Apparently the Silent Generation is so called because they were too busy with their careers to give a hit about any social causes.
Lol! My dad was on an FBI watch list for his suspected communist sympathies, so... But that was because he was a college professor so was obviously part of the occult or something.
Well now I'm curious. How did he know this? Did they tell him?
Greatest and silent are the same I think. Not sure though.
No, Greatest is 1901-1924 and Silent is 1925-1942.
ETA: in terms of wars they fought in (or were old enough to fight in), Lost Generation is WWI, Greatest is WWII, Silent is Korea.
OK, so the grandparents were Greatest. He has a lot of Silent traits. Minus military service and with the addition of being a super involved parent who does all the cooking and shopping.
Apparently, 502 WOMEN should be saying this. I'm assuming they'll survey 500 men to see how well they make a highball and whether they can adequately fix little Jimmy's bike.
Bwahaha, my H that can fix everything that I mentioned a few posts back loves to make a highball. His grandmother basically raised him as a Greatest. Lol, it's like I'm married to an 80 year old.
Eta: what is the group before boomers called? Greatest? Who is Silent?
I think Silent is between Greatest and Boomers. Greatest birthed Boomers who birthed Millennials. Silent birthed Gen X who birthed today's pre-teens and teens (Gen Z?). Silent is smaller because they're the ones who were born when the Greatest generation was off fighting in WWII or otherwise contributing to the war effort. Hence, their kids' generation, X, is likewise smaller.
Are you suggesting that had I posted seeking sympathy, then people would have the common decency not to wish death on other human beings? Is that what it takes?
Or that they would exempt my parents from the blanket condemnation?
No thanks. I doubt that support obtained under that set of circumstances would be very real. They'd go right back to thoughtlessly wishing death on old people in the very next post, never caring who else might feel pained at reading it.
Maybe there should be a trigger warning.
I think I don't like you. Your boomer parents obv. didn't teach you how to see shades of gray or have a sense of humor. Luckilly my boomer parents did! And they didn't even have to teach me to sew a button on in the process!
That's a shame, because I really like you - a lot.
Can you name another group on this board that has to have this sense of humor when they are regularly told "I wish you all would die"?
Because I can't think of another instance where we'd accept that.
Post by cattledogkisses on Oct 21, 2014 8:59:16 GMT -5
It's funny, someone brought up how military men sewed back in the day, and even that isn't true anymore. My grandfather can sew a button, mend a seam, iron, etc. H takes everything to a tailor. My grandfather can make a bed to perfection, and H... well...not so much. Lol.
When I was a kid and my grandparents would babysit us, my grandfather would jokingly do mock "inspections" of our rooms. Hangers in the closet two finger-width apart, shoes toes-to-the-wall, crisp seams on the sheets... ha, fond memories. Oh wait, I forgot we're supposed to hate the oldz.
That's a shame, because I really like you - a lot.
Can you name another group on this board that has to have this sense of humor when they are regularly told "I wish you all would die"?
Because I can't think of another instance where we'd accept that.
You need to show us links/posts where someone said -- SERIOUSLY, not tongue in cheek -- that they wanted all boomers to die.
Well...I think what's she's saying is that it's a joke in poor taste that we wouldn't accept about any other group. Like if there was a board joke about how all those jews should just die already - that would be pretty fucking awful.
I'm honestly questioning that it's even a reoccurring joke though. Maybe it is and I've never noticed.
You need to show us links/posts where someone said -- SERIOUSLY, not tongue in cheek -- that they wanted all boomers to die.
Well...I think what's she's saying is that it's a joke in poor taste that we wouldn't accept about any other group. Like if there was a board joke about how all those jews should just die already - that would be pretty fucking awful.
I'm honestly questioning that it's even a reoccurring joke though. Maybe it is and I've never noticed.
I think this is also kind of in the vein about, you can make certain jokes about the group in power but not about the people who aren't in power. Like, it's one thing to make fun of white people or straight people but when you say the same thing about black people or gay people, it become a lot more cringe worthy because those are groups that historically *have* had terrible things happen to them and people who genuinely believed those things (and not in good fun). Kind of like, this is why black people can use the N word but not white people. Context matters.
That's a shame, because I really like you - a lot.
Can you name another group on this board that has to have this sense of humor when they are regularly told "I wish you all would die"?
Because I can't think of another instance where we'd accept that.
You need to show us links/posts where someone said -- SERIOUSLY, not tongue in cheek -- that they wanted all boomers to die.
That's hard for me at work right now, where I'm not supposed to be on the internet. But right in this thread, eclaires says EVERYTHING is the fault of boomers and there are two people who post all the time about the "oldz" and how they need to die.
Tongue in cheek or not, I can't imagine it ever being all right to post that about anyone else. I don't think people would take kindly to me posting - "your kids all need to die, ok?" And why should they?
What the hell do you people who don't fold fitted sheets do? Ball them up?
Pretty much.
I mean, they're going to get all smoothed out on the bed anyway when they get fitted to the mattress. What is the point of folding them? I store them in a drawer. I just fit it to something resembling a flat ball, and put the flat sheet and pillowcases on top of that.
I may or may not iron my sheets when they're wrinkled. Because, uh, no.
Well...I think what's she's saying is that it's a joke in poor taste that we wouldn't accept about any other group. Like if there was a board joke about how all those jews should just die already - that would be pretty fucking awful.
I'm honestly questioning that it's even a reoccurring joke though. Maybe it is and I've never noticed.
I think this is also kind of in the vein about, you can make certain jokes about the group in power but not about the people who aren't in power. Like, it's one thing to make fun of white people or straight people but when you say the same thing about black people or gay people, it become a lot more cringe worthy because those are groups that historically *have* had terrible things happen to them and people who genuinely believed those things (and not in good fun). Kind of like, this is why black people can use the N word but not white people. Context matters.
But on this board, boomers are NOT the group in power, so it definitely feels like a mean girl thing.
Damn, now I'm crying at my desk. Wearing my mom's sweater because we finally went through her things yesterday and wondering how the hell you can hate someone and blame the ills of the world on them just because of their age.
Well...I think what's she's saying is that it's a joke in poor taste that we wouldn't accept about any other group. Like if there was a board joke about how all those jews should just die already - that would be pretty fucking awful.
I'm honestly questioning that it's even a reoccurring joke though. Maybe it is and I've never noticed.
I think this is also kind of in the vein about, you can make certain jokes about the group in power but not about the people who aren't in power. Like, it's one thing to make fun of white people or straight people but when you say the same thing about black people or gay people, it become a lot more cringe worthy because those are groups that historically *have* had terrible things happen to them and people who genuinely believed those things (and not in good fun). Kind of like, this is why black people can use the N word but not white people. Context matters.
“Satire is traditionally the weapon of the powerless against the powerful. I only aim at the powerful. When satire is aimed at the powerless, it is not only cruel—it’s vulgar.” -Molly Ivins
You need to show us links/posts where someone said -- SERIOUSLY, not tongue in cheek -- that they wanted all boomers to die.
That's hard for me at work right now, where I'm not supposed to be on the internet. But right in this thread, eclaires says EVERYTHING is the fault of boomers and there are two people who post all the time about the "oldz" and how they need to die.
Tongue in cheek or not, I can't imagine it ever being all right to post that about anyone else. I don't think people would take kindly to me posting - "your kids all need to die, ok?" And why should they?
We have TIC posts about "kids these days" ALL THE DAMN TIME. And there is a big difference between somebody jokingly saying that the oldz should just die off already (like in a voting demographics post, or social security, or the cost of healthcare. which I'm not sure has ever happened, but wouldn't surprise me) and somebody literally saying, "I wish your parents would just die already."
Big difference.
TIC references like eclaire's joke are more like somebody saying, "damn breeders. stop making kids!" in a thread about world overpopulation. And shit like that DOES get said.
To this day, I struggle to iron things without actually making them wrinklier or ruining the textile. My mother can iron the shit out of any piece of clothing. I weep with envy when I visit my parents and she irons my clothing into a state of perfection.
I also cannot fold a motherfucking fitted sheet to save my motherfucking life.
This! My mom used to iron our sheets. Her linen closet was like a work of art. Mine looks like shit.. I really don't care!
I think this is also kind of in the vein about, you can make certain jokes about the group in power but not about the people who aren't in power. Like, it's one thing to make fun of white people or straight people but when you say the same thing about black people or gay people, it become a lot more cringe worthy because those are groups that historically *have* had terrible things happen to them and people who genuinely believed those things (and not in good fun). Kind of like, this is why black people can use the N word but not white people. Context matters.
But on this board, boomers are NOT the group in power, so it definitely feels like a mean girl thing.
Damn, now I'm crying at my desk. Wearing my mom's sweater because we finally went through her things yesterday and wondering how the hell you can hate someone and blame the ills of the world on them just because of their age.
The boomers are not, as a group, downtrodden. Please stop trying to make them into victims because the demographics of this message board skew younger.
Also - and I say this with complete sincerity - have you talked to a therapist to help work through your grief? Because this thing you're doing here where you seem to think that we don't all also love our parents seems not totally healthy.
We went to a fire department open house this weekend, and there was game called "Hot or Not?" The kid had to say whether something was hot. One of the pictures was a lighter. DS didn't know what that was. The Firewoman said, "That's good!" Then she had a picture of an iron. He didn't know what that was either. I'm a Gen X-er so this article doesn't exactly apply to me. I can sew on buttons and I can fix a tear if it's in a seam. I plan to teach both children how to do those things. Beyond that, I am willing to pay someone who has a clue.
It's funny, someone brought up how military men sewed back in the day, and even that isn't true anymore. My grandfather can sew a button, mend a seam, iron, etc. H takes everything to a tailor. My grandfather can make a bed to perfection, and H... well...not so much. Lol.
When I was a kid and my grandparents would babysit us, my grandfather would jokingly do mock "inspections" of our rooms. Hangers in the closet two finger-width apart, shoes toes-to-the-wall, crisp seams on the sheets... ha, fond memories. Oh wait, I forgot we're supposed to hate the oldz.
My grandpa used to cook us lunch -- it would be this heavy veggie soup with a leftover roast bone or something, with bread and cheese and always make me a blackberry cobbler. I loved him. We would sit on the porch and he would tell us stories about when he was a little kid going to school and how they had to line up and be inspected for grooming and stuff. It was interesting.
My grandfather was a cowboy and served in WWI. He taught my mom to sew, make a bed, cook (which may explain a few things...), darn a sock, etc. because he had to do all that on his own. Mom (Silent Gen) taught me how to do all those things except darn a sock because...well, who wants to darn crappy store-bought socks?
My husband, otoh, as the product of Boomers, had to google "how to clean a bathroom". :S
I mean, they're going to get all smoothed out on the bed anyway when they get fitted to the mattress. What is the point of folding them? I store them in a drawer. I just fit it to something resembling a flat ball, and put the flat sheet and pillowcases on top of that.
I may or may not iron my sheets when they're wrinkled. Because, uh, no.
My mom would weep for joy if I did this. She (a nurse and a boomer!) tried for so many years to get me to fold sheets, and make a bed with hospital corners.
FTR, I *can* fold a fitted sheet. I just don't see the point. The art of a freshly made bed is totally lost on me. I own it. However, I will make the bed up all nicely for my guests.
Baby boomers lived during times when we did not have inexpensive options for clothing (made in the USA and NOT made in China, India, Vietnam etc) and thus learning to sew was a valuable skill in taking care of clothing, making it last and expanding on your wardrobe my sewing your own items which cost less than the store price. It was a time of increasing, but not majority of households with 2 incomes. Many women were home and could add sewing, stain removal and clothing repairs to their household tasks.
Millenials grew up in a different world where clothing (mostly foreign made)was inexpensive, had 2 income households and it was cheaper to replace an item than sew it yourself. With most women working, there was less time available for laundry, sewing or clothing repairs and it was often cheaper to replace an item than repair it.
MH was showing his coworkers pictures of our newly renovated house once - and a picture of our bedroom was in it. His (slightly bitchy, totally filter-free) office manager looks at them and goes, "jeez WawaHusband, you could have at least made the bed." Ummm....it was made. Apparently our duvet cover was too wrinkly for her taste. Or something.
I know we are past this part of the thread's progression, but I just wanted to add that toddler/baby stuff in stores including layette and clothing were pretty much nonexistent even 40 years ago compared to today, and so if you were gonna have cute anything for your kids you made it your damned self or spent lots of money at a boutique. It was more like speciality item sewing than everyday wear, but still enough to keep the general skill alive.
I AM on the death panel, but I think that's just because I think Medicare needs to be revamped and reigned in a bit, means-tested and placed in a secondary insurer position. Also, because I do not think it's appropriate to give a pacemaker to an 84 year old man with congestive heart failure.
SBP!! You too?? Don't do this to me. Rein. Like a horse. It is a phrase actually used in horseback riding - to rein your horse in - meaning to shorten your reins to signal to the horse to slow down.
I AM on the death panel, but I think that's just because I think Medicare needs to be revamped and reigned in a bit, means-tested and placed in a secondary insurer position. Also, because I do not think it's appropriate to give a pacemaker to an 84 year old man with congestive heart failure.
SBP!! You too?? Don't do this to me. Rein. Like a horse. It is a phrase actually used in horseback riding - to rein your horse in - meaning to shorten your reins to signal to the horse to slow down.
I can't get on board with correcting grammar on here simply because I think we've all seen the havoc autocorrect can wreak.
I know we are past this part of the thread's progression, but I just wanted to add that toddler/baby stuff in stores including layette and clothing were pretty much nonexistent even 40 years ago compared to today, and so if you were gonna have cute anything for your kids you made it your damned self or spent lots of money at a boutique. It was more like speciality item sewing than everyday wear, but still enough to keep the general skill alive.
Not to mention maternity clothes were few and far between.
SBP!! You too?? Don't do this to me. Rein. Like a horse. It is a phrase actually used in horseback riding - to rein your horse in - meaning to shorten your reins to signal to the horse to slow down.
I can't get on board with correcting grammar on here simply because I think we've all seen the havoc autocorrect can wreak.
well I'm certainly not going to start correcting comma splices or typos. Especially since I often post from my phone and can't spell for shit - but this right here is where I draw the line.