Have we talked about Tosh's rape joke?

[MrsAxilla]

Jul 13, 2012 13:14:11 GMT -5 AJL said:

I think this thread probably needs to self destruct. It's just going in circles.

Hitler.

Will that work?

[caden]

Jul 13, 2012 13:17:17 GMT -5 2vermont said:

Still waiting for an answer to my question Caden. I think you need to re-read my responses in this thread. My post about the parallel was to make a point to those who defended Tosh and thought that what he said was just dandy, well, because that's what he's like.

And fyi parallels are never the same exact thing. That's why we call it a parallel, no?

Sorry I missed that you were parodying other nesties with your first comment.

[arborgold]

Jul 13, 2012 13:20:05 GMT -5 MrsAxilla said:

Jul 13, 2012 13:14:11 GMT -5 AJL said:

I think this thread probably needs to self destruct. It's just going in circles.

Hitler.

Will that work?

And....thank you, MrsA. You actually got me to laugh. For realsies. You deserve a giant medal. Or a giant martini. Or possibly both.

[dylanite]

For associating Dev w me negatively due to my actions, I'll take Dobber's advice.

[2vermont]

Jul 13, 2012 13:21:11 GMT -5 caden said:

Jul 13, 2012 13:17:17 GMT -5 2vermont said:

Still waiting for an answer to my question Caden. I think you need to re-read my responses in this thread. My post about the parallel was to make a point to those who defended Tosh and thought that what he said was just dandy, well, because that's what he's like.

And fyi parallels are never the same exact thing. That's why we call it a parallel, no?

Sorry I missed that you were parodying other nesties with your first comment.

Thanks...if it makes you feel any better, I think a lot of people missed it and thought I was saying just the opposite. I'm guessing that's a fail on my part...since I'm not as witty as some of the others on here...lol.

[2vermont]

Jul 13, 2012 13:24:21 GMT -5 nuggetbrain said:

Jul 13, 2012 13:22:50 GMT -5 2vermont said:

Thanks...if it makes you feel any better, I think a lot of people missed it and thought I was saying just the opposite. I'm guessing that's a fail on my part...since I'm not as witty as some of the others on here...lol.

You'll never make it at the Comedy Shack, V. I'm sure that just tears you up inside.

LOL..hey, I can laugh at myself!

[brookles]

Jul 13, 2012 13:13:47 GMT -5 iammalcolmx said:

Goodness. Dev I appreciate you defending your husband but I am judging you as well for this crap he says.

Ya know, some of you I don't really know. Some I consider my Internet buddies. Some I have met in real life and care about. If my hypothetical husband said something like that to any one of you I'd be MORTIFIED.

[overture]

Jul 13, 2012 13:26:22 GMT -5 brookles said:

Jul 13, 2012 13:13:47 GMT -5 iammalcolmx said:

Goodness. Dev I appreciate you defending your husband but I am judging you as well for this crap he says.

Ya know, some of you I don't really know. Some I consider my Internet buddies. Some I have met in real life and care about. If my hypothetical husband said something like that to any one of you I'd be MORTIFIED.

And I wouldn't assume your hypothetical husband was speaking for you.

WTF, is Dev supposed to tack an approval line onto Dylanite's posts?

[pixy0stix]

I'm fine with whatever people want to do with this thread. Lock/delete/leave

[2vermont]

Jul 13, 2012 13:37:12 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

I'm fine with whatever people want to do with this thread. Lock/delete/leave

I think there is only one person who should make that call....please PM her and see what she thinks/how she is.

[heyjude]

Jul 13, 2012 13:37:12 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

I'm fine with whatever people want to do with this thread. Lock/delete/leave

Arbors call. But I think it should stay. And Dylanite should be censured and given a time out.

[AJL]

Jul 13, 2012 13:20:05 GMT -5 MrsAxilla said:

Jul 13, 2012 13:14:11 GMT -5 AJL said:

I think this thread probably needs to self destruct. It's just going in circles.

Hitler.

Will that work?

:Y:

[Deleted]

Jul 13, 2012 13:07:42 GMT -5 basilosaurus said:

Yes, but about 20% of us have dealt with some form of rape or attempted rate (by what people assume to be lowball estimates). The chances that the comment would be personal are pretty high.

I'd say very high, given one need not be a victim of rape/attempted rape to be horrified by jokes about rape. (although I have been sexually assaulted, so maybe IDK WTF I'm talking about)

[lyssbobiss, Command, B613]

Would now be an appropriate time for me to tell a version of The Aristocrats? Anyone?

[AJL]

Jul 13, 2012 13:44:42 GMT -5 lyssbobiss, Command, B613 said:

Would now be an appropriate time for me to tell a version of The Aristocrats? Anyone?

FTW

[marynjoe]

Jul 13, 2012 13:42:48 GMT -5 sunmoonstars said:

I'd say very high, given one need not be a victim of rape/attempted rape to be horrified by jokes about rape. (although I have been sexually assaulted, so maybe IDK WTF I'm talking about)

So have I.

[teflep]

Jul 13, 2012 13:14:11 GMT -5 AJL said:

I think this thread probably needs to self destruct. It's just going in circles.

Why, because people are angry and rightfully so? Just curious as I know you are palsies with dyl, but seriously. It just happened (now, if it is resurrected a week from now, this is appropriate).

[teflep]

And, why are we using the term lady internet in this thread on such a sensitive subject?

[teflep]

Jul 13, 2012 13:42:10 GMT -5 heyjude said:

Jul 13, 2012 13:37:12 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

I'm fine with whatever people want to do with this thread. Lock/delete/leave

Arbors call. But I think it should stay. And Dylanite should be censured and given a time out.

Yeah, if we were going to do so to Goldie for changing a post title, I would say this is more warrented. It is burned in my brain and +o( :@ +o( :@

[teflep]

Jul 13, 2012 15:12:01 GMT -5 @bunnybean said:

Jul 13, 2012 15:10:51 GMT -5 teflep said:

And, why are we using the term lady internet in this thread on such a sensitive subject?

Because it's descriptive of the group we are.

That we have delicate tendencies? I'm confused and not obtusively (word?) so.
/side question

[2vermont]

Jul 13, 2012 15:15:08 GMT -5 nuggetbrain said:

Jul 13, 2012 15:13:51 GMT -5 teflep said:

That we have delicate tendencies? I'm confused and not obtusively (word?) so.
/side question

I think she meant more in the "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus" kind of way.

I took it more as a "when in Rome" kind of way.

[thejackpot]

Wow. Sorry Arbor that you were attacked in this manner.

[Bumblebee]

I really hope that you are doing okay Arbor. That comment was completely out of line, and I am sorry that you were treated that way here.

[aw]

I'm glad I missed the joke, because ironically, even though dylanite says some pretty offensive things, I actually enjoy his posts. He's honest, which is refreshing and almost respectful in a strange way. I hope he takes some time away and comes back.

Dev - I know how much it sucks to be judged based on the board's perception of your husband, when it's obvious that his intentions (and in dylanite's case, humor) are either misunderstood or not appreciated in this particular forum. I'm sorry that you are being dragged into this when it really has nothing to do with you.

I say all this having missed the joke. I'm not defending anything. I hope arbor is OK

[mayflowers22]

Wow. I'm glad he apologized!

[brookles]

I feel like I should apologize for bringing Dev into it, but at the same time it would be disingenuous to pretend like the connection between the two doesn't exist.

It doesn't work both ways. Dev and Dylanite interact in threads all the time in more positive ways, and they certainly don't pretend like they aren't married when things are fine and dandy. In a less heated thread people might (and surely have) been all "ha ha Dev, your husband is so funny," and that's okay. So when he acts inappropriately, it's not okay to be like "hey Dev, your husband is being a dick?"

I certainly didn't want this to turn into a pile-on on Dev, though.

[foundmylazybum]

Jul 14, 2012 8:11:30 GMT -5 brookles said:

I feel like I should apologize for bringing Dev into it, but at the same time it would be disingenuous to pretend like the connection between the two doesn't exist.

It doesn't work both ways. Dev and Dylanite interact in threads all the time in more positive ways, and they certainly don't pretend like they aren't married when things are fine and dandy. In a less heated thread people might (and surely have) been all "ha ha Dev, your husband is so funny," and that's okay. So when he acts inappropriately, it's not okay to be like "hey Dev, your husband is being a dick?"

I certainly didn't want this to turn into a pile-on on Dev, though.

Coming in super duper late, but I read every single post. Can you believe that shit?

Anyways...I have to seriously side eye that Brookles you continue to keep coming back to this issue of Dev/Dylanite.

I think we have different values here so this is just rubbing me the wrong way--but I don't get why YOU are pushing DEV to reprimand DYLANITE. In any way.

Get off it. They will handle it in the way they see fit.

How are you a part of their marriage? Oh wait. You aren't.

If you wanted to reprimand your hypothetical husband--get on with your bad self--you might handle it differently than them. Great. We totally got that.

Stop trying to change their marriage. It's pushy.

[2vermont]

Jul 14, 2012 8:11:30 GMT -5 brookles said:

I feel like I should apologize for bringing Dev into it, but at the same time it would be disingenuous to pretend like the connection between the two doesn't exist.

It doesn't work both ways. Dev and Dylanite interact in threads all the time in more positive ways, and they certainly don't pretend like they aren't married when things are fine and dandy. In a less heated thread people might (and surely have) been all "ha ha Dev, your husband is so funny," and that's okay. So when he acts inappropriately, it's not okay to be like "hey Dev, your husband is being a dick?"

I certainly didn't want this to turn into a pile-on on Dev, though.

I don't think any of us think you intended any harm brookles....we know you. ;-) I think it wasn't just "hey Dev your husband is being a jerk" though. You said something along the lines of Dev looking guilty by association. I think that's something different entirely...and unfair.

[brookles]

fmlb, if you think I give a shit about the inner workings of Dev and Dylanite's marriage, you are reading my posts incorrectly. I only care insofar as it pertains to interactions on this message board and the topics at hand. They're married and they talk about it so it's not like it's off the table. In real life and on the Internet, when your spouse or sibling or friend acts like an ass in front of people, it reflects on you. Them's the brakes.
You are not responsible for someone's actions, but if, for example, my dad were visiting and said something racist or homophobic in front of my friends, they'd be like "wow, brookles's dad sure is a jerk."

But no, I'm not trying to "change their marriage." That's weird.

Jul 14, 2012 8:22:29 GMT -5 2vermont said:

I don't think any of us think you intended any harm brookles....we know you. ;-) I think it wasn't just "hey Dev your husband is being a jerk" though. You said something along the lines of Dev looking guilty by association. I think that's something different entirely...and unfair.

Thanks, 2v. I certainly didn't mean to imply that I think Dev is responsible for Dylanite's shitty comments, because I don't. He's responsible for being a dick. Maybe I didn't make it clear enough in my first post about this, but by bringing her up I mostly meant it to be like "hey Dylanite, maybe you should be nicer to your wife's internet friends."

Upon reflection, appealing to him to respect his wife's message board stomping ground was probably fruitless because I doubt he gives a shit. I just don't always remember him being this troll-like in the past.

Edited for clarity

[emmybean]

Holy shit Brookles, there is so much wrong with your position on this, Im almost not sure where to start.

There is a huge difference between internet-elbowing Dev to tell her her husband pulled a dick move, and what you actually said ("your wife is a valued member of the community and you're making her look bad by association, FYI") which was nothing more than an attempt to shame Dylanite via his wife, who wasn't involved in the thread at that point. It was completely unnecessary to pull her in to the discussion that way, and the fact that you continue to push on this point is more than a little puzzling. You absolutely wernt just telling Dev that her husband was acting out, you were telling Dylanite that he was making you think less of his wife, which is some serious bullshit. If you can't separate the two, that's on you, but it's not at all cool to speak for the board in that way.

And I'm not sure where it was established that CEP was Dev's Internet stomping ground in which Dylanite was merely a tolerated guest. Both of them contribute, and have for years, so this notion that somehow Dylanite should kowtow to "Dev's friends" is seriously fucked.