WORK UPDATE

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so I met with HR this am. Here is what I was told.

They are not hiring anyone else to do the woman's job that was let go and I will keep overseeing all the reps.

My boss is working on getting me an increase and I will get it on April 1st when all the other increases are given out.  It will not be retro.  (THIS ENRAGES ME).  And it won't be much.  She didn't have a dollar amount but gave me a range.  its tiny. 

she went on to say that my boss thinks I am amazing, she speaks very highly about me etc and I said " I appreciate her saying that, and that confirms that I am worth much more than this increase.  When a final amount is decided upon by <my employer> I would like to have a meeting with my boss and hr to discuss it. " 

I am livid.  I got double the work, double the headaches and this increase is literally not even going to be felt in my check. 

I feel duped.  and I knew this.. but its hard when its in my face 

UPDATE: got my dollar amount. I got bumped up 2,000 a year.  2k.  I wont' even feel that. And it goes into effect on May 1st not June 1st and is not retro.  My boss in FLA was even like "I really hope you stick it out here because I think you are amazing. "

[takeonyou]

I'm glad you said something. Polish up that resume.

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[firedancer49]

I'm so sorry. Seems like they should have thought about this better before. Hire only one new person and see if they can handle the entire thing and if not, at that point hire someone additional... not the way they went about it.

I'm so sorry.

[Jalapeñomel]

[EmilieMadison]

I'm so sorry. That is absolutely horrible. They clearly had enough budgeted initially for two positions, and they think you'll just accept what they're giving you. I suppose it could be risky, but I would absolutely meet with whomever has the authority to increase your pay and tell them what you want. 

ETA: The worst that can happen is they say no. Then you look for a new job immediately. But you do have an advantage here. If you are willing (and able) to leave if they refuse, then they will have to interview, hire, and train someone new- and they KNOW that they probably wont be able to pay a new person what they're paying you for all of the responsibility they've handed you. So be firm and tell them what you deserve (30% increase? whatever you deem acceptable). 

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I'm sorry.

[jreeds]

I'm sorry. That sucks

[Deleted]

Yes I am going to polish my resume for sure. but there isn't a whole ton out there right now. I agree @booby at least I can get a paycheck while I am looking.

[Deleted]

Sloan- is this increasing the hours you are working? What is market pay for doing this level of work? Was this job always done by two people, or just done by two people while they figured out which of you was better?

I understand this frustrates you, but when you have only been doing a job for 3 months it is not unusual to have your workload recalibrated. Obviously, your employers have mishandled this, and not managed your expectations appropriately, but I keep coming back to thinking it is not unreasonable to expect you to be busy all day unless you are working extra hours. Especially when the workload increased after just three months. Now may be too late, it sounds like you just want out, but it might be worth trying to see this from a different perspective.

[pantsparty]

Unfortunately because this wasn't addressed up front this is the situation. It seems like having the other employee was almost a "test" for the company, and they decided they were paying too much for two people to do what you're now doing.

A good company would have come to you and said they want you to take over X responsibilities with $X pay raise. The fact that you have had to be the one chasing them down and fighting for what seems to be a minuscule raise is BS. I would be looking.

Have your hours increased with your new responsibilities?

[sergey]

The company I used to work for pulled this shit constantly. So frustrating

[madringal]

Ugh, that stinks. I am sorry. But to be honest, it sounds like just about every other industry right now, you lose people via attrition and don't replace them. Doesn't make it suck any less, unfortunately.

[Deleted]

That is bullshit. Start applying elsewhere now. What would happen if you request to have some/most of the new work delegated elsewhere? I don't see how they can fire you, if they are already a person down. Use that to your advantage. Tell them now that you were given the work with the expectation of an increase in pay and that the amount you are saving them in wages for old coworker more than makes up for the difference in the pay increase you are wanting.

I know you carry the benefits, but they are obviously going to walk all over you if you don't stand up for yourself. Show them what you are doing in your job now vs what you were hired to do. Maybe the people you are talking to really don't know (other than your boss, who is probably patting herself on the back).

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Mar 7, 2014 10:02:51 GMT -5 elle said:

Sloan- is this increasing the hours you are working? What is market pay for doing this level of work? Was this job always done by two people, or just done by two people while they figured out which of you was better?

I understand this frustrates you, but when you have only been doing a job for 3 months it is not unusual to have your workload recalibrated. Obviously, your employers have mishandled this, and not managed your expectations appropriately, but I keep coming back to thinking it is not unreasonable to expect you to be busy all day unless you are working extra hours. Especially when the workload increased after just three months. Now may be too late, it sounds like you just want out, but it might be worth trying to see this from a different perspective.

Not increasing the hours. I still work a reg 40 hour work week (or so they say) Market pay is higher by about 10k to start. This position was new. they hired two of us to do it and the other person wasn't very good. she complained a lot and made waves. She was let go in her probation period. I def can handle the recalibrated workload. What I am miffed about is that they said I would get an increase.  Its been several weeks and now I won't get an increase (and a tiny one at that) until April 1st. I feel that it should be retro to when I took over all the reps.   

I agree I should be busy all day. But this is also sales and it ebbs and flows. One rep may need 100% attention one week and 9 others are put on the backburner. Its a lot. Again I can handle it. they brought up the money. 

I actually don't want out persay. I like the job enough, I am just disheartened by the way they operate.  And its not just me.  We have a tradeshow manager leaving and instead of hiring someone to do her job they are trying to farm out her responsibilities to three other people who are already overworked.  They are drastically understaffed and like to run this way. 

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Mar 7, 2014 10:02:51 GMT -5 elle said:

Sloan- is this increasing the hours you are working? What is market pay for doing this level of work? Was this job always done by two people, or just done by two people while they figured out which of you was better?

I understand this frustrates you, but when you have only been doing a job for 3 months it is not unusual to have your workload recalibrated. Obviously, your employers have mishandled this, and not managed your expectations appropriately, but I keep coming back to thinking it is not unreasonable to expect you to be busy all day unless you are working extra hours. Especially when the workload increased after just three months. Now may be too late, it sounds like you just want out, but it might be worth trying to see this from a different perspective.

This is what I was thinking honestly. Unless you're going from working 40 hours a week to 80 hours a week, they aren't going to see it as you doing 2 jobs/double the work. If your hours are going to drastically increase that's another story.

I think this kind of thing happens all the time - someone leaves and their position isn't replaced. At my company often that just means the position that was budgeted for is reclassified/assigned to another area that needs it more. 

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Mar 7, 2014 10:12:52 GMT -5 @sloanpeterson said:

Mar 7, 2014 10:02:51 GMT -5 elle said:

Sloan- is this increasing the hours you are working? What is market pay for doing this level of work? Was this job always done by two people, or just done by two people while they figured out which of you was better?

I understand this frustrates you, but when you have only been doing a job for 3 months it is not unusual to have your workload recalibrated. Obviously, your employers have mishandled this, and not managed your expectations appropriately, but I keep coming back to thinking it is not unreasonable to expect you to be busy all day unless you are working extra hours. Especially when the workload increased after just three months. Now may be too late, it sounds like you just want out, but it might be worth trying to see this from a different perspective.

Not increasing the hours. I still work a reg 40 hour work week (or so they say) Market pay is higher by about 10k to start. This position was new. they hired two of us to do it and the other person wasn't very good. she complained a lot and made waves. She was let go in her probation period. I def can handle the recalibrated workload. What I am miffed about is that they said I would get an increase.  Its been several weeks and now I won't get an increase (and a tiny one at that) until April 1st. I feel that it should be retro to when I took over all the reps.   

I agree I should be busy all day. But this is also sales and it ebbs and flows. One rep may need 100% attention one week and 9 others are put on the backburner. Its a lot. Again I can handle it. they brought up the money. 

I actually don't want out persay. I like the job enough, I am just disheartened by the way they operate.  And its not just me.  We have a tradeshow manager leaving and instead of hiring someone to do her job they are trying to farm out her responsibilities to three other people who are already overworked.  They are drastically understaffed and like to run this way. 

Well, you are right it is BS it is not retroactive. Especially since it sounds like they made comments indicating it would be. I truly do not feel it was unreasonable to increase your workload without a huge pay bump - because honestly, it sounds like you were not busy enough earlier if you can do twice the work in a 40 hour week, and it was only after 3 months - but the I situation was badly mishandled and that would make me want out. Not the extra work. The bungled expectations and misstatements. I would look. It sounds like it is systemic.

[pittsmcgee]

I am so fucking pissed off for you. I'm sorry they're such dillholes

[gullterre15]

Boo to the tiny increase. I hope you can let your hr know you would like to negotiate at some point....maybe agree on a certain goal for a certain period of time and then get increases at certain intervals if you meet those goals?

[sparkythelawyer]

This sucks, and is something they have been working really hard to change on a cultural level at my place too. Yes, because you need your job, you will figure out how to fit 80# of crap in a 40# bag, but you had enough to do before. They just decided they don't want to spend the money to make sure they are adequately staffed, so they overwhelm and push more and more on the people they have.

They've shown you in your three short month that they do not necessarily believe in supporting their employees by how they have treated you and this other co-worker. If you can find something elsewhere doing what you are doing now, I would consider looking.

[leeann]

If they can't afford a true increase, might they offer a one-time spot bonus or something to bridge you until they can consider a better increase for you?

It's one of those things where employers are squeezing budgets and if they can get more work out of you and not backfill old CW's job, they're going to try to do so for as little as possible.

Sorry, Sloan