Is there such a thing as the 4.75 month wakeful?

[cville]

I'm DYINNNNNNGGGG.  O had the whole 4 month wakeful thing for a week, went back to sleeping normally (for him), which is 9-6 (don't hate me).

But then last week he's decided sleep is for CHUMPS and LOSERS and he wakes up at midnight and at 3 or 4.  The midnight waking, he usually just wants some soothing and a pacifier and goes back to sleep.  The 3 or 4 waking is a crapshoot.  Sometimes he decides he's up FOR THE DAY and he's all "let's play!" and smiles and giggles so long as I engage him but if I try to do the no eye contact soothe pat pat go to sleep he freaks out and cries.  I want to die.  I'm so fucking tired. 

Help.  Send coffee.

[DotAndBuzz]

[chickenlittle]

DS always pulled shit like that during a wonder week (or weeks, which was often the case). I know some people think they're bs and babies do what they want, but I found them to be pretty right on whenever he was doing something that made me pull my hair out.

[missyny]

No engaging. No picking up at night. Nooone of that bullshite!
♥
It is .pat pat...shh shhhh...pat pat...magic mama fingers tickle around the face magic...walk out...let cry for 3long nightmare mins. Repeat if necessary.

[cville]

What's a wonder week? My daughter never tortured me like this. I literally don't have any experience with shitty sleepers. I am thisclose to regretting a second! Ha.

[cville]

Mar 6, 2014 10:28:31 GMT -5 missyny said:

No engaging. No picking up at night. Nooone of that bullshite!
♥
It is .pat pat...shh shhhh...pat pat...magic mama fingers tickle around the face magic...walk out...let cry for 3long nightmare mins. Repeat if necessary.

MISSY, I TRIED.  I'm telling you.  After an hour, my arm was falling off and I was asleep on my feet so I brought him into bed with me. 

Don't tell me to try longer.  /whimpers

[tdk2]

There MUST be. We're in the same boat this week omg. Wtmf?

[chickenlittle]

Mar 6, 2014 10:32:24 GMT -5 cville said:

What's a wonder week? My daughter never tortured me like this. I literally don't have any experience with shitty sleepers. I am thisclose to regretting a second! Ha.

www.mybabysleepguide.com/2012/07/how-do-i-handle-sleep-during-wonder.html

[chickenlittle]

Mar 6, 2014 10:32:24 GMT -5 cville said:

What's a wonder week? My daughter never tortured me like this. I literally don't have any experience with shitty sleepers. I am thisclose to regretting a second! Ha.

www.mybabysleepguide.com/2012/07/how-do-i-handle-sleep-during-wonder.html

[littlepeanut]

My kiddo completely changed his sleep patterns after the 4 MW. It is better at almost 6 months, but it is still not what it was. I have no advice other than do what you need to in order to get a little sleep.

[tdk2]

I have been guessing that ours just doesn't want to sleep because he's discovering new stuff like crazy this week. He's trying to crawl and sitting and playing with more toys and all he wants to do is play. He's been sleeping like crap. C would go through some crap sleep right before major new developments/awareness.


This week, I found myself (slightly)wishing doping a kid to sleep wasn't bad.

And he's still smiley but he's got a little bit of cranky at times because he NEEDS SLEEP too. I liked my perpetually smiley guy. I shouldn't bitch because that's still 90% of the time but I'm all flustered when he gets cranky. Not used to it. (Spoiled, I know)

[sewpinkgal]

No words of advice since J was a crap sleeper from birth-7m, but lots of sympathy. And a vat of coffee.

[daisybuchannan]

I feel like there's something written about every age imaginable with regard to crappy sleep so we dont off ourselves.

My 17 month old randomly woke up screaming 3 times last night- and yesterday we started seriously talking about try for number 2. It was like an ominous warming of what's to come.

[spwspw]

I think there's an every month wakeful until they become teenagers, then of course comes the fun of waking their lazy asses up since they'll want to sleep until noon to make up for all the sleep they didn't get as babies/toddlers.

[Deleted]

I'd just feed him at midnight and then maybe he won't wake at 4? (Shrug) They're fickle little despots.

[missyny]

Mar 6, 2014 10:36:43 GMT -5 cville said:

Mar 6, 2014 10:28:31 GMT -5 missyny said:

No engaging. No picking up at night. Nooone of that bullshite!
♥
It is .pat pat...shh shhhh...pat pat...magic mama fingers tickle around the face magic...walk out...let cry for 3long nightmare mins. Repeat if necessary.

MISSY, I TRIED.  I'm telling you.  After
an hour, my arm was falling off and I was asleep on my feet so I brought him into bed with me. 

Don't tell me to try longer.  /
whimpers

Ohh girlfriend. In bed with you???
Does your H ever help you middle of night? He needs to. I totally get how effing terrible it is sleeping standing over the crib with one arm in. Ox . I do. It is hell. But baby O is going to keep giving you horrible nights.
Can you up his feeding? Keeping lights off when you go in, right? Whispering? How about those musical nightlight toys? (Glow worm things) my son loved that and learned to entertain himself from 3am-4am with it when he was a baby. I mean, we were strict! Even diaper changes were IN crib, so that they never expected to get picked up. It was hard, but not for very long.
My h did alternate/help me, though. I couldnt imagine doing myself.

Keep fighting sister!!!

[VeryViolet]

I couldn't actually read more than just the title for fear I would cry but I think the answer is yes, yes there is. DS is going to be 5 mos on Saturday and this past week or so has been miserable, up a bunch and oh yes 4am is a fabulous fucking time to be up for the day. I almost fell asleep in a meeting today. I am so tired.

[cville]

Mar 6, 2014 14:22:17 GMT -5 missyny said:

Mar 6, 2014 10:36:43 GMT -5 cville said:

MISSY, I TRIED.  I'm telling you.  After
an hour, my arm was falling off and I was asleep on my feet so I brought him into bed with me. 

Don't tell me to try longer.  /
whimpers

Ohh girlfriend. In bed with you???
Does your H ever help you middle of night? He needs to. I totally get how effing terrible it is sleeping standing over the crib with one arm in. Ox . I do. It is hell. But baby O is going to keep giving you horrible nights.
Can you up his feeding? Keeping lights off when you go in, right? Whispering? How about those musical nightlight toys? (Glow worm things) my son loved that and learned to entertain himself from 3am-4am with it when he was a baby. I mean, we were strict! Even diaper changes were IN crib, so that they never expected to get picked up. It was hard, but not for very long.
My h did alternate/help me, though. I couldnt imagine doing myself.

Keep fighting sister!!!

You and me?  We're in a fight!

I have a threshold!  He can't come in until after 4:45am, following soothing attempts. He gets frantic at a certain point and he's still so little I don't think he's capable of self-soothing when he's hysterical.  We have added a mini-bottle before bed (I'm still nursing) and that's helped.

The husband and I do switch off nights.  Tonight is my night off.  YES!!!

[SKP82]

Is he distracted when he's nursing? I've heard that being one of the reasons for the 4MW. they are so interested in their surroundings that they get distracted nursing and make up for the milk they didn't get at night. I second Stella's - can you give him a bottle or feed him when he wakes up the first time?

[missyny]

Aww...I know he's still little. Poor bubbie. I know it is terrible. Im glad to hear you have tonight off! Wahoooo!!!!

Oxo. We arent in a fight. Im just trying to help you get sleep.

[missyny]

Oh! "Keep fighting sister" !??

I meant, keep fighting through the hard nights. Youll get through it.