R U going to see The Interview? Not at Carmike Cinemas

[zoegirltx]

Apparently Sony is letting theaters drop the movie b/c they have been threatened...

I'm tempted just to go to see the movie to piss off north korea...once small act of FU


www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sony-hack-carmike-cinemas-drops-758444

[IIOY]

Have there been any reviews of this movie? Is it supposed to be terrible? I'm beginning to wonder if this whole thing is the world's most elaborate marketing strategy for a movie that is going to be straight-to-video in an effort to make DVD sales skyrocket. I mean, we're all going to be watching this on DVD to see what the fuss is about, right?

[zoegirltx]

I don't think I've seen a DVD in at least 5+ years.... I assume it will be on Netflix

[heyjude]

Dec 17, 2014 7:46:34 GMT -5 IIOY said:

Have there been any reviews of this movie? Is it supposed to be terrible? I'm beginning to wonder if this whole thing is the world's most elaborate marketing strategy for a movie that is going to be straight-to-video in an effort to make DVD sales skyrocket. I mean, we're all going to be watching this on DVD to see what the fuss is about, right?

Not a rundown, but sort of an international take on how bad it is:

defamer.gawker.com/leaked-emails-the-interview-sucked-for-sony-even-befor-1671234001

And it has a "rotten" score on rotten tomatoes.

[ringstrue]

We go to the movies like once or twice a year max so no this would never make the cut anyway. But we'd probably netflix it at some point.

[pixy0stix]

I wasn't going to go see it cause Franco is a skeevy bastard who likes children.

[ttt]

Dec 17, 2014 7:46:34 GMT -5 IIOY said:

Have there been any reviews of this movie? Is it supposed to be terrible? I'm beginning to wonder if this whole thing is the world's most elaborate marketing strategy for a movie that is going to be straight-to-video in an effort to make DVD sales skyrocket. I mean, we're all going to be watching this on DVD to see what the fuss is about, right?

Didn't internal Sony documents say it was terrible? It certainly looks terrible.

[ijack]

I thought I heard this morning that it wasn't going to be released at theaters at all now.

[Deleted]

I think its just a bad idea. I think if China did a movie about assassinating Obama, with a graphic scene of his head exploding (as is mentioned in the leaked sony emails) there would be an international incident. I say China instead of NK because when reversing the situation, you have to be able to put the USA where NK would be.

I am the last person on earth to defend North Korea. But I still think the movie is a terrible idea in terrible taste and absolutely could have been done with a fictional dictator.

[heyjude]

Dec 17, 2014 11:27:24 GMT -5 ttt said:

Dec 17, 2014 7:46:34 GMT -5 IIOY said:

Have there been any reviews of this movie? Is it supposed to be terrible? I'm beginning to wonder if this whole thing is the world's most elaborate marketing strategy for a movie that is going to be straight-to-video in an effort to make DVD sales skyrocket. I mean, we're all going to be watching this on DVD to see what the fuss is about, right?

Didn't internal Sony documents say it was terrible? It certainly looks terrible.

YES!

See the article I linked above!!

[heyjude]

Dec 17, 2014 11:38:40 GMT -5 @eveer said:

I think its just a bad idea. I think if China did a movie about assassinating Obama, with a graphic scene of his head exploding (as is mentioned in the leaked sony emails) there would be an international incident. I say China instead of NK because when reversing the situation, you have to be able to put the USA where NK would be.

I am the last person on earth to defend North Korea. But I still think the movie is a terrible idea in terrible taste and absolutely could have been done with a fictional dictator.

I totally agree too. I was thinking if Russia made this movie about assassinating Obama...it would be an issue....to say the least.

I just feel that this is an act of incredible hubris on the part of Rogan and Franco. Probably some white male entitlement thrown in there too.

[heyjude]

Premier canceled in NY. More theater chains dropping it:

www.vulture.com/2014/12/sony-cancels-the-interview-new-york.html

[LoveTrains]

I wonder what sort of implications this has for the careers of Rogen & Franco.

[IIOY]

Dec 17, 2014 12:25:51 GMT -5 LoveTrains said:

I wonder what sort of implications this has for the careers of Rogen & Franco.

His entire career is based upon professional assholery, so my guess is none.

[heyjude]

Dec 17, 2014 12:28:26 GMT -5 IIOY said:

Dec 17, 2014 12:25:51 GMT -5 LoveTrains said:

I wonder what sort of implications this has for the careers of Rogen & Franco.

His entire career is based upon professional assholery, so my guess is none.

Not true. Studios won't want to touch an actor who loses money.

[heyjude]

SEQUEL
KIM JONG-UN’S KID GLOVES ARE NOW OFF
BY GORDON G. CHANG12.17.14
Today, the hackers calling themselves Guardians of Peace promised further attacks against Sony Pictures Entertainment. They mentioned a “Christmas gift,” which could mean additional disclosures on Dec. 25 of information stolen from Sony—or something more sinister. The hackers also advertised a terrorist-type attack to coincide with the Christmas release of The Interview, the Seth Rogen-James Franco comedy about the assassination of North Korean leader Kim Jong-Un.

At this time, there is no definitive evidence linking the attack to the North Korean regime, but the escalating threat from the hacking group comes at the same time Pyongyang marked the third anniversary of the death of Kim Jong-Il, Kim Jong-Un’s father and predecessor. Now that the Confucian-inspired mourning period is over, the son is free to embark on his own programs and policies. So perhaps we ain’t seen nothing yet.


The last three years, a period of supposed quiet, have been eventful nonetheless. The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, among other provocative acts, has launched two long-range missiles, detonated a nuclear device, abrogated the Korean War armistice, and threatened to incinerate Austin, Texas.

Kim’s bold acts were also directed inward. The Korean Central News Agency, Pyongyang’s official media outlet, on Monday told us that one of his big accomplishments was the killing of his uncle, Jang Song Thaek, last December. Since then, regime elements have been conducting a nationwide reign of terror, a relentless campaign of executions of the leading figures in Jang’s vast patronage network.


The terrifying purge, which appears to be continuing, has eliminated senior officials who had contact with North Korea’s main supporter, the People’s Republic of China. Tellingly, Beijing was not invited to the regime’s formal commemoration of the end of mourning.

The executions suggest the transition from Kim Jong Il to his youngest acknowledged son has not been completed, and the continuing turmoil indicates even more trouble is ahead. In contrast, the period after the death of Kim Il-Sung, the regime’s founder, was a time of relative quiet. Kim Jong-Il, his son, began his tenure by signing the Agreed Framework, a landmark deal freezing North Korea’s nuclear program, and then he generally refrained from conflict with the international community for more than three years.

Kim Jong-Un, on the other hand, did his best to rile the world just a few months after assuming power—by launching a ballistic missile in April 2012. And then he went on a tear in early 2013, creating one provocation after another, seemingly every day for more than two months.

The late-November hacking of Sony, perhaps the most vicious episode of its kind, comes at the end of the period of mourning. Circumstantial evidence points to the Kim clan. The malware, for instance, was written in Korean. And the code used against Sony was virtually identical to that employed against South Korean media and other businesses in March and June 2013; Seoul traced those attacks to North Korea.

North Korea is more bold than it was last year—it first refused to deny responsibility and then issued a perfunctory it-wasn’t-us. Perhaps more telling, state media called the attack on the studio “a righteous deed.”

If the hackers are in fact linked to North Korea, the new threat may not be as empty as people think.
The remarkable aspect about the Sony hack is that the attackers were not content to merely take down sites and destroy information. They also shared copies of Sony movies—Fury and four unreleased pictures began appearing on peer-to-peer networks—and sensitive information, such as the salaries of 6,000 employees and 17 executives. They even released medical records. And, based on the threats made today, the work of the hackers is far from done.

Now the hackers, with their reference to the 9/11 attacks, suggest they are prepared to kill. If they are in fact linked to North Korea, the threat may not be as empty as people think. Up to now, Kim Jong-Un is not known to have been responsible for the killing of people outside North Korea, although some think he had a hand in the sinking of the Cheonan, a South Korean frigate, in March 2010, a tragedy resulting in the loss of 46 lives. Moreover, the shelling of Yeonpyeong Island in November of that year, which left four dead, may also have been related to the succession of power to him.

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Will the transition of power from one Kim to another become drenched in even more blood? Kim Jong-Un is changing role models, steering Pyongyang away from Chinese autocrats toward the ultra-aggressive Vladimir Putin. That cannot be a good sign.

North Korea, now led by a ruler who has come out of the shadows of his father, looks like it is about to become even more dangerous.

Gordon G. Chang is the author of Nuclear Showdown: North Korea Takes On the World. Follow him on Twitter @gordongchang.

[IIOY]

Dec 17, 2014 12:30:44 GMT -5 heyjude said:

Dec 17, 2014 12:28:26 GMT -5 IIOY said:

His entire career is based upon professional assholery, so my guess is none.

Not true. Studios won't want to touch an actor who loses. money.

Except this isn't a case of people avoiding a movie because they don't like Seth Rogan; it's a completely bizarre, extreme case of politics based upon subject-matter.  If his other movies have made money (and I have no idea whether they have), he will be back.

[heyjude]

Dec 17, 2014 12:34:12 GMT -5 IIOY said:

Dec 17, 2014 12:30:44 GMT -5 heyjude said:

Not true. Studios won't want to touch an actor who loses. money.

Except this isn't a case of people avoiding a movie because they don't like Seth Rogan; it's a completely bizarre, extreme case of politics based upon subject-matter.  If his other movies have made money (and I have no idea whether they have), he will be back.

nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/12/sonys-very-very-expensive-hack.html

Sony stands to lose $150 to $300 million over this hack. Maybe more. The hack is related to this stupid movie. If you don't think there would be some retribution from Hollywood to Rogan and Franco, I don't think you have been reading the haked emails carefully...Hollywood is about money just like any other business and actors are just another expendable cog in the wheel.

[saz]

I just can't even get to the place of understanding how anyone thought this would be ok.

[lyssbobiss, Command, B613]

I had no desire to see it in the first place because Franco is a pretentious untalented dickbag and he and Rogan are nowhere near as funny as they think they are. It's clear they think they are a pair of untouchable dude-bros and they crossed a fucking line. But now I think I'll avoid theaters totally over Christmas. I'm a little weirded out by all of this.

I did hear that the latest theory is thatSony laid off a bunch of people, including IT folks who would have access to this info, and that the hacker is not foreign, but one of those people.

[pixy0stix]

Dec 17, 2014 12:58:17 GMT -5 saz said:

I just can't even get to the place of understanding how anyone thought this would be ok.

I think it would have been ok IF they hadn't actually blown him up at the end. 

I don't know if they actually blow him up at the end, I'm just speculating.

[heyjude]

Dec 17, 2014 13:15:43 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Dec 17, 2014 12:58:17 GMT -5 saz said:

I just can't even get to the place of understanding how anyone thought this would be ok.

I think it would have been ok IF they hadn't actually blown him up at the end. 

I don't know if they actually blow him up at the end, I'm just speculating.

Blown up and his head is lit on fire apparently.

[sharknado]

Has anyone seen Team America or anything else made by the creators of South Park, they are assassinating people all the time.

[heyjude]

Dec 17, 2014 16:01:15 GMT -5 sharknado said:

Has anyone seen Team America or anything else made by the creators of South Park, they are assassinating people all the time.

And.....? Did NK start a cyber war over those movies? No? That's the difference!

Also, those were animation. This is live action. That's another difference.

[josieposy]

Apparently Sony is canceling the release altogether now.

[lyssbobiss, Command, B613]

Dec 17, 2014 17:14:27 GMT -5 josieposy said:

Apparently Sony is canceling the release altogether now.

Oh really?

[josieposy]

Dec 17, 2014 17:18:42 GMT -5 lyssbobiss, Command, B613 said:

Dec 17, 2014 17:14:27 GMT -5 josieposy said:

Apparently Sony is canceling the release altogether now.

Oh really?

News outlets just started reporting it in the last 10-15 min or so.

[heyjude]

In the NPR report I just heard they made it sound like this is probably definitely NK behind this.

[pixy0stix]

The terrorists have won.

[heyjude]

Dec 17, 2014 17:20:23 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

The terrorists have won.

It's probably not being shelved because the threats are credible but because Hollywood doesn't want to lose money on their other big Christmas releases. So really, The Hobbit won.