I my house you are no allowed to wear jeans to church. Females wear dresses/skirts. I do not feel comfortable wearing pants to church, weddings, or funerals.
Not religious, but I'm skeptical of come as you are churches or ones that preach that god will always love you no matter what you do. I feel like they set the bar for admittance so low in order to attract and keep members, that they water down the whole thing to nothing.
God's love is UNCONDITIONAL. I don't understand what you are saying here.
Not religious, but I'm skeptical of come as you are churches or ones that preach that god will always love you no matter what you do. I feel like they set the bar for admittance so low in order to attract and keep members, that they water down the whole thing to nothing.
God's love is UNCONDITIONAL. I don't understand what you are saying here.
I need to read the rest of the thread, but what immediately pops to mind here:
“We dress up for what we’re grateful for,” she says. “We’re such a wealthy, spoiled culture that we feel like we have a right to fly on airplanes,” says Fulwiler, author of “Something Other than God,” which details her journey from atheism to Christianity.
Church is like air travel now – it’s no longer a big deal because people have lost their sense of awe before God, Fulwiler says.
is not that people dressed up on planes or in churches because they were grateful, but because it was what wealthier people did. It was to keep up with the Joneses. We got dressed up for church and it was less about "respect for church/god/whathaveyou" and more about my mother needing us to fit in with the people of greater wealth in the community.
Post by lasagnasshole on Apr 21, 2014 13:35:01 GMT -5
I totally admit to wearing jeans to church. Not ratty, beat up jeans. But yes, sometimes just jeans and a t-shirt. I had to dress up as a kid, though.
I haven't been really since moving out here, but I was previously really active in my church. We had one service at 10:00. I'm sorry, what now? 10:00 on a Sunday? I considered seeing the processional a victory.
I wore dresses in the summer just because it was hot. Except for August, when I just had a no-church rule. Unlesa God decided to work a miracle and provide the church with air conditioning, I was not darkening that door in August.
I'm reading all of the stuff about casual Catholic churches & I'm like what? I grew up going to Catholic churches & I had to wear a frilly, godawful, itchy dress every damn Sunday. Then I got to NitaX & @sousdesfrinado posts. They were always BLACK Catholic churches. Maybe that explains it.
Sous I'm eagerly awaiting a time I can wear dresses like that. I'm thinking the kids weddings. Maybe graduations too.
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No. I went to as white as white can be Catholic church growing up and damned if us girls weren't all in dresses every Sunday. My dad would wear a suit and the boys would be in dress pants, shirt, tie and blazers.
Yesterday we went to 8:30 am mass and I was sitting next to a 10-12 year old boy who was wearing sweat pants and an undershirt. Like he'd just rolled out of bed. I confess I was side-eyeing the hell out of his mother. My boys were in matching-ish pink shirts and khaki pants.
I grew up going to Catholic church every week with a lilly white congregation. Everyone dressed up, no questions asked. Jeans would never be acceptable, young girls didn't wear pants, only dresses or skirts. Men were expected to have a collar on, a tie if it was a holiday. I'm surprised to see that's not the norm everywhere as I've not often seen someone show up to church not dressed up (although I'll admit that at this point I only go when I have to for weddings, funerals and other family sacraments).
I grew up in the black church so dressing up is my norm. I don't have a problem with people in nice jeans and plain t-shirts but I judge sloppiness and inappropriate attire. Workout clothes are for working out, cargo shorts are for hanging out, hoodies and yoga pants are for lounging (at least for me). None if these things are appropriate for church.
Post by lasagnasshole on Apr 21, 2014 14:51:06 GMT -5
Yeah, I grew up with an 11 or 11:30 service being available. But my last church only had one priest. For years, there were two services. The early service probably had about 30-35 in attendance, and the later one would have 50-65. It also used to have two priests. When we got a new, solo priest, the move was made to a single service. Logistically, I get it. The congregation was unnecessarily fractured with 2 different services, and there was no issue of space because we just weren't that big. Being the only priest for two services is a LOT of work. But ugh. So early.
Post by irishbride2 on Apr 21, 2014 15:57:04 GMT -5
Early churches are more the norm than not In the catholic faith because pre Vatican 2 you had to fast for twelve hours before mass. Better to fast overnight than during the day.
I actually prefer 9:30. I like to get it over with lol.
Early churches are more the norm than not In the catholic faith because pre Vatican 2 you had to fast for twelve hours before mass. Better to fast overnight than during the day.
I actually prefer 9:30. I like to get it over with lol.
Actually Saturday night is even better .
I can't go get the good word at 6 p.m. then twerk and drop down and get my eagle on at the club at midnight. I just can't. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLL
In my experience, Catholics do not get dressed up for church. I went to a Catholic high school and all of my classmates loved that they could get away with khakis and a turtleneck on Sunday, because we wore dresses all week long. Even my husband told me when I asked if I could wear pants to church with his parents one Christmas, "We're Catholic. We don't dress up for church." Lol.
Not dressing up /=/ wearing sweatpants and work out clothes. It means wearing business casual as opposed to Easter Best every week.
Early churches are more the norm than not In the catholic faith because pre Vatican 2 you had to fast for twelve hours before mass. Better to fast overnight than during the day.
I actually prefer 9:30. I like to get it over with lol.
Actually Saturday night is even better .
I can't go get the good word at 6 p.m. then twerk and drop down and get my eagle on at the club at midnight. I just can't. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Replace "twerk" with "drink heavily" and I'm right there with you.
I'm supposed to drink heavily Saturday, be hungover Sunday, feel guilty for drinking to excess, ask for forgiveness, receive absolution, and start the whole process over again.
Going to church beforehand so that I just feel guilty WHILE drinking...ugh, the WORST.
In my experience, Catholics do not get dressed up for church. I went to a Catholic high school and all of my classmates loved that they could get away with khakis and a turtleneck on Sunday, because we wore dresses all week long. Even my husband told me when I asked if I could wear pants to church with his parents one Christmas, "We're Catholic. We don't dress up for church." Lol.
Not dressing up /=/ wearing sweatpants and work out clothes. It means wearing business casual as opposed to Easter Best every week.
LOL
And then there's my catholic all-girl's high school where we wore sweatpants and sweatshirts most of the week (ROCK ON SPIRIT WEAR!) but our uniform skirt and collared blouse was mandatory for mass day.
I'm torn on this. At the synagogue where I grew up, it was expected that you dress nicely for services (Shabbat etc). For High Holidays, you went dressier, in a new outfit esp for Rosh Hashana/YK. Then the congregation grew, the town got richer, and suddenly, it was Chanel, LV, hats, and the like. Now, it's a competition of who can dress the best/fanciest for shul. It's become more about the clothes than the community. (And G-d help me, the young women. Holy shit. It's like mini-skirts r us and high heels. If I had a daughter, there is no fucking way she'd leave the house like that for shul.)
At our shul here, I dress up for services. It's pretty modest/casual, but the older crowd gets dressier for Shabbat/High Holidays. I like the community feel here, but I can't get behind the jeans at High Holidays. It's the HOLIEST day of the year. Put on regular khakis if you don't want to wear a dress.
IDK, jeans at a formal service don't work for me. Just the way I was raised.
Of course God's love is unconditional. But his side eye and displeasure is pure and holy.
I don't wear jeans to church on Sunday because I'm a SAHM who doesn't have a chance to wear her good shoes otherwise. I wear jeans and tees to church on Wednesday night though and give no damns.
Of course God's love is unconditional. But his side eye and displeasure is pure and holy.
I don't wear jeans to church on Sunday because I'm a SAHM who doesn't have a chance to wear her good shoes otherwise. I wear jeans and tees to church on Wednesday night though and give no damns.
See, that's an interesting point.
When I was wearing a suit every damned day, dressing up again for church just seemed...blah...I'm already dragging my butt out of bed on a Sunday morning.
Now I work from home 2 days a week (seriously, y'all, I was in my PJs til 1pm today) and work in a pretty casual place the other three days. So throwing on a dress for church seems like it would be nice. You know, when I start going again. Because I will. This week...just like I say every week, LOL.
Just to be clear, I don't think God is displeased necessarily by wearing jeans and a tee to church. I just think it's really shitty logic to say that because God loves us unconditionally, we can do whatever we want. I mean I love my kids no matter what they do but I will still rain down displeasure and grief on any child of mine who leaves this house looking like an unloved vagabond prepping to beg for alms in the foyer.
I also think it's poor logic to say well, God cares more about what's in your heart than what you wear. The two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. Can your heart be turned towards the Lord while wearing ratty yoga pants and your old college shirt? Sure. Who am I to say? But God told Moses to take off his shoes when standing on holy ground. I don't think I need to take off my shoes (unless the pain of my 4 and half inch heels is distracting me from the message.) But I do think that time and time again we're told to prepare our hearts and our persons before we come into his presence. Obviously, that will vary on the person. But for me, it means putting more effort into my appearance when I come to God's house than when I do to do laundry. For me, I've come to worship God, not shlog my way through a mundane chore. So I personally can't show up that way.
I don't go to church because I'm a heathen but I will just say that my brother in law wore a white undershirt and a pair of old, light wash jeans to my parents 40th anniversary dinner at a fancy steakhouse in Boston in December, so I can only imagine what he wears to church the one or two times a year he goes. Maybe God loves him unconditionally, but God also didn't have the enjoyment of his lobster bisque disrupted by the high beams of a 39 year old manchild.
I don't go to church because I'm a heathen but I will just say that my brother in law wore a white undershirt and a pair of old, light wash jeans to my parents 40th anniversary dinner at a fancy steakhouse in Boston in December, so I can only imagine what he wears to church the one or two times a year he goes. Maybe God loves him unconditionally, but God also didn't have the enjoyment of his lobster bisque disrupted by the high beams of a 39 year old manchild.
There is definitely a wide variety of attire at catholic mass but I was raised in a pretty tight knit catholic community and mass, to a degree, was a social occasion and my mom was pretty strict about what we could wear to 9am Sunday mass. 5:30 on Saturday was much more lenient. I have no idea if this is a norm where 5:30 Saturday mass is more casual but I've probably worn pants to Sunday mass once in my life and it was last year for Easter when I wore some cute jcrew Minnie pants. I've worn jeans to Saturday mass though.
But hey, when we go to mass, I coordinate all of our outfits and not just on holidays. That's what happens when you rarely have to dress up - it's exciting instead of a chore...
I grew up going to 7:30 am mass.. "Expressway church" according to my dad. There was no music, we'd get out of there in 3o mins! I used to babysit till late sat nights and still have to get up for that. I never wore jeans but I doubt I ever brushed my hair.
Post by EloiseWeenie on Apr 21, 2014 21:00:35 GMT -5
I go to the contemporary service, and haven't seen anything worthy of judgement. There are suits, polos, dresses, jeans, it's all over the map. The contemporary service is the least formal.
There were 2 people I judged at the church I went to throughout my 20s. My one friend wore pajama bottoms and a white t-shirt for months. The older members never said anything to him, but I told him he needs to at least put CLOTHES on. Then, this college girl wore ill-fitting, low cut jeans. When she was seated (folding chairs, no pews), the top of the pants was flush on the seat of the chair, leaving a large portion of her butt exposed. She always sat in front of me, and I would PTL when she'd wear anything but those jeans. How could she not feel her entire (small) ass being exposed?!?!
Not religious, but I'm skeptical of come as you are churches or ones that preach that god will always love you no matter what you do. I feel like they set the bar for admittance so low in order to attract and keep members, that they water down the whole thing to nothing.
God's love is UNCONDITIONAL. I don't understand what you are saying here.
I was on my phone and should have elucidated. The churches I've seen that operate this way seem to advance this belief that you don't need to change your life, live by certain tenets or atone in any way, you just need to be contrite enough and God will be totally cool with whatever choice you've made. Church means 45 minutes of feel-good on Sundays, plus girls night out with church friends and a Starbucks in the lobby. It's an extremely comfortable, suburban version of religion, one that's designed to turn off the fewest number of people. It seems inauthentic to me - not advocating flagellation or anything but some standards seem in order to call it religion, no?
We haven't attended in a long time, (DS1 hates to hear people sing) but I never felt comfortable dressing down too much, even for the casual services.
But my kids? They don't own dress shoes, sport coats, etc. The article mentioned kids in sneakers. They each have exactly one pair of running shoes and one pair of Keens.
Funny thing, DS did just say today he'd be willing to go back to church because "they had good chips." A contemporary service we tried has round tables in the back where kids could color Bible scenes and munch on tortilla chips. Does church count if you're just there for the chips?
God's love is UNCONDITIONAL. I don't understand what you are saying here.
I was on my phone and should have elucidated. The churches I've seen that operate this way seem to advance this belief that you don't need to change your life, live by certain tenets or atone in any way, you just need to be contrite enough and God will be totally cool with whatever choice you've made. Church means 45 minutes of feel-good on Sundays, plus girls night out with church friends and a Starbucks in the lobby. It's an extremely comfortable, suburban version of religion, one that's designed to turn off the fewest number of people. It seems inauthentic to me - not advocating flagellation or anything but some standards seem in order to call it religion, no?