Obama speech

[josieposy]

Happening soon.

Can't wait to see how many heads explode at once.

[secretlyevil]

I'm going to need a play by play as I'm out to dinner with the in-laws listening to my step father in law sing.

[josieposy]

Paraphrasing:

You won't be deported if you meet certain criteria. It is not amnesty.

Mass deportation isn't realistic.

If you are a criminal or cross the border illegally, your odds of getting deported just went up.

Congress, if you want to come at me, pass a bill!

[saz]

Is it terrible that I wish it wasn't making me miss Jeopardy? It is. I'm a bad American.

[anonymous]

Nov 20, 2014 20:10:47 GMT -5 josieposy said:

Paraphrasing:

You won't be deported if you meet certain criteria. It is not amnesty.

Mass deportation isn't realistic.

If you are a criminal or cross the border illegally, your odds of getting deported just went up.

Congress, if you want to come at me, pass a bill!

I didn't see it but I'm okay with this

[katfco]

Nov 20, 2014 20:02:53 GMT -5 secretlyevil said:

I'm going to need a play by play as I'm out to dinner with the in-laws listening to my step father in law sing.

I just turned it on, but 
1. This should have been Congress's job, but the House refused to play ball
2. The goal is to deport criminals, and allow illegal immigrants to apply for temporary permits to stay with the expectation that they be law-abiding taxpayers. 
3. This is supposed to be Congress's job, but again, they're not playing ball
4. He's said "get right with the law" about 5 times and every time, it makes me think of revival tent meeting preachers, saying, "Get right with the Lord!" 

Basically, this is a good, law-abiding, compassionate action and Republicans need to get with the program and stop being hypocrites. 

[gpw]

What he just said:

[IIOY]

Twitter is responding positively. Apparently Obama looked and acted more confident than usual. I wonder if he no longer gives a damn on this issue.

[MrsAxilla]

Nov 20, 2014 20:36:32 GMT -5 IIOY said:

Twitter is responding positively. Apparently Obama looked and acted more confident than usual. I wonder if he no longer gives a damn on this issue.

The word that came to my mind was smug - in a good way.  Like, "you can't stop me, motherfuckers". 

[secretlyevil]

I dunno, I like fuck you attitude Obama.

[IIOY]

YOLO Obama?

ETA: no, wait - YOLObama!

[josieposy]

He did look almost younger and calmer.

[katfco]

I wonder if he's decided that since he's not helping anyone run for anything anymore, maybe now he doesn't have to avoid ticking anyone off and can do what he wants.

[ttt]

Nov 20, 2014 20:13:18 GMT -5 gpw said:

What he just said:

I literally LOL'ed. 

[skwcm80]

Nov 20, 2014 20:48:25 GMT -5 josieposy said:

He did look almost younger and calmer.

My MIL and I noticed this too.

[karinothing]

I may have stolen a lot from this post for my Facebook

[iammalcolmx]

Finally watched. I LOLed @ " Pass a bill!"

[erbear]

IJC with some of the idiocy on my Facebook. I'm definitely throwing YOLObama out there soon.

[vlagrl]

Why wasn't his speech on all the regular channels? It was only on PBS here. I do have a question - how will immigrants be able to prove they have been here at least 5 years or longer? What happens after the 2 years is up?

[ttt]

H turned on Fox News last night and it was kind of hilarious watching their heads explode over this speech. It was all OMG OBAMA IS DESTROYING THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!!!11!!

[josieposy]

Well they filed their ACA lawsuit (I heard) so we will see how many outrage balls they can juggle.

[secretlyevil]

YOLObama is freaking hilarious.

[vlagrl]

Nov 21, 2014 13:57:50 GMT -5 ttt said:

H turned on Fox News last night and it was kind of hilarious watching their heads explode over this speech. It was all OMG OBAMA IS DESTROYING THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!!!11!!

I've gotten away from politics the last couple years and officially decided I'm an Independent voter.  I just got so sick of fox news complaining all the time.  When we were driving to OK last weekend DH had it on Fox thru his satellite car radio - it's all they talked about.  Made it seem that he was making 5 million illegals legal.  I like to hear all the facts before I make any decisions on whether I think something is good or not.

[ttt]

Nov 21, 2014 14:05:25 GMT -5 vlagrl said:

Nov 21, 2014 13:57:50 GMT -5 ttt said:

H turned on Fox News last night and it was kind of hilarious watching their heads explode over this speech. It was all OMG OBAMA IS DESTROYING THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!!!11!!

I've gotten away from politics the last couple years and officially decided I'm an Independent voter.  I just got so sick of fox news complaining all the time.  When we were driving to OK last weekend DH had it on Fox thru his satellite car radio - it's all they talked about.  Made it seem that he was making 5 million illegals legal.  I like to hear all the facts before I make any decisions on whether I think something is good or not.

And you know, if they were debating the merits of the plan, I would't have a problem with that. Like, this is a bad idea because studies show wages will go down by xyz. Whatever. But they can't even bother to talk about the facts of the plan - it's all OMG it's totally unconstitutional and Obama hates America!!! despite the fact that this kind of immigration policy executive order has been done by numerous previous presidents. 

[gpw]

Nov 21, 2014 13:46:01 GMT -5 vlagrl said:

Why wasn't his speech on all the regular channels? It was only on PBS here. I do have a question - how will immigrants be able to prove they have been here at least 5 years or longer? What happens after the 2 years is up?

There are a lot of ways to prove that one has been here.  Lease agreements, rent receipts, any receipt for utility, sometimes affidavits from family members can be used.  Letters from employers, check stubs, etc.  

[vlagrl]

Nov 21, 2014 14:37:27 GMT -5 gpw said:

Nov 21, 2014 13:46:01 GMT -5 vlagrl said:

Why wasn't his speech on all the regular channels? It was only on PBS here. I do have a question - how will immigrants be able to prove they have been here at least 5 years or longer? What happens after the 2 years is up?

There are a lot of ways to prove that one has been here.  Lease agreements, rent receipts, any receipt for utility, sometimes affidavits from family members can be used.  Letters from employers, check stubs, etc.  

That makes sense….I really hadn't thought about all that.

[vlagrl]

Nov 21, 2014 14:08:08 GMT -5 ttt said:

Nov 21, 2014 14:05:25 GMT -5 vlagrl said:

I've gotten away from politics the last couple years and officially decided I'm an Independent voter.  I just got so sick of fox news complaining all the time.  When we were driving to OK last weekend DH had it on Fox thru his satellite car radio - it's all they talked about.  Made it seem that he was making 5 million illegals legal.  I like to hear all the facts before I make any decisions on whether I think something is good or not.

And you know, if they were debating the merits of the plan, I would't have a problem with that. Like, this is a bad idea because studies show wages will go down by xyz. Whatever. But they can't even bother to talk about the facts of the plan - it's all OMG it's totally unconstitutional and Obama hates America!!! despite the fact that this kind of immigration policy executive order has been done by numerous previous presidents. 

They will probably try to sue him again.  I had a feeling there was more to the story than - amnesty lol.