Is Frozen Offensive to Men?

[sparrowsong]

Speaking of oppressed white male alerts... FFS

www.9news.com/story/life/2015/02/04/frozen-effect-fox-and-friends-penny-nance/22871457/

KUSA - If you ask most people about their impressions of the hugely popular Disney animated film "Frozen," they'll probably mention the cute dancing snowman, the fact that they can't get "Let It Go" out of their head and the sweet central storyline involving sisterly love.

But if you ask Steve Doocy, one of the hosts of "Fox and Friends," and Penny Young Nance, the CEO of Concerned Women for America, they'll probably tell you they thought the movie was a bit more sinister.


In a more than three minute segment on the early-morning opinion talk show Wednesday, Doocy and Nance discussed what they call the "Frozen Effect." To them, this revolves around one question: Are movies like "Frozen" empowering girls by turning men into fools and villains?


When they presented this idea at the beginning of the segment, they used two clips: one depicting good guy Kristof talking about picking his nose, and the other showing bad guy Prince Hans finally admitting to his dastardly plan.
"They depict men as evil and cold and bumblers," Nance said in a segment. "It's not just Disney. It's Hollywood in general that has often sent the message that men are superfluous, they're stupid, they're in the way, if they contribute anything to the family, it's a paycheck."


It's worth noting that much of the last 20 or so minutes of "Frozen" involves Kristof racing across a frozen lake to save Anna. Regardless, Nance says she feels uncomfortable taking her son to see it.
"We want them to know that they're essential. We want to raise real men," Nance goes on to say. "We don't want to empower women at the cost of tearing down men."


Next, during her in-depth analysis of the anti-men messages in a popular Disney film, Nance unironically segues to a different topic: the Aurora theater shooting.
"I was just looking back to Aurora, Colorado, and this great guy named Joe Blunk, the guy that threw his body over his girlfriend … and took a bullet and saved her life," Nance said. "We want to raise real men. We want to encourage masculinity and not villainize masculinity."
Doocy went on to agree with Nance, adding "It would be nice to have more male figures in those kinds of movies. Strong male figures."


To be fair, "Frozen" is not the first movie or TV show to be met with criticism that it presents anti-male stereotypes. "Family Guy," "Modern Family," "The Hangover," "Orange is the New Black" and Homer Simpson have all been the subject of similar critiques.
You can watch the full "Fox and Friends" segment below:

[penguingrrl]

Oh come on! We finally get a wildly popular Disney movie that doesn't portray the princess as a weak woman dependent on a man to save her and this is the reaction?

[ksun]

Why weren't they all over this when Brave came out? Brave sends a far stronger message about a woman not needing any man to be successful.

[eponinepontmercy]

It's a shame that Disney can't make a movie with a female villain.

OH WAIT THAT WAS ALMOST ALL THE OTHERS.

[laurenpetro]

some would say Frozen is offensive to everyone....

[picksthemusic]

Um, Kristoff was talking about Prince Hans picking his nose (asking Ana how well she really knew Prince Hans), not admitting he himself picks his nose. Geez, at least get the facts straight.

ETAL I wrote my response before reading the entire article... and OMG. I just can't with this shit. Seriously?

[One Girl In All The World]

Oh, these poor unfortunate souls.

[omgzombies]

Well I wasn't a huge fan of the "He's a Fixer-Upper" song, and I'll agree that the bumbling father is a very pervasive stereotype in our media right now, but no Frozen's Kristof is still a perfectly fine male character, and he doesn't bumble around foolishly through the whole movie. This gets a rather large eye roll from me.

[darnkatz]

[ESF]

I haven't seen Frozen so I have no thoughts on that.

Steve Doocy might be the stupidest person in America, and that is saying a lot, especially this week, when there are a lot of contenders.

But Hollywood shovels the bumbling-man and controlling-woman plot all the god damn time. I have a hard time believing Frozen is a particularly egregious example of this, though.

[eponinepontmercy]

Feb 4, 2015 16:46:53 GMT -5 sparrowsong said:

"They depict men as evil and cold and bumblers," Nance said in a segment. "It's not just Disney. It's Hollywood in general that has often sent the message that men are superfluous, they're stupid, they're in the way, if they contribute anything to the family, it's a paycheck."

For the thousandth time, who is writing and producing and directing and funding and distributing these films?  It's not like the ladies have a lot of representation in the executive offices of the entertainment industry.

[josieposy]

Are people actually getting dumber, or do they just have louder and bigger microphones?

[darnkatz]

Feb 4, 2015 16:56:08 GMT -5 One Girl In All The World said:

Oh, these poor unfortunate souls.

We never have women acting as villains or airheads in movies. Nope. It's always strong roles.

[heyjude]

How many of the best picture oscar noms are about the stories of men? All of them? Okay then. Shut up.

[NewOrleans]

No we should not be encouraging masculinity. We should not be encouraging social gender constructs at all.

[jojoandleo]

Wait, so are they trying to tell me men AREN'T superfluous and stupid? Damn. Maybe a man CAN be president, then! And congressional representatives, too! Thank you, Fox. You have shown me the errors of my Disney brainwashing.

[mbcdefg]

I know someone who says that she doesn't believe in feminism because she wants her son to learn that he should open a door for a lady when he grows up.

FEMINISM IS THE REASON WHY YOU'RE ABLE TO READ AND WRITE AND PUBLICLY EXPRESS THAT OPINION, numnuts.

[NewOrleans]

And the example of the man throwing himself over his girlfriend in the movie theater to save her does not work. He is not a hero because he was A man sacrificing his life for a woman. He was a hero because he was sacrificing his life for another person in the first place, thinking of another before himself and acting quickly under horrifying duress. These are not masculine qualities.

[curbsideprophet]

Seriously? Some people have too much time on their hands.

[UMaineTeach]

I do get annoyed at the bumbling male role, especially when the man is a father and the bumbling involves the children.

though, somehow I equate do "promoting masculinity" with "just bringing home a paycheck"

[sparrowsong]

Does Frozen pass the Bechdel test? Anna and elsa do have conversations about stuff other than men and marriage. So one movie in a hundred isn't man-centric and they're all "omg think of the fragile boys who won't grow up to be real men!"

[gault]

This is so laughable.

[cattledogkisses]

If only there were some movies out there with strong masculine roles! Oh wait.

[Deleted]

Im a man. I saw Frozen. I was not offended. I just thought it was boring lol.

But even if it was offensive to men, that would be a small blip in the usual landscape.

[runforrest]

My eyes just rolled out of my head.

When will the oppression of the white man stop?!?!

Lol.