Breaking: TransAsia crash

[darnkatz]

All of these crashes make me never want to step foot on another plane again.

4 February 2015
Last updated at 00:33
TransAsia crash: Eight dead as plane crashes into Taiwan river

At least eight people have died after a TransAsia Airways plane clipped a
bridge and crashed into a river near the Taiwanese capital, Taipei.
Fifty-eight people were onboard the domestic flight, and a number of people were reportedly injured.
Taiwan's Central News Agency (CNA) broadcast footage of the plane almost submerged in the Keelung river.
Rescue teams are alongside the plane trying to rescue about 30 people still trapped inside.
The ATR-72 had just taken off from Taipei Songshan Airport
and was headed to the outlying Kinmen islands, just off the coast of
south-east China, CNA said.
Flight controllers lost contact with the plane at 10:55 local time (02:55 GMT).
Footage of the plane apparently filmed from inside passing
cars showed it banking sharply and clipping the bridge before crashing
into the river.

CNA also quoted a government spokesman as saying the plane had hit an elevated bridge.
Television images showed rescuers standing on large sections
of broken wreckage trying to pull passengers out of the plane with
ropes.

Those that were rescued were helped into dinghies and taken to shore.





CNA also quoted a government spokesman as saying the plane had hit an elevated bridge.
Television images showed rescuers standing on large sections
of broken wreckage trying to pull passengers out of the plane with
ropes.
Those that were rescued were helped into dinghies and taken to shore.
Out of the 58 people on board 53 are believed to be passengers and
five are crew. Thirty-one of the passengers are tourists from mainland
China.


The BBC's Cindy Sui in Taipei says the Chinese tourists could
have been on their way home as many people come to Taiwan through
Kinmen island.


More than 10 people have been taken to hospital, she adds.


In July last year 48 people died when a TransAsia Airways plane crashed amid stormy weather in Taiwan's Penghu archipelago.

[darnkatz]

This picture is unreal.

[MauMau]

The dash cam video is insane! There is a live stream for the scene too.

[summer]

Feb 4, 2015 1:22:34 GMT -5 darnkatz said:

This picture is unreal.

NO! I have nightmares about images like this. This photo makes me feel ill

[origami]

Feb 4, 2015 1:22:34 GMT -5 darnkatz said:

This picture is unreal.

[dulcemariamar]

Holy shit! That is fucking scary. I have been working on my fear of flying and this and the last year has not helped one bit.

[summer]

Feb 4, 2015 3:32:57 GMT -5 origami said:

Feb 4, 2015 1:22:34 GMT -5 darnkatz said:

This picture is unreal.

Right?!?!  No. NO!!!

[teflepi]

I think I am now crossing travel to Asia off of my list. Irrational? Yup, but I don't have a fear of flying and now I am doing the FP faint.

[josieposy]

Woah.

[Velar Fricative]

OMG the pictures!!! Nonononononono

[iammalcolmx]

Wouldn't be me, I don't fuck with Prop planes.

[iammalcolmx]

www.nbcnews.com/news/world/transasia-safety-record-under-scrutiny-after-second-atr72-crash-n299886

I wouldn't be on this airline either.

[IIOY]

Feb 4, 2015 7:45:03 GMT -5 iammalcolmx said:

Wouldn't be me, I don't fuck with Prop planes.

WORD

[katfco]

Up to 23 dead, and some missing. This video has a shorter clip of just the dash cam. As unreal as the picture is, the video is even more so.
www.cnn.com/2015/02/04/asia/taiwan-plane-crash-transasia/index.html

[oliviapope]

That video is fucking terrifying.

[lg28]

Why do airplanes always crash or go missing right before I have to fly somewhere?! Why!!?

[eddy]

I can't keep all of these SE Asia flights straight anymore. WTF is going on.

When I saw this on FB I thought it was the flight that was lost last month. Oh this is a new one? Great

[teengirlsquad]

Oh my gosh!!! This is terrifying.

[charminglife]

That picture makes me sick to my stomach.

[downtoearth]

Wholly cow - did you watch the video? It was almost completely sideways before it clipped the bridge. There must have been some other mechanical/human error issue to get it perpendicular to it's landing direction somehow.

[iammalcolmx]

I need to know what happened exactly. On the pilot forums they say it appears as if they lost the left engine causing and were unable to maintain the speed needed for lift. This airline has had a disproportional number of accidents with this aircraft. I feel bad for any smaller Asian airline right now.

[runblondie26]

Well, the nickname pilots have for the Brasilia is the Brakillya.

ETA: The ATR 72 is a bigger plane, but prop flying is a different beast.

[sparrowsong]

That photo (I won't watch the video) is so like nightmares I've had. I've had a pretty serious flying phobia for about 15 years now. I've had so many nightmares about being in plane crashes and also watching planes crash as a bystander... And they are such realistic dreams they do nothing but deepen my phobia because it's like it has really happened. They experience felt authentic even if it wasn't. I honestly don't know when or if I'll be able to travel again.

[runblondie26]

Feb 4, 2015 12:45:58 GMT -5 @songforyou said:

Goodness . All these crashes on Asian airlines make me think of that chapter in Outliers.

SE Asia has such a hugh demand for pilots, they're really pumping them through the training mill quickly to get them on the line too.

[terpsfan]

Feb 4, 2015 12:44:08 GMT -5 sparrowsong said:

That photo (I won't watch the video) is so like nightmares I've had. I've had a pretty serious flying phobia for about 15 years now. I've had so many nightmares about being in plane crashes and also watching planes crash as a bystander... And they are such realistic dreams they do nothing but deepen my phobia because it's like it has really happened. They experience felt authentic even if it wasn't. I honestly don't know when or if I'll be able to travel again.

Were you ever told what those dreams meant? I don't have a fear of flying (at least I don't think I do) but my most common "bad" dream is watching a plane crash as a bystander. I'm never on the plane, it's always me watching it fall out of the sky. Just curious what they are supposed to mean.. Or maybe deep down I do fear flying!

Anyway, yup this comes straight from my nightmares.

[runblondie26]

Feb 4, 2015 12:55:18 GMT -5 @songforyou said:

Feb 4, 2015 12:50:36 GMT -5 runblondie26 said:

SE Asia has such a hugh demand for pilots, they're really pumping them through the training mill quickly to get them on the line too.

Oh brother.  Do you know why this is?

I wish I knew this before I hopped my happy self on an AirAsia flight year :?.  I'd think I'd be nervous to do that after this year.

Just a really rapid expansion in the airlines over there. DH has gotten cold calls from Asian airlines offering at least 3x what he makes in the states to work there. We're good in the US for now.

[sparrowsong]

The ironic part of my phobia is that my dad was a commercial pilot and I traveled a ton growing up and into my mid 20s. And it's true he was offered positions based in Asia for huge salaries. We jokingly discussed what it what being like living there extremely well off for the area. He never seriously considered it though as we all liked colorado so much.

[sparrowsong]

Feb 4, 2015 12:53:29 GMT -5 terpsfan said:

Feb 4, 2015 12:44:08 GMT -5 sparrowsong said:

That photo (I won't watch the video) is so like nightmares I've had. I've had a pretty serious flying phobia for about 15 years now. I've had so many nightmares about being in plane crashes and also watching planes crash as a bystander... And they are such realistic dreams they do nothing but deepen my phobia because it's like it has really happened. They experience felt authentic even if it wasn't. I honestly don't know when or if I'll be able to travel again.

Were you ever told what those dreams meant? I don't have a fear of flying (at least I don't think I do) but my most common "bad" dream is watching a plane crash as a bystander. I'm never on the plane, it's always me watching it fall out of the sky. Just curious what they are supposed to mean.. Or maybe deep down I do fear flying!

Anyway, yup this comes straight from my nightmares.

No I've never discussed them with a therapist or anything. I know it's typical to develop phobias in ones 20s. I had a couple bad/rough landings and those were followed by nightmares. And then I had another rough flight and that reinforced the fear, and the nightmares. So I never looked for any deeper meaning to it. Just a series of unfortunate experiences at a time in my life when I think my psyche was extra fragile and fearful.

[meshaliuknits]

Feb 4, 2015 9:00:31 GMT -5 lg28 said:

Why do airplanes always crash or go missing right before I have to fly somewhere?! Why!!?

So what you're saying is we need you to stop flying.

[iammalcolmx]

Feb 4, 2015 13:39:44 GMT -5 @mx said:

These pilots had what appear to be a lot of flight hours too. That's what scares me about some of these crashes--especially when they are attributed to pilot error but the pilots are experienced.

I had a hellish flight last year on an African carrier where we had 25 minutes of severe clear air turbulence and the pilots never made an announcement the entire time. Being a flight full of East Africans everyone was screaming and calling on God. I was like what the fuck is going on in the cockpit that objects are literally flying around the cabin and half of your passengers are crying and you any even get on the intercom to say sorry? Like how fucked must we be if you're too busy to communicate?

Did they ever say anything?  Have you flown Emirates? Do they communicate? I am still trying to determine how to get to TZ