Post by underwaterrhymes on Oct 1, 2013 20:46:07 GMT -5
K is still waking up twice a night - usually around 2 am and 4 am.
He doesn't cry, but he's still in the room with us so I wake when he's just sort of moving around and fussing.
I nurse him for maybe 2 - 5 minutes and then he's out again.
We'll be moving him into his own room here in the next few weeks and that might help with me not waking up when he just moves around. Our pedi told us that - weight wise - we'd be fine giving up the MOTN feed, but I have no idea how to approach this or even if we're ready to approach this.
He's six months and a little over one week old, if that has an effect on your opinion.
Post by daisybuchannan on Oct 1, 2013 20:51:34 GMT -5
See what happens once you move him out.
I realized early on that we were waking C up (and the other way around, too). You might be surprised to see that after he initially wakes up, he could put himself back to sleep.
I eliminated night feeds around 6 months....before that I'd only nurse if it had been at least 3 hrs in between feedings. He was waking up a lot though, and we needed to sleep train in order to get bedtime and motn feeds in order. Before we did any sleep training, it was a looong process to get him back to sleep after eating. It sounds like you don't have that issue though (which is awesome)!
I'll add that I did the 5ish am nurse for a long time...maybe 7 months? Around that time I realized he would fuss a bit, and maybe cry for a minute, but he'd go back to sleep for another 2 hrs. Letting him figure it out eliminated that one quickly.
Post by underwaterrhymes on Oct 1, 2013 20:55:34 GMT -5
daisybuchannan - very helpful, thanks. We want to paint his nursery and add a ceiling fan, and then we'll be moving him in.
Yeah, I do think we might wake one another up sometimes. We've had some rough nights where he's up every hour, but most of the time he'll sleep a 5 or 6 hour stretch to start, and then 2 hours from there on out.
When we first got the Baby Merlin's Magic Sleepsuit, we thought it was so freaking magical, but although he loves it, we haven't managed to accomplish the 7 - 9 hour stretches that we were getting in the first two weeks we had it. Womp womp.
I didn't nurse, and C slept in her crib from about one month on, so my experience is probably really different, but like daisybuchanan said (I'm sure I butchered that tag) we stopped the feedings when she stopped waking us up. For C, it was about four months. She would wake up and rustle a little, sometimes fussing, but would put herself back down. So we just stopped getting up. Though, I should add that by then, she was down to only one bottle at 4 am.
Post by daisybuchannan on Oct 1, 2013 21:02:37 GMT -5
I swear just moving him out was the best thing that happened for all of our sleep. His room is right down the hall (small upstairs) and I also keep the volume off on the monitor. Please don't call CPS.
Seriously though, if cries out randomly and then finds a paci, its over in a minute. If I had the monitor on and went into his room, I'd really wake him up and start the process of getting him back down.
Do you know how long you want to nurse? (I know it isn't up to us). I nursed G til 20 months, I know that's not typical. I weaned her from the one night feeding at 18 mos and then she slowly weaned herself. Regardless of how long you nurse, cutting the night feedings are really the benchmark of them sttn.
You could try dream feeding to get him away from actually waking him up, so that part doesn't just become habit.
I'm not trying to be argumentative at all, but I think it depends on the baby. I'm still nursing (C is just over a year) and he's been sttn since around 7 mo. Sleep training really clicked with him (although it wasn't a 3 night thing like some people claim). I get that it doesn't work well with other babies.
What I found even more important was breaking sleep associations. If you nurse to sleep, the baby will inevitably wake more often and "demand" to nurse.
He cut out the last MOTN nursing a couple of weeks ago at 13 months. He slept in our room until 9 months old, and he was up 3 times to nurse then, but when I moved him to his own room, he went down to 1.
As you can tell, we didn't sleep train. W is/was a cry-puker.
Do you know how long you want to nurse? (I know it isn't up to us). I nursed G til 20 months, I know that's not typical. I weaned her from the one night feeding at 18 mos and then she slowly weaned herself. Regardless of how long you nurse, cutting the night feedings are really the benchmark of them sttn.
You could try dream feeding to get him away from actually waking him up, so that part doesn't just become habit.
I'd like to nurse until 18 months, but am playing it by ear.
One night feeding would be great. Maybe l'll try dream feeding. (Although not tonight since I've had 2 glasses of wine and feel buzzy.)
I'm not trying to be argumentative at all, but I think it depends on the baby. I'm still nursing (C is just over a year) and he's been sttn since around 7 mo. Sleep training really clicked with him (although it wasn't a 3 night thing like some people claim). I get that it doesn't work well with other babies.
What I found even more important was breaking sleep associations. If you nurse to sleep, the baby will inevitably wake more often and "demand" to nurse.
I'm not going to argue with you I'm UWR's post, lol. I know from previous posts that you and I vary greatly on our feelings about this stuff.
*-) I honestly can't remember. Sleep training?
Whatever works for you and your baby is ultimately the best choice.
Freddie was done when he came home at 2 months. He was still waking up for a diaper change, but I broke him of that within a week. Edith quit at 4 months when she started STTN.
ETA: mine were formula fed though, so that probably doesn't help :^)
Post by snipsnsnails on Oct 1, 2013 21:49:48 GMT -5
I weaned V at 1 year, so that was the end of feedings. He still woke up once a night until 14.5 months, when he finally (!!!) STTN. C is 9 months next week and I still nurse her once overnight.
I think around 15-16 months? But they still wanted to comfort nurse when they were sick so it kept happening occasionally until weaning. Eta: I had to do some limited CIO to cut those feedings even at that age.
Post by Mrs. ChanandlerBong on Oct 1, 2013 21:55:15 GMT -5
We stopped them at 9 months. Somewhere in Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child, he mentions that up till 9 months they still need the calories, but after that it becomes habit and not need. We found that it took about 3 days of fussing during that time before they slept through.
I didn't night wean until 13 months. She was down to once a night at that point and it was getting closer and closer to her wake up time so we did a bit of CIO and that was that. If she does wake during the night, I set my timer for 10 minutes. If she's still awake after 10 minutes, one of us will go soothe and put her back down. She rarely fusses for more than 3 minutes. She did wake 2-3 times a night until around 12 months. That sucked. Honestly, I mostly just waited her out. We did sleep train (ferber) at 6 months but that was to get her to go to bed bc she hates being rocked with the fire of a thousand suns and stopped nursing to sleep on her own so we would just have this baby that was awake but tired and look at each other like WTF do we do now?
FWIW, I'm still nursing her at 14.5 months.
ETA: My DD is extremely small for her age (18.5 lbs currently) so I continued to nurse her on demand at night until she really wasn't actively nursing in the MOTN and it was clear that it was just a habit. It probably wasn't necessary bc she is just a small kid but it made me feel better.
K is still waking up twice a night - usually around 2 am and 4 am.
He doesn't cry, but he's still in the room with us so I wake when he's just sort of moving around and fussing.
I nurse him for maybe 2 - 5 minutes and then he's out again.
We'll be moving him into his own room here in the next few weeks and that might help with me not waking up when he just moves around. Our pedi told us that - weight wise - we'd be fine giving up the MOTN feed, but I have no idea how to approach this or even if we're ready to approach this.
He's six months and a little over one week old, if that has an effect on your opinion.
Hi! Lurking from April 2012 I just made a big post on my board because I am in the process of this now.. Feel free to go check it out! The thread is "night weaning". Feel free to PM if you have any questions my DD is 18m and I honestly wish I would have done this sooner. We are also still room sharing due to living circumstances so I get your POV
Post by liverandonions on Oct 1, 2013 22:52:31 GMT -5
We moved J into her crib at 7 weeks and I slept in her room until she started STTN at 10 weeks. I was combo feeding her by that point due to low supply.