I'm in a world of hurt. I woke up thinking it was Friday.
Both kids got dx with a cold yesterday, so it's nothing serious, just annoying. Bjl seems better right now...we have only given her the RX twice, but she's already not congested....I hope this keeps up!! Boy is in the "wait and see" zone.
I'm pretty much starving myself each day, and my milk supply is starting to hurt. Being Chinese and not eating soy is impossible. Nothing satisfies me so I just avoid eating and it sucks. I pump when bjl is at grandmas, and that supply is going down...I'm still confident there's enough for boy, but it's depressing to see numbers go down. I will need to stRt doing supplements and all that fun stuff...and EAT. Ugh. Nothing to eat.
Happy Tuesday! I'm starving and debating whether it's too early to eat first lunch. G STTN for the first time EVER two nights ago, but didn't last night. I'm still hoping she's moving in that direction, though.
jennlin, you have to eat! Google pointed me to coconut aminos as a substitute for soy sauce. coconutsecret.com/aminos2.html Have you tried something like that? I can't imagine trying to cook in an entirely different way either. Nuts are relatively easy for me to leave out (though it makes pre-prepared foods difficult) but soy sauce is in EVERY Chinese recipe I can think of.
I think I have turned the puke corner to gag land and I really prefer it here. I haven't thrown up in 5 days, I'm just pretty gaggy at night instead of pukey. Score! Also people are starting to comment that I look pregnant so I'll take it though if you didn't know you would just think I am fat (fatter).
shevacc coconut aminos do not taste good lol. I bought an expensive (well, not really, but for the size) bottle of it and it does not do the trick. It tastes sweet and a little bit sour. Are you familiar with black vinegar? It tastes like that, but a little less sour.
@jennuinne doughnuts are made with milk and sometimes butter
I'm really trying to eat!! I made my own taco seasoning the other day and I had taco salad for brunch. As much as I love tacos, I can't eat like this forever! The plan for tonight is steak and potatoes....still not Chinese. I ate rice and Chinese veggies all weekend and that's it...which...works, but there's no meat in it...and I'm a meat eater nom nom nom. I can cook my own food, but anything that's prepared at all (soup stock, sauces, annnnything at the Chinese grocery stores) has soy.
Whine, vent, cry. Sorry I've been unloading on you guys!! My life has been super exhausting/frustrating lately. Did you know mayonnaise has soy???!!!
I'm sorry nothing is ever simple, jennlin. Do pot stickers have soy in them before you add sauce? You can do grilled meat and make your own marinades. I'm hoping Spun is right that maybe coconut aminos would be better in a marinade?
I'm sorry nothing is ever simple, jennlin. Do pot stickers have soy in them before you add sauce? You can do grilled meat and make your own marinades. I'm hoping Spun is right that maybe coconut aminos would be better in a marinade?
Yup. Premade pot stickers, won tons, and egg rolls (these were always my lazy-day cheats) all have soy mixed into the meats.
I'm hoping spunbutterfly is right too! Everything I'm finding right now with paleo Chinese says to either use the coconut aminos (which I haven't been a fan of), avoid Chinese food altogether, or ignore the fact that soy sauce has soy in it.... I already tried to pretend that the soy in soy sauce wasn't enough to affect him, but I was very wrong.
I'm sorry nothing is ever simple, jennlin. Do pot stickers have soy in them before you add sauce? You can do grilled meat and make your own marinades. I'm hoping Spun is right that maybe coconut aminos would be better in a marinade?
Yup. Premade pot stickers, won tons, and egg rolls (these were always my lazy-day cheats) all have soy mixed into the meats.
I'm hoping spunbutterfly is right too! Everything I'm finding right now with paleo Chinese says to either use the coconut aminos (which I haven't been a fan of), avoid Chinese food altogether, or ignore the fact that soy sauce has soy in it.... I already tried to pretend that the soy in soy sauce wasn't enough to affect him, but I was very wrong.
I just checked our freezer for you and the mini chicken egg rolls we get from Costco don't have soy or dairy (wheat and eggs, but I think you said eggs are ok?). They're not the greatest, but it's something. And the Filipino brand of fish sauce that we buy (Pufina Patis) has no soy in it either, so you could use that for some things. I'm guessing you could find an equivalent Chinese brand with no soy too. Obviously things like meat ravioli/pastas and pirogues would be ok, most sandwiches, a lot of Thai and Indian recipes. Some of the women on my BMB who deal with MSPI also use Daiya (fake cheese) for things like enchiladas or other recipes where cheese is mixed into things.
Sorry jennlin soy is in everything. That's eventually why I switched to formula the first time. I was hardly eating anything with no dairy or soy. I lost so much weight and already had post partem depression and the food factor wAsnt helping anything. I fully understand and sympathize with you
shevacc and @lauralynne you two are so sweet! I guess I will pick some costco egg rolls next time! I've been using fish sauce (the one I use is also soy free) and oyster sauce to season my food but it's about a billion times more expensive than soy...it sorta works, but it's frustrating!
LL, it's half about the cooking, half about the lack of appetizing foods. I can eat whole foods all day safely, but it's not part of my normal diet. I normally cook with a lot of Chinese sauces (I'll show you my pantry....don't know the names), and they're all soy based. And if I want a cheat-day, everything has soy. The soup base I normally use has soy (although I found one this weekend that does not). I've also been using maggi seasoning, which tastes kinda like soy, but has msg, so I feel super guilty using it and I avoid it.
I ate sandwiches (and only sandwiches) for 2 days bc of convenience (family was over, brought restaurant food over), and boy reacted big time...turns out my mayo had soy in it.
jamer, the price of formula terrifies me! And the special kind, too! I'm too stubborn to give up on bf. At what point did you switch?
spunbutterfly, you said Thor grew out of his at 6 mos...how did you check? Bjl was still reacting at about 17mos, but she had something with cheese in it the other day by accident an did not react, so I'm wondering how to sneak it back in to test.
jennlin, there are multiple April 2012 mamas who are still nursing their MSPI babies 21 months later so they must've figured out foods to eat. Do you want me to ask them for some additional ideas and advice for you? I remember hearing about some of the babies growing out of their intolerance and others not -- I think most of the moms just ate a little either soy or dairy and waited to see what happened in order to "check" every so often.
I switched at 4 1/2 months. I know its not that long but i was so miserable and starving. The formula is super pricey so i really understand not switching! Tried to introduce again a couple times but she was ok at 9 months without reaction to both.
jennlin, there are multiple April 2012 mamas who are still nursing their MSPI babies 21 months later so they must've figured out foods to eat. Do you want me to ask them for some additional ideas and advice for you? I remember hearing about some of the babies growing out of their intolerance and others not -- I think most of the moms just ate a little either soy or dairy and waited to see what happened in order to "check" every so often.
Thank tou, but my biggest issue is Chinese food! I can eat steak, potatoes, hamburgers easy, but my stir frys and chow mein dishes are haunting me! Are there Chinese mspi mamas on the board?
spunbutterfly she had a cream cheese sauce...it wasn't a lot, but she was dipping in it before I realized...I'm tempted to just give her a slice if cheese and see what happens, but I don't want her to cry either
spunbutterfly she had a cream cheese sauce...it wasn't a lot, but she was dipping in it before I realized...I'm tempted to just give her a slice if cheese and see what happens, but I don't want her to cry either
You might as well try if she already tried something and didn't react.
I ate a lot of East Asian and Thai food. I can't imagine soy intolerances and eating Asian too though.
Yup Thai food is my other cheat day food. If I'm too tired, I almost always get thai...which used to be 2-3 times a month.
I'm sorry your having a hard time Jennlin I think my biggest problem is also eating and getting in enough to keep supply up. We don't have much for easy to grab foods so I always have to actually think about it and put something together. I also think J might have slight issues with dairy but i'm still working on trying to figure it out.
In the mean time I have been busy with our bathroom remodel. We are in the home stretch I think and I'm so excited to get moved on to starting the spare room so we can get M moved in.
jennlin, no Chinese MSPI mamas, but they did have 2 recipes for soy free sauce. Maybe one of them will be tolerably close enough to the real thing for you to use, or close enough to tweak.