OH MY GOD I would flip my shit if my immune-compromised child or newborn (if I had either of these) were exposed to measles in the fucking hospital. WTF!?!?!
This is where I'm at. I'm trying to imagine if one of my children was receiving chemo for leukemia and was exposed to measles while in the hospital. Holy shit I would need to be tranquilized.
One of my good friends from law school was one of the AZ moms whose kid was exposed. Her 4 month old premie baby was being seen at the hospital for her significant GI morbidities due to prematurity. She has a compromised immune system (obviously) and now they are supposed to keep a face mask on a 4 month old (ha!) b/c her 2 older siblings are under 5, thus only 1 MMR to date. Oh, and she can't leave the house for 21 days and both parents work outside the home. She is handling it remarkably well. Livid wouldn't begin to describe my emotion.
And yes to the tinfoil hat comment. I really do, in a weird way, feel bad for these people who are too stupid to know who to trust in life. It must be a scary existence to feel like you live in a world where doctors are out to get you. FWIW, my husband is a self-employed pediatrician. I have seen his books. He LOSES money on every vaccine he gives (particularly MMR) b/c the reimbursement doesn't meet his purchase price, let alone the cost of his nurse to administer the shot. Factoring in the fact that he makes a lot of money when patients are hospitalized due to these illnesses, and it is a very bad financial decision for him to recommend/require vaccinations. Yet he does. B/c he is a good person who wants the best for his patients regardless of the negative effect on his bottom line.
The vaccine fight is raging on a local board, with this just posted. I had to share:
"I can tell you with certainty that some Big Pharma marketing team somewhere made a conscious decision to use extreme fear-mongering techniques and pit parents against each other. It is a PR campaign, and that does not make it truth. Ghost writers are paid to write inflammatory pieces. What you are seeing in the media is not at all true journalism."
This is my most favoritest argument EVAR. Yes, the hundreds of pharmaceutical corporations, their subsidiaries AND their competitors, which have a fundamental, financial interest in NOT sharing data or trade secrets are ALL in collusion to convince the American public to vaccinate so they can... make money off of vaccines...? Oh.
My friend who is sane just posted the doctor article. :''''(
I've had a few that I thought were sane post it too. I don't see why people are thinking it is so wonderful and share-worthy because it seemed like the incoherent rants of a madman to me. Maybe I didn't read closely enough?
I had someone post the dr. article today. I knew she was an anti vaxxer and anti medicine in general person though. She is trying to cure her sons type 1 diabetes with food.
My friend who is sane just posted the doctor article. :''''(
I've had a few that I thought were sane post it too. I don't see why people are thinking it is so wonderful and share-worthy because it seemed like the incoherent rants of a madman to me. Maybe I didn't read closely enough?
That doctor says kids should just die instead of getting vaccinated.
"A*, B2, B3, C2, C3, D2, D3, D4, D5, D6, D7, D8, D9, D10, D11, G2, G3, H1, H2 these are all the measles strains that have been identified since 1990. That little * there is the only strain of measles that currently has a vaccine." Their source: www.cdc.gov/measles/lab-tools/genetic-analysis.html Their friend replied "Wait! You're telling me all those people at Disney aren't my fault after all?! It just can't be!" And they replied "Well unless information like this gets shared then no it will still be our "fault" even though we are not the cause"
Her * remark is NOT what the CDC website said. And ncbi is not a reliable source.
Post by 2curlydogs on Jan 30, 2015 13:03:14 GMT -5
Hand to God, people, I have a million co-workers in Phoenix for the SB right now. If one of them comes back with this shit I will cut a bitch. I'm pretty sure S got his MMR at his 1 year but still.
I've had a few that I thought were sane post it too. I don't see why people are thinking it is so wonderful and share-worthy because it seemed like the incoherent rants of a madman to me. Maybe I didn't read closely enough?
That doctor says kids should just die instead of getting vaccinated.
“I’m a big fan of what’s called paleo-nutrition, so our children eat foods that our ancestors have been eating for millions of years…. That’s the best way to protect.” --- UHHH like when life expectancy was 40 years old?
"He said viruses — not vaccines — are a part of the natural world. “Unfortunately, they mean that some people get sick and some people die,” he said. “But the reality is that we can’t inject our children with chemicals.”" --- THIS MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE!!!!!!
The vaccine fight is raging on a local board, with this just posted. I had to share:
"I can tell you with certainty that some Big Pharma marketing team somewhere made a conscious decision to use extreme fear-mongering techniques and pit parents against each other. It is a PR campaign, and that does not make it truth. Ghost writers are paid to write inflammatory pieces. What you are seeing in the media is not at all true journalism."
This is my most favoritest argument EVAR. Yes, the hundreds of pharmaceutical corporations, their subsidiaries AND their competitors, which have a fundamental, financial interest in NOT sharing data or trade secrets are ALL in collusion to convince the American public to vaccinate so they can... make money off of vaccines...? Oh.
I promise that my big, evil pharma company makes waaaaaaay more money off any of the myriad of other drugs we produce than what is pulled in from the vaccines produced.
“I’m a big fan of what’s called paleo-nutrition, so our children eat foods that our ancestors have been eating for millions of years…. That’s the best way to protect.” --- UHHH like when life expectancy was 40 years old?
"He said viruses — not vaccines — are a part of the natural world. “Unfortunately, they mean that some people get sick and some people die,” he said. “But the reality is that we can’t inject our children with chemicals.”" --- THIS MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE!!!!!!
I have nothing against paleo but COME ON NOW. Like meat and vegetables can ward off polio, right? Of course, my kids would rather starve than eat paleo, but I guess that just means they are supposed to die, right? I'm just fighting Darwin and should stop trying?
I'm actually really a fan of Paleo and traditional diets. I incorporate a lot of that philosophy into my diet and cooking. I just don't think of it as a replacement for modern medical advances as much as a compliment to them lol.
I think this guy is trolling us all to raise blood pressure and cause heart attacks and get more cardiology patients.
"Amid this outbreak, Wolfson actively urges people to avoid vaccines. “We should be getting measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox, these are the rights of our children to get it,”"
OH MY GOD I AM DENYING MY CHILDREN THE RIGHT TO BE PARALYZED BY POLIO OR BLINDED BY MEASLES! I AM SUCH A BAD MOM!
“Don’t be mad at me for speaking the truth about vaccines,” Wolfson said in a telephone interview with The Washington Post. “Be mad at yourself, because you’re, frankly, a bad mother."
I've had a few that I thought were sane post it too. I don't see why people are thinking it is so wonderful and share-worthy because it seemed like the incoherent rants of a madman to me. Maybe I didn't read closely enough?
That doctor says kids should just die instead of getting vaccinated.
I'm actually really a fan of Paleo and traditional diets. I incorporate a lot of that philosophy into my diet and cooking. I just don't think of it as a replacement for modern medical advances as much as a compliment to them lol.
I think this guy is trolling us all to raise blood pressure and cause heart attacks and get more cardiology patients.
Oh, I do, too. My children, however, survive off of milk, air, and crackers, so I am reluctant to cut them off from their only food groups. :-)
Well I've recently learned that it is better for them to die than be pumped full of harmful ingredients!
Jack Wolfson, who claims to be a doctor, spreads lies and misinformation.
Dr. Jack Wolfson, DO, who spreads lies and misinformation and threatens public health,was just on Anderson Cooper and he sounds exactly like the heartless, ignorant jackass that he is. AC asked how he'd feel if his children infected another child who later died, and Dr. Jack Wolfson, DO, who spreads lies and misinformation and threatens public health, said "Meh. Don't care". Nice.
Jack Wolfson, who claims to be a doctor, spreads lies and misinformation.
Dr. Jack Wolfson, DO, who spreads lies and misinformation and threatens public health,was just on Anderson Cooper and he sounds exactly like the heartless, ignorant jackass that he is. AC asked how he'd feel if his children infected another child who later died, and Dr. Jack Wolfson, DO, who spreads lies and misinformation and threatens public health, said "Meh. Don't care". Nice.
What an asshole! Why is the media giving him a venue to spread all these bullshit? I think its not currently possible, but I feel like ethically you can't be a doctor and be spouting information that actually endangers the public.
Dr. Jack Wolfson, DO, who spreads lies and misinformation and threatens public health,was just on Anderson Cooper and he sounds exactly like the heartless, ignorant jackass that he is. AC asked how he'd feel if his children infected another child who later died, and Dr. Jack Wolfson, DO, who spreads lies and misinformation and threatens public health, said "Meh. Don't care". Nice.
What an asshole! Why is the media giving him a venue to spread all these bullshit? I think its not currently possible, but I feel like ethically you can't be a doctor and be spouting information that actually endangers the public.
I totally agree about your statement on doctors. It's completely irresponsible and I hope Dr. Jack Wolfson, DO, who spreads lies and misinformation and endangers public health loses his license.
This is my most favoritest argument EVAR. Yes, the hundreds of pharmaceutical corporations, their subsidiaries AND their competitors, which have a fundamental, financial interest in NOT sharing data or trade secrets are ALL in collusion to convince the American public to vaccinate so they can... make money off of vaccines...? Oh.
I promise that my big, evil pharma company makes waaaaaaay more money off any of the myriad of other drugs we produce than what is pulled in from the vaccines produced.
Mine too. (I work for a pharma consulting firm, not an actual pharma/med devices company).