quirky kids playroom, but it just fit with the bedroom.

[housegeek]

I liked the poster bed too. I guess the room looks better/ more spacious in photos without, but it's meh. I like the mock ups with the dark floor/ dresser though.

[Deleted]

Yay, finally! It's kind of funny how it takes them months and months to realize something doesn't work when many on this board recognize it instantly.

[emoflamingo]

I liked the tall poster bed when it was on the solid wall. But it looks much better without on the wall its on now. And I like the way it's moving too. I think they need a more simple light fixture on the ceiling. Too busy with the rug pattern AND the mirror.

[sallybrown]

I just don't get why they bought that bed, only to saw it all apart and already talk of replacing it? Seems like it'd be wiser just to save their cash until they can get what they want. I feel like they waste their money on junk rather than just being patient to get what they really want.

I never liked that bed and think that room is so awkward like every other room in that house. I don't understand what they saw in that house - to me, it looks all pieced together and like it has a bad floor plan. Not a fan of the kitchen layout, or fireplace, or their bedroom, or that godawful sun porch addition.

[sailorgray]

I can't believe the sawed the bed either. I do like their bedroom, though. I know that if I saw it in person, I would be in love. I really hope they don't darken that little dresser. I love it just the way it is now.

[ssmjlm]

I think they have to keep the bed b/c they don't have a boxspring, just that organic mattress. But sawing it off was a bit BSC to me. Since now they're talking about how the headboard isn't big enough.

I don't understand why they don't something with that nook? It's not that hard to build in some shelving and would be better than that small dresser.

[sassafrass]

I personally like it the other way better. I think the nook area and the window can be put to much better use. It just looks too cluttered to me now.

[pinkroses]

I like this layout a lot better. I hated that you could see their bed from the front door.

I think the tall bed and the attention-grabbing light were too much together. They needed to pick one or the other, and they picked the light, which is fine. Not my style, but fine. It's too bad that they bought that bed and then took away everything that made it interesting and unique, but oh well.

[hesitantbride]

I am liking the room better--I don't find it too cluttered, just interesting enough. The room definitely looks more filled out with furniture (at least the views they showed). I always thought it looked too empty with the other lay out and the small mid-century night stands.

Here's what annoys me: At the start of the bed-moving post they do refer to their comment that they believed there was only one position for the bed (the one they started with). Yet they don't capture just how hard they held onto that position, and for a long time. In other posts related to the bedroom and in the comments, Sherry would again and again say that there was only *one* place for the bed. Again and again, they mentioned just how perfectly they loved seeing the light reflected in their bathroom mirror from the bed. So it took them 1.5 years to admit there was indeed another position for the bed?

Also, just count up all the things they have gone back on in the design of the bedroom:

1. The bed (they cut it down)
2. The duvet (which they originally designed the entire room around, including paint and curtains)
3. The curtains (now they are back to what they used in the old house)
4. The rug (this is now the second big rug including the family room that they have changed out/bought anew)
5. The layout

To me, this room is looking a lot more like their old bedroom. They just wasted a lot of time and money coming around. I hope they also get rid of that hideous light.

In the comments, they mentioned about putting in a french door out to their new deck--what do you think about that?

[peach]

I am shocked they didn't cut the bed posts 1/3 of the way, decorate the tops and then cut them down a bit more in a few months. And then do a third post chopping them all off.
Man, they could have stretched that out into like 3 or 4 "posts"

Someone should be keeping a tally of how much money they waste on stuff that they change. Didn't they buy these big finials for the top of that bed? And paint to match the bed? And then they took that off, and hot glued ribbon or something else god-awful around the tops? And now they are chopping them off. And buying/building a new headboard. What a freaking waste of money. Why didn't they just diy a headboard in the first freaking place? They are also on their second or third duvet cover and curtains for this room, not to mention the stupid horse art they bought and then got rid of right away.

[hesitantbride]

Jun 20, 2012 9:28:34 GMT -5 peach said:

I am shocked they didn't cut the bed posts 1/3 of the way, decorate the tops and then cut them down a bit more in a few months. And then do a third post chopping them all off.
Man, they could have stretched that out into like 3 or 4 "posts"

Someone should be keeping a tally of how much money they waste on stuff that they change. Didn't they buy these big finials for the top of that bed? And paint to match the bed? And then they took that off, and hot glued ribbon or something else god-awful around the tops? And now they are chopping them off. And buying/building a new headboard. What a freaking waste of money. Why didn't they just diy a headboard in the first freaking place? They are also on their second or third duvet cover and curtains for this room, not to mention the stupid horse art they bought and then got rid of right away.

Oohh, good points, peach. I had forgotten that they had previously tried to modify the bed posts with the finials and the ribbon. I remember they tried the ribbon on the advice of Bryn Alexandra, who pointed them toward real design pictures of people using *paint* to distinguish the tops of the posts. YHL couldn't even follow this higher-end look well.

Why did they even buy that particular bed in the first place? I mean, I know they needed a bed, but that particular bed was yet another ill-advised purchase.

[pinkeggs]

Jun 19, 2012 21:42:14 GMT -5 sallybrown said:

I just don't get why they bought that bed, only to saw it all apart and already talk of replacing it? Seems like it'd be wiser just to save their cash until they can get what they want. I feel like they waste their money on junk rather than just being patient to get what they really want.

I never liked that bed and think that room is so awkward like every other room in that house. I don't understand what they saw in that house - to me, it looks all pieced together and like it has a bad floor plan. Not a fan of the kitchen layout, or fireplace, or their bedroom, or that godawful sun porch addition.

This is where I've always been, too. You can do all the projects in the world, but nothing is going to cure an awkward floorplan. It feels like 3 different style houses all pieced together. I kind of wonder if they will end up moving again in the next 3-5 years?

I also stand by my theory that eventually this house will be just like their first one. Exhibit A: bedroom lol

[housegeek]

I'm really annoyed at their post today. He googled on the Internet but didn't actually look up code for his county? They have wasted So Much Money. The auger rental alone was 65, for holes they might be able to use but now have to do again anyway. Ugh. Stupid stupids.

And I didn't even notice the room was changed, I remember their " well never change it!" commentary.

[dexteroni]

I like the change. Moving the bed to the other wall is a huge improvement. I didn't realize until they showed the shot from the hallway how awkward it had been. Having the door open onto the side of the bed is bad feng shui (don't mock - it is. And even if you aren't into that, it's still bad room flow). This layout makes so much more sense, and seeing the dresser in the doorway is so much nicer than the side of a messy bed.

I don't care that they buy stuff and then change their minds. So do a lot of people. I would rather see someone go "oops, we misjudged, here's how we fixed it" than someone who pretends to do everything perfectly on the first try. I don't always like their aesthetic choices, but I like that they 'fess up when they screw up.

[FoxInFiji]

Jun 20, 2012 10:24:31 GMT -5 housegeek said:

I'm really annoyed at their post today. He googled on the Internet but didn't actually look up code for his county? They have wasted So Much Money. The auger rental alone was 65, for holes they might be able to use but now have to do again anyway. Ugh. Stupid stupids.

And I didn't even notice the room was changed, I remember their " well never change it!" commentary.

OMG what a freakin' idiot!! It only takes one phone call to the inspectors office to confirm if what he had read online would work or not. And going down to your local library to read the code yourself or finding it online is not hard either. It's not like the stuff is secret and only professionals have access to it!

Choosing to not use PT wood for your ledger boards even if it isn't required by code for the brick side is dumb. Those will begin to rot out in only a few years and then your screwed. I mean going cheap on the decking is one thing those can easily be replaced but going cheap on the structural element of the deck is a bad idea! The whole thing needs to come down to replace those. Not to mention you'll probably need new holes in your house to attach it. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know paying $50 more for wood that resists rotting is a good idea.

As far as ledger vs free standing why can't they use PT wood on the siding side and free stand it on the brick side? Installing with a ledger board is infinitely easier than free standing posts. Doing a combo would ensure that at least one side is at the correct pitch and height and make cutting off those posts at the right height easier.

And the poor us we're just DIYers we can't be expected to know everything....only experience pros pass both inspections because our area is so strict...are you kidding me?! I think you got off easy. Looks like you don't know the first thing when it comes to building a deck. I refuse to be lumped into the DIY category with them!

[dexteroni]

^Wow, you sound really angry about this.

[Cheerio]

Jun 20, 2012 11:11:42 GMT -5 FoxInFiji said:

Jun 20, 2012 10:24:31 GMT -5 housegeek said:

I'm really annoyed at their post today. He googled on the Internet but didn't actually look up code for his county? They have wasted So Much Money. The auger rental alone was 65, for holes they might be able to use but now have to do again anyway. Ugh. Stupid stupids.

And I didn't even notice the room was changed, I remember their " well never change it!" commentary.

OMG what a freakin' idiot!! It only takes one phone call to the inspectors office to confirm if what he had read online would work or not. And going down to your local library to read the code yourself or finding it online is not hard either. It's not like the stuff is secret and only professionals have access to it!

Choosing to not use PT wood for your ledger boards even if it isn't required by code for the brick side is dumb. Those will begin to rot out in only a few years and then your screwed. I mean going cheap on the decking is one thing those can easily be replaced but going cheap on the structural element of the deck is a bad idea! The whole thing needs to come down to replace those. Not to mention you'll probably need new holes in your house to attach it. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know paying $50 more for wood that resists rotting is a good idea.

As far as ledger vs free standing why can't they use PT wood on the siding side and free stand it on the brick side? Installing with a ledger board is infinitely easier than free standing posts. Doing a combo would ensure that at least one side is at the correct pitch and height and make cutting off those posts at the right height easier.

And the poor us we're just DIYers we can't be expected to know everything....only experience pros pass both inspections because our area is so strict...are you kidding me?! I think you got off easy. Looks like you don't know the first thing when it comes to building a deck. I refuse to be lumped into the DIY category with them!

I don't think you read it correctly. The ledger boards were pressure treated. The rim boards, where the ledgers connect to the house, were not PT, so even though they installed flashing, it was not up to code. They would have to replace the rim boards to continue on with their original plan, which would be a lot more work than just doing the free standing deck, which is why they decided on the latter.

On the bedroom tweaks, I think it's looking good. I know they aren't professionals and don't fault them for changing their minds when they decide something doesn't work. I agree with the PP, though, that I like the dresser the way it is and hope they don't stain it a darker color.

[Deleted]

Some things are better left to the pros, or at the very least someone who has knowledge of codes, structures and such (like Fox). There are simply some things that you can't DIY without truly knowing what you are doing. A deck IMO is definitely one of those things. Saving a few bucks is definitely not worth potentially compromising the safety of humans or the integrity of your home. I do give them kudos though for admitting they failed inspection. That had to sting a little!

[heygrey]

it really does not bother me that they change their minds about things, even things they were adamant about liking previously. lord knows i change things in my house almost daily. i probably declared half a dozen furniture configurations in our living room "the one" before actually figuring out what works best and it took over a year to sort that out. for me, diy and decor and all that jazz takes a lot of living with it to figure out what i like or don't like or where i can change my mind and try something previously dismissed.

[FoxInFiji]

Jun 20, 2012 11:24:03 GMT -5 Cheerio said:

I don't think you read it correctly. The ledger boards were pressure treated. The rim boards, where the ledgers connect to the house, were not PT, so even though they installed flashing, it was not up to code. They would have to replace the rim boards to continue on with their original plan, which would be a lot more work than just doing the free standing deck, which is why they decided on the latter.

Yes you're right it was the rim boards. But I still say why the hell would you ever install non-PT rim boards?! I have never heard of such a thing. They are lucky that the inspector came at a time when he could see that or he would have never been able to find that after the fact.

They would have had to tear off the ledger boards either way because they installed it incorrectly in the first place. But still using a ledger on at least the long side with siding will save them a lot of hassle during the install. There is a reason carpenters use them for decks on the back of houses. They are the base on which everything else is built around. They cost less than posts and are more structurally sound. Now they just have a bunch of holes penetrating their house that won't be used. Can we say broken vapor barrier?

If they weren't going to learn how to install a deck correctly they should have ponied up the money to hire it out. (I know fat chance of that right?) And yes I'm passionate about the subject. I rarely comment on yhl posts because I don't follow their blog but this is far worse than Frankenstein doors IMO. This is the health and safety of their family when the deck rots out and someone falls through it.

[peach]

It scares me that they show step by steps of their projects because they truly have no freaking clue so much of the time. That's fine, but dont do a tutorial on something you are doing a shit tastic job of!

[housegeek]

<3 's Fox

[ssmjlm]

I just asked DH who used to professionally build decks and he said he personally always prefers a floating deck vs attached.

His eyes also got real big when I used the words "bolted to brick" and "blamed the permit office.".

[princepissedalot]

I can't must one ounce of sympathy for them and the deck situation.

[TBM]

Jun 20, 2012 9:46:01 GMT -5 pinkeggs said:

I also stand by my theory that eventually this house will be just like their first one.

This has been my prediction since they first started decorating this house. I loved that they were pushing their comfort zone, but their lack of knowledge of how to use color well led me to believe that when they realized that their choices weren't working together, they would revert to the familiar.

I had hoped that my feeling that they were not really anything more than people with limited creativity but decent google skills and a willingness to diy would be proven wrong, but it wasn't.