Teen girl writes response to "slut shame" post

[dojo]

Wow, very eloquent and she made some points I hadn't considered. What a little firecracker!

[mscatra]

Love her response. I missed the talk about this on here, but I did see the original posting elsewhere and thought that the mom was completely over the top. Protect your children from predators, yes. Take away their ability to make decisions for themselves and possibly view the human body (omg - BOOB and NIPPLE OUTLINES! Hide, children, hide!!) as a normal, no.

[orriskitten]

I'm so torn because I do see both sides of this!

Not all duckfaced photos are inappropriate, but not all of them are innocent. I have spoken with young girls who say they need to maintain a certain social media image of sexiness or they will feel like they don't belong. I think there is a lot more overt sexuality now that we have the relative anonymity (or not) of the internet. You no longer have to look into someone's eyes to do a strip tease. YouTube and things like that make it so you can do it without seeing your audience, which seems to make some people or kids do things they normally wouldn't do in person.

I know what I was up to as a teen on the internet. It was NOT okay. Would I do that in person? Most likely not. But online, even though it was my name, my picture and my voice, I managed to meet and "date" a 26 year old pervert when I was only 13. I thought I was cool. Now as an almost 26 year old I'm ashamed with myself and disgusted with that guy beyond words.

Its a slippery slope in both directions. We cannot expect teens to not see some things, but we cannot expect all teens to be inappropriate.

[fusion]

I have to agree. The original post left such a nasty taste in my mouth. The mom in that one obviously has some serious issues she needs to address and it is sad that she is scrutinizing images with her sons to see if girls are wearing bras :gag:

[mscatra]

Sept 10, 2013 21:03:21 GMT -5 @chelsmonster said:

Sept 10, 2013 20:41:42 GMT -5 fusion said:

I have to agree. The original post left such a nasty taste in my mouth. The mom in that one obviously has some serious issues she needs to address and it is sad that she is scrutinizing images with her sons to see if girls are wearing bras :gag:

Yeah, just picturing them all standing there laughing and talking about these girls just makes me sick. That's not how you should be showing your boys how to treat girls.

Exactly.  I understand what she's going for, but I think overall she's just teaching her boys how to objectify females.  Even sending a private message to certain offenders would have been better than taking all girls and making them one lump.

[laurack]

I hated everything about the original post so this one I like obviously

[Regina Philange]

I like her and this article. Good points. Rock on 14 year old, rock on.

[katfco]

I like this article, that CNN did on it: www.cnn.com/2013/09/10/living/parents-double-standard-boys-girls-online/index.html?hpt=hp_c4

[Regina Philange]

Sept 11, 2013 9:37:25 GMT -5 katfco said:

I like this article, that CNN did on it: www.cnn.com/2013/09/10/living/parents-double-standard-boys-girls-online/index.html?hpt=hp_c4

Young men need to be taught that respect is the primary thing to consider when seeing a young woman," said Hartstein. "It's important to try to teach boys, from an early age, that girls are more than the clothes they wear and to help boys see the person underneath."

I liked this part.

[mscatra]

Sept 11, 2013 9:03:02 GMT -5 @chelsmonster said:

Sept 10, 2013 21:10:20 GMT -5 mscatra said:

Exactly.  I understand what she's going for, but I think overall she's just teaching her boys how to objectify females.  Even sending a private message to certain offenders would have been better than taking all girls and making them one lump.

I don't know- even messaging a girl- that's an adult telling a young girl that she should be ashamed of what she's doing...I'm not saying teenage girls aren't doing a lot of this for attention, but that doesn't warrant a grown woman writing an essay about how she and her boys are laughing at you for your poses.

Oh, I agree that messaging isn't a great idea either, just done properly (less lighthearted and shamingly (<--word?)) it's perhaps a better alternative to lumping a girls into a collective "I know you all want to be sluts with your bikinis and jammies  " group and showing her boys how to treat people, male or female, as individuals.  Her post and attitude reek of a superiority complex that I would hate to see her kids using on my kid someday in the workplace, kwim?