Frkls

[tdk2]

frkls

You had some kind of survey before and I thought I should tell you this thought I had.

I think after you give birth, it seems like there's kind of this void w regards to breast feeding. There are all theses appointments for the baby and as long as baby is growing well, they don't really care a lot about supporting whatever feeding methods. You don't really see your ob much and they don't really care as long as your physical parts are in working order. It's kind of like you go from all these appts checking on you to nothing. I think your survey was asking about pediatricians and their bf support.

I think it would be neat if there were someone affiliated w the peds office, an LC or someone with whom you could meet or be referred or what, an as more of standard part of care- not like they were going out of their way or inconvenient. (Thinking this would be good at the peds' because you're there more than your own dr and obs don't really seem to care once the baby is out) I don't know how that would work for billing or pay or whatnot, but just I thought I'd share.

[VeryViolet]

I am not trying to be an ass but my pediatrician does have two LCs who work in the practice. We are working with one and she is amazing. It is a really great resource to have and I am honestly not sure where we would be without her.

When we were looking for a ped this seemed like a great perk. I didn't realize how valuable it was until I had the nipple ruiner on my boob.

[tdk2]

Oct 17, 2013 23:00:04 GMT -5 VeryViolet said:

I am not trying to be an ass but my pediatrician does have two LCs who work in the practice. We are working with one and she is amazing. It is a really great resource to have and I am honestly not sure where we would be without her.

When we were looking for a ped this seemed like a great perk. I didn't realize how valuable it was until I had the nipple ruiner on my boob.

That really rocks! I have not heard of a place having one on staff, but I'm glad some do! I think it was some survey she was doing for a class or out of her own curiosity and I don't know what experiences most ppl had. I had an absolute kickass peds office before and even they didn't have one on staff.

[cleo29]

this makes me sad that this is not common. There is an LC at our pedi's office and they have you meet with her after your first pedi visit with your newborn (if you are breastfeeding). Also, there is an LC at the hospital that comes by to check on new moms and will come by for appointments while you are in the hospital.

Plus our hospital has a weekly BF support group, which is free, where you can go to get support, ask questions, perfect technique, etc. I think every hospital should offer this to women. not only can you get support and help with BF, but you can meet other new moms who are in the same boat as you.

[tdk2]

I'm peeved at myself. J has just slight tongue tied. Dr said he woullllld cut if we insisted but that he really didn't need it. The more I read, the more the checklist of tongue tied fits his latch problem. So. Now I kind of feel like insisting on it but I just don't have the energy to fight it and call and insist on getting in to this practice- one at which we're new and we don't have a lot o ped options because our ins is kind of crappy and so many of them have months to wait.


And Dh isn't a fan of snipping it if dr doesn't think it's necessary. I felt like that too while we were there and deferring to his experience but honestly, the list of things I read last night of signs offer interfering really match the things I've been saying since day 1 (clicking noise, gives up in deep latch and pushes out to just nipple, etc etc). So. Last night I was all gung ho about calling this morning but now I'm feeling chicken

His prob wouldn't matter if his mom had nipples instead of flat ones.

Doesn't help I'm so emotional lately and scared I'll cry on the phone. So unlike me.

[tdk2]

(And I didn't want to insist on a procedure if it truly was unnecessary but the more we work on feeding, the more my gut tells me it would help)

[jssymom14]

tdk2 please call and get it looked at and taken care of if possible! How awesome if that is a small problem with breastfeeding and can be solved fairly easy. You are doing what's best for both you and the baby even thinking it needs to be looked at and fixed, awesome mama!

[AHappierHour]

Our hospital has a clinic that is free and they have LC's and classes for all new moms. They recommend all new moms go they next day after they get discharged and do weighed feeding and continue to go till your comfortable BF'ing

[tdk2]

I called.
The dr still is like, well we talked about it and it's prob bit the issue, blah blah but we'll have you in and meet w drs and nurse who works w lactation.

So. Maybe they have an LC? Doesn't sound like totally.

Appt on Monday. I'll stand my ground. From what I've read, it's pretty painless, one drop of blood, and like zero recovery. If there's a good chance it could help, I need them to do it.
I was trying not to impose a procedure just for the chance of it working if odds were slim it effected the feeding. However, the more I read, the more it fits his feeding behaviors.

I think I need to go in w a list though to make my case. I'm seeing a resident (I think she's a resident) but her supervising dr seemed to be willing to do it if I insisted but I didn't insist (and am kicking myself for that) I think seeing the results of circumcision was hard enough for Dh and myself that we were reticent to have any other body parts snipped if not needed.

[tdk2]

Oct 18, 2013 9:09:12 GMT -5 AHappierHour said:

Our hospital has a clinic that is free and they have LC's and classes for all new moms. They recommend all new moms go they next day after they get discharged and do weighed feeding and continue to go till your comfortable BF'ing

That's neat!

I'm still in touch w the LC nurse, and had done bf classes prior to birth.

I think it's just hard to make an extra appt when you're trying to balance feeding and pumping and everything when you get extra struggles w it. It's like any step I would take that way was to make my life easier, even though what I was doing was completing the main mission- feeding our kid.


I also think that's great they shared the info w you, the costs, etc and made it part of the expected routine.

[tdk2]

Oct 18, 2013 8:29:46 GMT -5 frkls said:

Oct 18, 2013 8:14:29 GMT -5 tdk2 said:

I'm peeved at myself. J has just slight tongue tied. Dr said he woullllld cut if we insisted but that he really didn't need it. The more I read, the more the checklist of tongue tied fits his latch problem. So. Now I kind of feel like insisting on it but I just don't have the energy to fight it and call and insist on getting in to this practice- one at which we're new and we don't have a lot o ped options because our ins is kind of crappy and so many of them have months to wait.


And Dh isn't a fan of snipping it if dr doesn't think it's necessary. I felt like that too while we were there and deferring to his experience but honestly, the list of things I read last night of signs offer interfering really match the things I've been saying since day 1 (clicking noise, gives up in deep latch and pushes out to just nipple, etc etc). So. Last night I was all gung ho about calling this morning but now I'm feeling chicken

His prob wouldn't matter if his mom had nipples instead of flat ones.

Doesn't help I'm so emotional lately and scared I'll cry on the phone. So unlike me.

are you in pain because of his latch?  if you're uncomfortable, then i think it would be totally worth it.  we learned about the procedure last week and it's really super easy. 

Yes at times. Sometimes he gets it deep enough but rarely. He makes the clicking sound I read mentioned, even when it's a good, non-painful latch. Usually he pushes it out to go for a shallower "latch". I think I've felt clogged ducts starting already too, which is mentioned in some things that I've read.

He WANTS to get it and loves when he does but it's hard on him too and he gets frustrated.

Btw, some nurses mentioned that perhaps the pre-eclampsia last time time also made it harder for c to latch (plus my absolutely flat nipples which are only slightly more drawn out this time). They mentioned how all the extra fluids at that point may have made it even harder for her tonget purchase.

Don't know the truth behind that, but maybe something to consider in your latch assistance arsenal.

[tdk2]

Background for those who don't know:

I nursed and pumped for an entire year w c. Well, nursed til she was done w it around 9 months pumped full year.

We had to use a nipple shield the whole time due to flat nipples. With that, you have to continue pumping because baby can't latch deep enough to stimulate milk prod.

I pumped over 1000 hours, 6 times a day (more than that for first 3 months).

I'm dedicated and will do it if necessary (mentally committed to 6 months this time w 2 kids to chase) however, I'm doing everything in my power these first few weeks to see if I can get him latching instead. Avoiding nipple shield this time because we have witnessed him getting an Excellent latch a few times, so it IS physically possible btwn me and him. It just doesn't happen enough. Once I start the nipple shield I'm not sure we can wean him from it and its kind of a selfish reason- that was a hellishly hard way to breast feed.

I reduce pumping the days he latches at times, but I'm still pumping as needed. I kind of overproduce anyway (donated gallons of milk both here and in Australia last time). So, I'm balancing not making toooooo much milk but also keeping the supply available for on demand by the hungry kid. (He is a voracious feeder, omg!) On a bright note, how many moms have a freezer stash started first week? (Not much, just 5-6 100ml freezer bags so far beyond what were using)

I do massage before trying to get him on, I pre-pump to soften, and a bunch of those little things to try to make it work

[tdk2]

Oct 18, 2013 11:26:34 GMT -5 tulips said:

tdk2

One of my nipples is flat and I had a lot of luck using the Lansinoh Latch Assist when he was younger to help draw it out. www.amazon.com/Lansinoh-LANSINOH294983-Latchassist-Nipple-Everter/dp/B00112EIWW

Not sure if you've tried a product like that or not.

bought one last time. I'll pull it out again.

Lol, I may have every gadget out there (still appreciate recs as I am sure I haven't seen them all)

You'd think I would have pulled out the bins of bf-ing supplies pre-baby. I think I was in denial and thought it would just work...