This was so key to the success of the show. Beautifully put.
I think what was great (and speaks again to the character development) was that you could feel compassion for him *while* also sort of hating his guts. Real people aren't so one-dimensional, and portraying that is a huge feat IMO.
Post by rockpaperscissors on Apr 4, 2014 11:58:22 GMT -5
This was the first and I think only series finale that I ever watched that I felt 100% satisfied by the ending. I actually gave a contented sigh to my H because we were so fearful.
I couldn't like Mike. I don't understand the Mike love.
And I always loved Hank so much! Why do some of you hate him?
Mike, while being a criminal, had an admirable morality about him, as warped as that may sound. He was extremely loyal and trustworthy. He cared deeply about people who needed his care (e.g., his granddaughter and Jesse).
Hank was brash, crass, and just not my cup of tea. As crazy as this is going to sound, there was something honorable about the deep family ties that all the bad guys had -- the Salamancas, the Aryan Nation, and Mike and his granddaughter. Hank didn't have that. Once he knew that Walter was Heisenberg, it never even crossed his mind to keep quiet about it.
If you can't count on family to protect you, what do you have left?
It is no wonder that Walter considered Jesse his family. At the end, even after all that had transpired, it was only Jesse who had a modicum of love for Walter. The watch Jesse gave Walter for his birthday -- when nobody else gave Walter a damn thing -- was so meaningful.
And that's why I love Mike and hate Hank (and all of Walter's family).
I mean, seriously. Even slimy Saul was treated Walter better than Walter's own flesh and blood.
Yes!!
I couldn't understand the hatred that Walt Jr had towards Walter.
Wasn't Walter done with the business by the time Hank figured out that he was Heisenberg?
Okay, I just read the whole thread and I could not agree more with your assessment of, and feelings toward, each of the characters. I didn't think I could love you any more, but it just happened. (heart)
This was the first and I think only series finale that I ever watched that I felt 100% satisfied by the ending. I actually gave a contented sigh to my H because we were so fearful.
I just remember Jesse peeling off into the distance, and I looked at H and said something like, "welp, I'm sure he's going to go off and have a totally normal, not-forever-fucked-up existence.."
This was the first and I think only series finale that I ever watched that I felt 100% satisfied by the ending. I actually gave a contented sigh to my H because we were so fearful.
I just remember Jesse peeling off into the distance, and I looked at H and said something like, "welp, I'm sure he's going to go off and have a totally normal, not-forever-fucked-up existence.."
LOL well yeah there's that. Chances are after the gunfire there, he didn't make it far.
Also, confession: I don't remember Walt dying. lol.
It was implied, not explicitly shown.
I really don't remember a lot of the details of the finale. I know he went to their little fort, but can't remember why (to get Jesse? Did he know Jesse was there or was that a coincidence..?) and at some point there was a shoot-out and he fired off his mega-awesome trunk cannon jobber. I'm assuming somewhere between that and when Jesse drives away, he gets shot. lol. Details, shmetails.
Miso, I was confused by how many seasons there were, too! But I did figure it out before the end
I was sadder when hank and Mike died than when Walt did. Bryan Cranston did such a good job though - any time he got sincerely emotional/teary, my heart softened toward him again.
Aaron Paul was perfection as Jesse.
I just watched the last few episodes last weekend and the one where Walt takes holly killed me. The faces that she made at the fireman who found her, omg. Give that baby an Emmy!
Same. I think it was probably because Walt died with his true love.
ETA I especially loved the song that played when he died (Baby Blue). The lyrics were perfect.
"Guess I got what I deserve Kept you waiting there, too long my love All that time, without a word Didn't know you'd think, that I'd forget, or I'd regret
The special love I have for you My baby blue"
Chills! I didn't know those were the words, they fit so freaking perfectly to this story.
I liked Sykler from the beginning. Same for Flynn/Walt Jr. I think they both reacted like normal people would to Walt's bullshit.
This is where I am. Walter Jr. was a typical teenager. It was sad to see him be a total dick to his mom, but that's how she wanted things to be during the separation.
But he was funny, he had a good heart. He was endearing.
Oh damn, you're right I think .Which is supposed to be a show about everything before all of this, right? Boo.
Yes, that's what I remember reading. A spinoff with Jesse would have been awesome. Maybe he'll have an appearance, he was Jesse's lawyer before all the Heisenberg madness, wasn't he?
I felt like Skyler was always the antagonist to Walt. First he has to keep secrets from her, then he has to straight up lie to her, then she finally finds out and has that dumb affair, and gives away the money, and ugh. I get why she did all of it, but she always felt like one more wrinkle in Walt's life, and I was rooting for Walt.
ETA: Mike's death was the second most devastating scene to me, only because it was less of a surprise to me than Hank's death. I loved Mike so much.
im kinda wondering how you think he should have told her about the meth making and when. i think walt was so booksmart (even hank said this before he was killed) that he miscalculated how much he would have to make and how long. IF he could have just supplied combo and badger and jesse and skinny pete and made his 700k in a month or so, there would have been no need to tell her. or if he had died in six months. he might have been able to hold it all together before he died and the family would have had all the money and everyone would have been ok.
but for as badass as walt was, he miscalculated a hell of a lot and things turned to shit in the end.
I don't think it was so much that he miscalculated. I think that Skyler being such a hard ass and basically emasculating him drove him to enjoy the power he had. I think that's why they made Skyler such an unlikeable character, so that they could show the effect that had on Walt whether he realized it was happening or not.
Oh, I fucking loved Saul, lol. And yes, the finale was perfection. I am so in love with this show, and I was so afraid the finale would disappoint, but it was just beautiful. The scene between Walt and Skylar is one of my favorites in the whole series.
Miso, I was confused by how many seasons there were, too! But I did figure it out before the end
I was sadder when hank and Mike died than when Walt did. Bryan Cranston did such a good job though - any time he got sincerely emotional/teary, my heart softened toward him again.
Aaron Paul was perfection as Jesse.
I just watched the last few episodes last weekend and the one where Walt takes holly killed me. The faces that she made at the fireman who found her, omg. Give that baby an Emmy!
Same. I think it was probably because Walt died with his true love.
ETA I especially loved the song that played when he died (Baby Blue). The lyrics were perfect.
"Guess I got what I deserve Kept you waiting there, too long my love All that time, without a word Didn't know you'd think, that I'd forget, or I'd regret
The special love I have for you My baby blue"
That was one of my favorite parts of the series. The song, the ending, everything was just perfect.
if you really want to go down the rabbit hole, there are pages and pages dedicated to the use of color on the show and what it means. think tom and lorenzo with mad men costumes but with background and object colors.
Yes! I looked into this when I noticed Marie's obsession with purple. I didn't know what it meant but I knew there had to be something behind it. There was SO MUCH everywhere - I didn't notice it until after hank got shot and was recuperating at home though.
Miso, I was confused by how many seasons there were, too! But I did figure it out before the end
I was sadder when hank and Mike died than when Walt did. Bryan Cranston did such a good job though - any time he got sincerely emotional/teary, my heart softened toward him again.
Aaron Paul was perfection as Jesse.
I just watched the last few episodes last weekend and the one where Walt takes holly killed me. The faces that she made at the fireman who found her, omg. Give that baby an Emmy!
Same. I think it was probably because Walt died with his true love.
ETA I especially loved the song that played when he died (Baby Blue). The lyrics were perfect.
"Guess I got what I deserve Kept you waiting there, too long my love All that time, without a word Didn't know you'd think, that I'd forget, or I'd regret
The special love I have for you My baby blue"
I loved their music choices throughout the entire series. One of my favorite scenes was when they started using people's houses as meth labs and disguised them with the tents and bug fumigation. The scene shows them going around throughout the town with tents popping up everywhere and the song "Crystal Blue Persuasion" plays in its entirety. I was like omg, is this about blue crystal meth? lol It was the perfect song.
I really don't remember a lot of the details of the finale. I know he went to their little fort, but can't remember why (to get Jesse? Did he know Jesse was there or was that a coincidence..?) and at some point there was a shoot-out and he fired off his mega-awesome trunk cannon jobber. I'm assuming somewhere between that and when Jesse drives away, he gets shot. lol. Details, shmetails.
A bullet ricochets and hits him in the stomach/lung area. He tells Jesse he wants him to kill him, Jesse tells him to do it himself. Lydia calls Todd and Walt is all "LOL have fun dying from ricin poisoning," and Jesse drives away, laughing and screaming like a madman. Walt collapses and dies in the meth lab - ostensibly finally getting the legendary status/credit he deserved and sought after as the great Heisenberg.
I'll do a one-woman reenactment if needed.
Also, being found at the Nazi meth lab means that Walt will probably get the "credit" for the meth that Jesse was making...the stuff that was "better than ever" that Badger and Skinny Pete thought was Walt's. So his legacy as the only one who could produce that quality is intact, as no one would assume Jesse was making it the whole time.
@misoangry I'm just going to put this here. Jack had glasses, but we ended up drawing them on instead. Worst parents ever. We got some weird looks at the Halloween party.
This creeps me out because Draco was a weird looking m*fer, but I had feels for Jesse.
Wait. Jesse was Draco? Mind blown. (Of course, I've only seen a few HP movies. My mind was also blown when I learned Walt was Malcolm in the Middle's dad and Tim Whatley. I suck at that game).
This creeps me out because Draco was a weird looking m*fer, but I had feels for Jesse.
Wait. Jesse was Draco? Mind blown. (Of course, I've only seen a few HP movies. My mind was also blown when I learned Walt was Malcolm in the Middle's dad and Tim Whatley. I suck at that game).
Wait. Jesse was Draco? Mind blown. (Of course, I've only seen a few HP movies. My mind was also blown when I learned Walt was Malcolm in the Middle's dad and Tim Whatley. I suck at that game).