CD Notice: Chinese Knockoffs

[jennlin]

am i missing something? all i see is a link to an alvababy diaper..and the print is something that bg uses? judging by the comments, it's a PUL fabric that BG and alva both decided to use, so bg is upset about it? esp since the fit of alva's are the same as bg?

[jennlin]

Sept 23, 2013 11:43:54 GMT -5 spunbutterfly said:

Sept 23, 2013 8:47:08 GMT -5 jennlin said:

am i missing something? all i see is a link to an alvababy diaper..and the print is something that bg uses? judging by the comments, it's a PUL fabric that BG and alva both decided to use, so bg is upset about it? esp since the fit of alva's are the same as bg?

The print was created specifically by and for BG.

Alva reprinted it without permission and thus opened the floodgates of BG deciding to pursue a lawsuit.

gotcha. does alva print their own PUL? because i notice a lot of their same prints across many of the other inexpensive overseas diapers.

btw, lawsuits/copyright infrigements are not uncommon amongst CD's. there was a huge one that got settled recently...double gussets. only one company....i don't remember which one now, is allowed to have them. which is why in the last few months, there have been a lot of diaper sales bc companies that have double gussets (lots) need to rid their inventory before they get sued.

[jennlin]

oh i ask about alva printing their own PUL bc i assumed it was just some mass manufacturer of PUL that sells to all the companies, and they all buy the same one.

[jennlin]

Sept 23, 2013 11:53:10 GMT -5 spunbutterfly said:

Sept 23, 2013 11:51:42 GMT -5 jennlin said:

gotcha. does alva print their own PUL? because i notice a lot of their same prints across many of the other inexpensive overseas diapers.

btw, lawsuits/copyright infrigements are not uncommon amongst CD's. there was a huge one that got settled recently...double gussets. only one company....i don't remember which one now, is allowed to have them. which is why in the last few months, there have been a lot of diaper sales bc companies that have double gussets (lots) need to rid their inventory before they get sued.

I figured Alva getting sued might trigger some changes out there. Figured people who are using them might want to either stock up or find other places. I hear from a friend who is semi-involved in helping BG out, that they are thinking of going targeting coops that are sourcing them from China as well.

alva has been sued before. i don't know if anything came from it.

why would they go after coops? alva's are not "official" knock-offs...they have their own label on them, and are in no way associated with bg. if they had a BG label or something, i can see why coops could get into trouble..but they're just buying a similar product at the moment. i don't really know what bg could do to alva, either, bc unless they say they are making it like bg, they can't really do anything for making a similar product.

[jennlin]

Sept 23, 2013 11:58:30 GMT -5 spunbutterfly said:

Sept 23, 2013 11:56:37 GMT -5 jennlin said:

alva has been sued before. i don't know if anything came from it.

why would they go after coops? alva's are not "official" knock-offs...they have their own label on them, and are in no way associated with bg. if they had a BG label or something, i can see why coops could get into trouble..but they're just buying a similar product at the moment. i don't really know what bg could do to alva, either, bc unless they say they are making it like bg, they can't really do anything for making a similar product.

I think fabric actually can be copyrighted. And I think in this case it is. So anyone selling it is also technically breaking the law.

At least that's what I'm reading.

To clarify, I don't think this is a case of the diaper pattern or the similarities being the issue, but that Alva copied the print.

gotcha. like i said, i assumed that the print was just some mass manufacturer of PUL, and after they made it for BG, they sold it to other companies, etc. i assumed that's how all diaper companies got their prints, since there are a lot of doubles. whatever the case..i already have all the diapers i need for my boy...so shut down alva, it doesn't bother me

[jennlin]

Sept 23, 2013 12:02:36 GMT -5 jennlin said:

Sept 23, 2013 11:58:30 GMT -5 spunbutterfly said:

I think fabric actually can be copyrighted. And I think in this case it is. So anyone selling it is also technically breaking the law.

At least that's what I'm reading.

To clarify, I don't think this is a case of the diaper pattern or the similarities being the issue, but that Alva copied the print.

oh, and i *think* the loophole with coops is that they're not actually selling any products, they just transfer products, since they don't markup prices, they only charge a handling fee. i think. i'm not positive though...i heard that the reason why coops are so successful is because there are lots of legal loopholes.

edit: as in, if they mark up prices, then they need a business license, charge sales tax, report earnings, etc. but for now, they are just transferring products.

[ashleyp728]

I don't have anything really insightful to add, except that I find this fascinating.
Maybe there will be a mass sale from all of the companies/places selling the items infringing on the patents? Not that I NEED more CDs, but..

[jennlin]

Sept 23, 2013 16:04:24 GMT -5 ashleyp728 said:

I don't have anything really insightful to add, except that I find this fascinating.
Maybe there will be a mass sale from all of the companies/places selling the items infringing on the patents? Not that I NEED more CDs, but..

this is what i'm hoping for