Oh, and no daughter of mine will be wearing thongs or removing pubes under my roof. I'm now aware that we must have appropriate trim guidelines and learn that you can have no panty lines in ways that don't equal a ten year old in a thong. Big fuck no.
Wow. You won't let your daughters remove their own body hair? Will there be inspections? I can see not buying them thongs but I think its a little squicky to try to have control one way or the other over their body hair. I don't know if this is turning into a slut shaming thing but I did those things for me, not for a guy. I did know 12 yos that were having sex and I don't think their parents could control that either.
Yes. I'm going to slut shame my daughters. That's totally what not letting thongs and shaving off all your pubic hair equals. And inspections. Weekly. No, wait, every time they shower. And twice on the day of our Lord.
Meh. To each her own. I have no problem with a full bush (male or female). In the summer, I trim (and shave my legs and pits.) In the cooler months, I go into yeti mode. How does my husband feel about it? He has told me that it doesn't bother him a bit (leg, armpit, or pube hair).
I will say that fulling shaved/waxed pubic areas creep me out. Prepubescent children are who have naturally hairless pupic areas and it creeps me out that anyone finds a totally hairless area on an adult sexually attractive.
Yea, that was me. That's what hair does. I really don't care if people keep their bushes because its a personal choice but you can't convince me that having a bush at the end of the day will feel or be cleaner.
Unless you're shaving/waxing your head I'm calling bullshit on this being about being as clean as you can be. A doctor wrote this saying there are reasons we have public hair and it's not to make us dirtier. We have hair protecting many entry points to our bodies. They have a job to do. Now, if your body hair makes you feel dirty-that's fair enough, but that's on you. Don't go around making out like those of us who don't remove our body hair are dirty as a result.
I'm going to shave off my eyebrows and remove my eyelashes. I think that will keep my eyes cleaner. Same thing with my nose hairs.
Meh. To each her own. I have no problem with a full bush (male or female). In the summer, I trim (and shave my legs and pits.) In the cooler months, I go into yeti mode. How does my husband feel about it? He has told me that it doesn't bother him a bit (leg, armpit, or pube hair).
I will say that fulling shaved/waxed pubic areas creep me out. Prepubescent children are who have naturally hairless pupic areas and it creeps me out that anyone finds a totally hairless area on an adult sexually attractive.
See, I find this just as ^o) worthy as the whole "pubes are dirty" thing.
No amount of waxing in the world is going to make me look like a 12 year old.
I'd be worried about my child's body image if they felt they had to shave their pubes when it's still just peach fuzz. That's not body shaming, that's actual parenting.
Trust me, it wasn't just peach fuzz.
The slut shaming bit was a premature disclosure that my decision did not have to do with a guy or sex. If my mom tried to tell me what to do with my own body hair, I may have done it out of spite and I highly doubt I would have felt as close to her to talk about other things. After 11 or 12, there was no reason for my mom to even see.
Well, I'm not going to charge in there and say OMG, I WILL KILL YOU IF YOU SHAVE YOUR BITS, YOU BODY HATING HUSSY!!!
But I still spend a decent amount of time with that kid in some state of undress and vice versa because we're girls and that's how we roll. We hang out quite a bit, discuss girl business, why women/girls do this, don't do that, when will she be old enough to shave this or that, how old does she have to be before I'll let her wear blush, or eyeshadow and why. So these are natural conversations.
She asked me if she could shave her armpits, I said yes, and showed her how. She asked when she could shave her legs and I said, nah, not yet, let's wait and see if your hair gets darker and more noticeable, if it bothers you, etc because you know, you don't actually have to shave your legs because your body is fine the way it is and you're eleven. So a conversation about pubes will go similarly.
I think we've actually discussed shaving the beav before and I told her that I personally didn't think it was necessary, that's it's cool to do now and then but that it itches like a mofo so good luck but she's a child and she doesn't need to do that, not until she's much, much older. And if she ever wants to, we can talk about it.
But yeah, I'm totally a controlling asshole hell bent on slut shaming my child because I want her to wait until at least 16 to have sex and not let society tell her she's dirty because of how God created her scrawny little ass.
Meh. To each her own. I have no problem with a full bush (male or female). In the summer, I trim (and shave my legs and pits.) In the cooler months, I go into yeti mode. How does my husband feel about it? He has told me that it doesn't bother him a bit (leg, armpit, or pube hair).
I will say that fulling shaved/waxed pubic areas creep me out. Prepubescent children are who have naturally hairless pupic areas and it creeps me out that anyone finds a totally hairless area on an adult sexually attractive.
See, I find this just as worthy as the whole "pubes are dirty" thing.
No amount of waxing in the world is going to make me look like a 12 year old.
There are also grown women who are slight of build, have small breasts, narrow hips, and/or not much hair. They aren't 12 year old girls even if they still share some traits and it doesn't make those who find them sexually attractive some kind of weirdo.
Post by tacosforlife on Dec 1, 2014 9:57:48 GMT -5
I mentioned her recently, but comedian Phoebe Robinson did a hilarious bit on pube grooming when I saw her.
The gist of it - which was much funnier coming from her - is that in a few years, the ibuprofen commercials aren't going to be 60-year-old men lifting stuff, but 37-year-old women with hand cramps from spending so much time trimming and shaving their pubes. It was pretty LOL-tastic.
How the hell does a 6th grader get a pair of thongs?? Like, actually, who pays for them? That's what I need to know. My 6th grade allowance got me two trips to McDonald's a week and a key chain or earrings from Claire's when I was in baller mode.
I guess it's my generation speaking, though .
Pinky is in the sixth grade. She still wears the Hanes 12 pack from Walmart. I don't think I've even seen a thong in the kids section and she ain't getting one no how anyway. Worried about VPL? Wear less tight pants.
If we have a special occasion where the skirt or whatever needs to lie smoothly, we'll get her the seamless style of briefs. I have a few pair myself and they work just fine.
i feel like a 6th grader in a thong was a flashpoint 20 years ago but not so much now. whale tale and all that. the movie 13.
but i dont hang with 6th graders anymore.
I live with one. Can you believe I have a 6th grader? I think when I started here, she was in kindergarten. Good lord!!
But to the topic, I think there are ways to steer your kid elsewhere when they ask for things. You want thongs? No. But you can have this soft, full coverage, lace underpants. You want to shave your bits? Why? Oh no reason? Then you'll have to wait until you give me one, like maybe in a couple years when I'm willing to buy you a smaller bathing suit and you'd like to trim up. No biggie.
That's how parenting works. It's a series of conversations and golden opportunities to shape your child's way of thinking or at least give them something to think about while they wait to be old enough to do what they want with themselves.
Meh. To each her own. I have no problem with a full bush (male or female). In the summer, I trim (and shave my legs and pits.) In the cooler months, I go into yeti mode. How does my husband feel about it? He has told me that it doesn't bother him a bit (leg, armpit, or pube hair).
I will say that fulling shaved/waxed pubic areas creep me out. Prepubescent children are who have naturally hairless pupic areas and it creeps me out that anyone finds a totally hairless area on an adult sexually attractive.
See, I find this just as worthy as the whole "pubes are dirty" thing.
No amount of waxing in the world is going to make me look like a 12 year old.
Clearly because you're not 12. I still think it's weird.
Unless you're shaving/waxing your head I'm calling bullshit on this being about being as clean as you can be. A doctor wrote this saying there are reasons we have public hair and it's not to make us dirtier. We have hair protecting many entry points to our bodies. They have a job to do. Now, if your body hair makes you feel dirty-that's fair enough, but that's on you. Don't go around making out like those of us who don't remove our body hair are dirty as a result.
I'm going to shave off my eyebrows and remove my eyelashes. I think that will keep my eyes cleaner. Same thing with my nose hairs.
But then you won't be able to talk about mascara and eyebrow liner in the MUT. YWIA.
All I got out of this is apparently 6 graders wear thongs?
I didn't own a thong until I was 19 and my bf at the time said he thought they were sexy.
I wore it exactly one time, and then promptly threw it away at the end of the night. Fuck. That. Shit.
I have a similar experience with thongs. I don't understand the purpose. Why would you want a piece of fabric right in your crack? It's like half a piece of skimpy underwear (offering the same amount of coverage as an untrimmed bush I might add). Why bother? Might as well go commando.Â
I've always wondered this. Why exactly do thongs do that makes it any better than wearing nothing at all?
All I got out of this is apparently 6 graders wear thongs?
I didn't own a thong until I was 19 and my bf at the time said he thought they were sexy.
I wore it exactly one time, and then promptly threw it away at the end of the night. Fuck. That. Shit.
I have a similar experience with thongs. I don't understand the purpose. Why would you want a piece of fabric right in your crack? It's like half a piece of skimpy underwear (offering the same amount of coverage as an untrimmed bush I might add). Why bother? Might as well go commando.
I don't ram my thong into my ass crack. I get wedgies a small amount of the time, as do people who wear other styles of underwear. I find them much more comfortable than briefs.
I also don't wear them to be sexy, as I think my ass looks better in any other style. of underwear.
I wished my mom had been more open to discussing shaving/nonshaving options with me when I was a teen. I get horrible razor burn and ingrown hairs from shaving. When I was in high school, I was a gymnast and a diver. Half of my wardrobe necessitated me having to shave daily.
When I was 15, I decided Nair would be easier, so I tried that, didn't follow the directions, and got massive chemical burns all over my crotch.
This is just such a weird thing for people to get worked up over. I do what I want with my pubes, you do what you want. I truly don't get the judging going on with each other's (generic, not you all) pubes.
Except the teen girls shaving it all off. I'm not cool with that.
I have a similar experience with thongs. I don't understand the purpose. Why would you want a piece of fabric right in your crack? It's like half a piece of skimpy underwear (offering the same amount of coverage as an untrimmed bush I might add). Why bother? Might as well go commando.
I've always wondered this. Why exactly do thongs do that makes it any better than wearing nothing at all?
I went to bed last night and came back to this today and I do see why dyermaker made her "slut shaming" comment - because this post turned into "gang up on dyermaker."
To her points:
1) I started shaving my legs when I was in 2nd grade because while my hair was blonde, it was thick, and my older brother called me names like I was bigfoot or something. My mom was horrified when she found out and hid her razer after that. She mainly found out because I then started thinking my hairy arms were gross and started shaving them. And then I didn't know how to pluck eye brows so I started shaving my brows by 4th grade and accidentally took half of one off and my body-hair-shame was exposed.
There is a lot society tells us, even elementary school boys, about girls and body hair, as well as about how a girl's/woman's skin is best if it is smooth as a baby's butt (think old oil of olay, dove soap and other commercials). Removing the hair gets you closer to that state which then means it seems cleaner, like the commercials. It doesn't mean it was ever actually "dirty." Just perception in our minds.
2) There were a couple of girls in my middle school who started their periods in 5th grade and were doing everything (leg/armpit/bikini line shaving) in 6th grade.
3) Thongs were all the rage in my middle school too. NO PANTY LINES!!! was the theme, and people didn't wear panty hose much either because it's hot in Texas, yo. I was one of the first to reject thongs because they shift, and that, well, made me think of wiping back-to-front and how thongs might just not be all that hygienic. It was never a discussion point with anyone. Except mom my mom let me buy them because I didn't want panty lines.
Oh and because of that time I wore full-bottom panties that said, "Hollywood" on the back, but the L's were palm trees. And I was wearing super thin white pants. And a kid followed me around all afternoon calling me Hollywood and I didn't get it until after school was over and we were watching the football team practice. I was mortified.
4) There were middle school kids having sex where I went to school. A girl had a baby in 8th grade. I wasn't having sex. I didn't get my first kiss until my freshman year in high school. But girls were having sex, boys were looking at playboys with clean shaven bushes, and boys would tell girls about shaving which would spread via word. So by the end of 8th grade I, one of the slow ones in this regard, had heard about shaving it all "clean" (or completely off) "down there."
And sou, your disclosure made me choke on my coffee. Thank you!
I get a bikini wax when I need it to wear a bathing suit (and, unfortunately I *do* need it). They are great for that purpose and I love the 2 Swedish sisters who do it for me on Newbury St. I have had a couple of horror show experiences w/ them though elsewhere. And no, never a Brazilian. I hope this becomes less of a thing.
Fun fact - when DH had the big V I shaved his balls for him. That was kind of fun.
When I had J, one of the weirdest things about my baby month board was their obsession with this subject. The number of grown women who said they were getting Brazilians before childbirth not because they wanted to or they preferred it that way but because "they would feel too bad subjecting their doctors to seeing all that pubic hair" was upsetting to me. I'm very much "to each their own" on the subject, but I thought that was so weird. Pretty sure your OB has seen worse than some pubic hair.
The 2 docs in my book club find this alarming - but more and more common.
When I had J, one of the weirdest things about my baby month board was their obsession with this subject. The number of grown women who said they were getting Brazilians before childbirth not because they wanted to or they preferred it that way but because "they would feel too bad subjecting their doctors to seeing all that pubic hair" was upsetting to me. I'm very much "to each their own" on the subject, but I thought that was so weird. Pretty sure your OB has seen worse than some pubic hair.
My OB specifically told me not to wax or (attempt to) shave before labor for basically all the reasons discussed in the OP. Not that I needed a further excuse...
When I had J, one of the weirdest things about my baby month board was their obsession with this subject. The number of grown women who said they were getting Brazilians before childbirth not because they wanted to or they preferred it that way but because "they would feel too bad subjecting their doctors to seeing all that pubic hair" was upsetting to me. I'm very much "to each their own" on the subject, but I thought that was so weird. Pretty sure your OB has seen worse than some pubic hair.
Okay that is sooooooooo weird. Everything down there as you give birth is a fucking freakshow and you think the doctor is all omg, hairy? No.
Post by sparkythelawyer on Dec 1, 2014 11:54:40 GMT -5
I don't think I got a thong until I was in my twenties. And I discovered that I haaaaaated them. Weirdly, I didn't mind the ones that just had the string up my crack, but the thicker/wider ones? That are somehow desgined to obscure the crack but do nothing more? HATE. That is the worst wedgie ever.
I would be having some very frank discussions with my twelve year old daughter if she was donig more than just some light landscaping to make sure she could wear things like bathing suits.
I started shaving years ago because DH wanted to see what it was like. I prefer it and keep up with it, although now I do laser brazilians...low maintenance, little discomfort during and if you like the non-bush look, you can't beat it. No ingrown hairs with it. DH trims his hair from time to time, I don't really care either way but he prefers it neat and trimmed. Where are these hairless balls anyway? I've never encountered them.