Ok, be honest

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Aug 8, 2012 22:33:15 GMT -5 @natariru said:

Not to mention, I didn't modify anything you said. I removed part of the quote. Everything you wanted to say is there.

There is a thread about modifying quotes on the mod board. Maybe you should check it out.

I really think that maybe you need to get some rest and reread this all in the morning, because you just aren't getting this - unless I read the incorrect post regarding modifying quotes on the Mod board. If that is the case, please point it out, because I am happy to admit when I am wrong and made a mistake.

The post that I just found on the Mod board regarding modifying a quote is specific to an OP who says "Do not quote me" and then gets quoted. In that thread, it is agreed that the moderator can delete the quoted text in the post at the request of the OP (the original person who was quoted).

This means that if a poster said don't quote me and then I quoted her, you can delete my quote at her request.

But please read the next sentence carefully, because you don't seem to ge getting this. At all. I did not quote the person who asked to not be quoted. I quoted House's words. House's words were her own words and not anyone else's. House did not ask to not be quoted.

You went in and deleted an entire post by House, which was a post of entirely her own words. You were not deleting a quote at the request of the OP who was quoted, which is what is discussed in the Mod thread. Then you went and deleted the part of my post that was quoting HOUSE, who did not ask to not be quoted, so again, you were not deleting or modifying a quote at the request of the OP.

I am kind of baffled about why you don't just say, whoops, I goofed and instead keep coming back and arguing about this.

Again, if I looked at the wrong post on the Mod board about modifying quotes, please let me know and I will happily find the other post that you are referring to. It was just really weird to come back to a post and see an entire post by House deleted and then my quote of House deleted. The other post that disappeared was expected to do so as the OP stated she would DD and didn't want to be quoted.

And I am buzzed right now, so please excuse any misspellings or nonsensical sentences.

[bimbi284]

I could be wrong, GD, but I *think* the issue here is actually that the messages House quoted about her concerns about a seller were from PMs (Private messages), and not just a random thread for all to see.

So, since the original content was meant for a private message between only house and FCG, I can see why it was maybe deleted, since it was originally meant to be private anyway. Even if it IS only house's words, it was still from a private message to FCG, and NOT a public thread.

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Aug 8, 2012 23:31:12 GMT -5 bimbi284 said:

I could be wrong, GD, but I *think* the issue here is actually that the messages House quoted about her concerns about a seller were from PMs (Private messages), and not just a random thread for all to see.

So, since the original content was meant for a private message between only house and FCG, I can see why it was maybe deleted, since it was originally meant to be private anyway. Even if it IS only house's words, it was still from a private message to FCG, and NOT a public thread.

Maybe, but that's not what Renata is saying. Also, if that is the case, it's not one of the situations where mods are allowed to delete or modify. And, seriously, it would be a little (actually, a lot) Big Brotherish and crazy if a poster can't say, hey, I told you X, Y, and Z in response to a direct comment specifically about that conversation.

Renata, I'm seriously not mad at you and not even mad over the original deleting. What has me baffled and getting all argumentative is all of your argumentative responses and also snarky comments like it being common courtesy to not quote someone who asks to not be quoted when that is not at all what happened.

I'm going to try to not open this post again. Which isn't going to happen. But I really, truly am going to try to not respond again so this will be put to rest. lol.

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Aug 8, 2012 23:44:15 GMT -5 @akuzreve said:

Yeah, I can see why Renata modified it considering it had private information and the poster it was about wasn't comfortable with it being posted. Besides, both House and FCG DD'ed their posts so....

I can't help it!!

It turns out that House did not DD. Her entire post was completely deleted, which she did not request. * Also, there was no private information in House's post about anyone else. House put stars in the place of identifying information. I have absolutely no idea who they were referring to.

* Edited by Dawgs to remove the offending language, lol

[aaxoxo75]

Aug 8, 2012 17:06:42 GMT -5 tinybride said:

Oy Vey.

House I didn't read any past comments you made but in regards to the Kare comment, like quite a few people I didn't see anything wrong with it. What I've learned after many years on the nest is that once you rub someone the wrong way that someone most likely doesn't forget, will pick apart everything you have to say and stay on you like white on rice.

I think you should just stop apologizing now. You can't please everyone and you're just going to drive yourself crazy. As long as you aren't being a bitchy snatchdragon just be you-given you is being considerate of others. Again there is always going to be someone that doesn't like you. The nice thing about the internet is that you don't have to care if it's them in the wrong. Just click the little red x on the right hand side and they don't exist anymore. It's really that easy.

:Y: :Y: :Y: :Y: totally agree with Tiny

[aaxoxo75]

I really dont know about the other comments House made before, but I do believe she didnt mean to be rude. If she took the time, energy and humbleness to ask what was wrong with her is becuase she really cares about hurting people feelings.

I considered myself a "normal" person, meaning I never had a problem gettting along with people, on the contrary, I am a very friendly and funny person, and yes I can be sarcastic at times but I treat people with respect. However for some reason when I first came to the boards I didnt have a "nice" beginning. I remember someone making a comment about my happy faces, and I got called a stage 5 clinger too( Funny part was that I had to googled it to find out what it meant as English is not my 1st language and didnt remember the quote from the movie).

What I am saying is that sometimes things are taken in a wrong way, or out of context which happens all the time at any forums, plus few people here can be snarky without a reason, luckily I would say the majority of the ladies here are very nice.

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Aug 9, 2012 0:10:40 GMT -5 aaxoxo75 said:

However for some reason when I first came to the boards I didnt have a "nice" beginning. I remember someone making a comment about my happy faces . . .

What I am saying is that sometimes things are taken in a wrong way, or out of context which happens all the time at any forums, plus few people here can be snarky without a reason, luckily I would say the majority of the ladies here are very nice.

LOL, I remember that! I'm glad you stuck around! ha

Message boards can suck sometimes. It's so weird how much it differs from IRL interaction and tends to have so much more drama. Overall, though, I agree that most of the girls here are very nice.

[bimbi284]

Aug 8, 2012 23:53:13 GMT -5 @godawgs said:

Aug 8, 2012 23:44:15 GMT -5 @akuzreve said:

Yeah, I can see why Renata modified it considering it had private information and the poster it was about wasn't comfortable with it being posted. Besides, both House and FCG DD'ed their posts so....

I can't help it!!

It turns out that House did not DD. Her entire post was completely deleted, which she did not request. (She sent me a PM just to say, uh, I didn't delete that). Also, there was no private information in House's post about anyone else. House put stars in the place of identifying information. I have absolutely no idea who they were referring to.

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I don't think it is about the content of the message per se, but the fact that the message was supposed to be PRIVATE. I could have sent a PM to fcg that says "I like peas", and if I then posted my quoted message to FCG on the public forum, I would still be in the wrong, because it was a private convo between me and fcg, and maybe she didn't want the whole board knowing I was talking to her about peas.

That said, I also don't think its right that you publicly mentioned that house sent you a PRIVATE message, and then tell us the gist of what she privately told you.

[aaxoxo75]

Aug 9, 2012 0:14:52 GMT -5 @godawgs said:

Aug 9, 2012 0:10:40 GMT -5 aaxoxo75 said:

However for some reason when I first came to the boards I didnt have a "nice" beginning. I remember someone making a comment about my happy faces . . .

What I am saying is that sometimes things are taken in a wrong way, or out of context which happens all the time at any forums, plus few people here can be snarky without a reason, luckily I would say the majority of the ladies here are very nice.

LOL, I remember that! I'm glad you stuck around! ha

Message boards can suck sometimes. It's so weird how much it differs from IRL interaction and tends to have so much more drama. Overall, though, I agree that most of the girls here are very nice.

HEHE yes I am still here, I remember you were one of the people that came to my "rescue" haha, but since that day I kind of holding on my happy faces ;D

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Aug 9, 2012 0:17:23 GMT -5 bimbi284 said:

Aug 8, 2012 23:53:13 GMT -5 @godawgs said:

I can't help it!!

It turns out that House did not DD. Her entire post was completely deleted, which she did not request. (She sent me a PM just to say, uh, I didn't delete that). Also, there was no private information in House's post about anyone else. House put stars in the place of identifying information. I have absolutely no idea who they were referring to.

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I don't think it is about the content of the message per se, but the fact that the message was supposed to be PRIVATE. I could have sent a PM to fcg that says "I like peas", and if I then posted my quoted message to FCG on the public forum, I would still be in the wrong, because it was a private convo between me and fcg, and maybe she didn't want the whole board knowing I was talking to her about peas.

That said, I also don't think its right that you publicly mentioned that house sent you a PRIVATE message, and then tell us the gist of what she privately told you.

Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree there, because I think if I tell you that I like peas in a PM, there is nothing wrong with me coming on here and saying, "I told Bimbi in a PM that I like peas." ESPECIALLY if you posted publicly on here that I told you something really rude about peas that offends you, and the only reason for my post of my PM was to ask how "I like peas" is offensive. Now, if I said, "Bimbi told me in a PM that peas suck, so I told her I like peas" that is a different situation because I'm outing you on something you said privately. It was also made very clear and was undisputed that the messages sent by House were unsolicited and from what I can tell, possibly not even responded to, so it was truly no reflection at all on the person she was messaging.

House's PM that she posted didn't give any info at all about anything that was said to her by FCG or FCG's opinion on the issue, so I personally think it is fair game to post that. But I get what you are saying and see why you might think that, and simply disagree. And I'm pretty sure that the GBCN gods are okay with individual boards diverting from the general mod guidelines, so if the S&B board feels that under no circumstance should anything from a PM be posted publically or that any party to the conversation can ask that any discussion of a PM conversation be deleted, then I imagine that's fine. I personally think it's silly and overreaching, but it's also not up to me

And regarding whether or not I should have stated what House told me in a PM - maybe I shouldn't have. There are reasons I felt pretty certain that she wouldn't care if I posted it, and if she actually does care then she is more than welcome to let me know. If find out that I was incorrect in my assessment that she wouldn't care at all, then I will be truly sorry that I posted that info. Although I'll be really, really surprised if she cares.

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Also, Bimbi, I hope you realize that I just enjoy a debate and that I'm not intending to be bitchy with you. I think that what you are saying on both issues are good points and make sense, but I just don't agree

If the reason House's post was deleted and my quote of House's post was deleted was only because it contained text from a private message, then I was not getting that at all from what was being told to me and thought the reason was based on a complete misunderstanding about who was being quoted. So this may have been a misunderstanding on my part.

[bimbi284]

Oh I know GD, no worries there. I do think it was a misunderstanding and iffy communication due to the internets more than anything. I think natariru handled the situation well with her limited mod know-how since she JUST started as a mod. I would have done the same thing, TBH.

[eightangryreindeer]

:-|

[eightangryreindeer]

Aug 9, 2012 11:28:50 GMT -5 @booby said:

i think your baubble necklaces are on to tight, ladies.

NO.SHIT.

[underwaterrhymes]

Aug 9, 2012 11:28:50 GMT -5 @booby said:

i think your baubble necklaces are on to tight, ladies.

For REAL.

[bliss]

Aug 8, 2012 18:09:35 GMT -5 @godawgs said:

Aug 8, 2012 17:06:42 GMT -5 tinybride said:

What I've learned after many years on the nest is that once you rub someone the wrong way that someone most likely doesn't forget, will pick apart everything you have to say and stay on you like white on rice.

Unfortunately, this is soooo true. And it can go on for years. There are a couple of girls that I finally learned I just have to ignore because no matter what I say or do, we are just not going to get along.

I have to totally agree. It's obnoxious.

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Aug 9, 2012 11:49:20 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

I don't see the point of an OOTD if everyone is just going to blow smoke 24/7.

Right??

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HA, HA, I was waiting for this shit to get linked on other boards

[glendi]

Aug 9, 2012 11:52:33 GMT -5 @virginiablue said:

Aug 9, 2012 11:49:20 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

I don't see the point of an OOTD if everyone is just going to blow smoke 24/7.

Right??

Seriously! A thicker skin may need to be put on some gals' fall must-buy lists...

[copzgirl1171]

Aug 9, 2012 11:49:20 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

I don't see the point of an OOTD if everyone is just going to blow smoke 24/7.

Play nice Lucy, everyone always looks fabulous and to say anything else isn't what S&B is about.

*blows on Sally Hansen polished nail and wipes on Target shirt*

[amandasw]

Aug 9, 2012 11:49:20 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

I don't see the point of an OOTD if everyone is just going to blow smoke 24/7.

thank you!

[pixy0stix]

Aug 9, 2012 12:25:14 GMT -5 @copzgirl1171 said:

Aug 9, 2012 11:49:20 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

I don't see the point of an OOTD if everyone is just going to blow smoke 24/7.

Play nice Lucy, everyone always looks fabulous and to say anything else isn't what S&B is about.

*blows on Sally Hansen polished nail and wipes on Target shirt*

I'm trying to remember the last time you posted a picture of yourself, copz, on the boards.

It takes guts to post a picture of your outfit every day. If people were ragging on everyone all the time then no one would post. Personally, I'm glad that the OOTD posts don't turn into a raging bitchfest all the time.

[lovedan]

Aug 8, 2012 21:38:47 GMT -5 @natariru said:

FCG specifically asked not to be quoted, she also had private messages shared in a post. You quoted before the post was removed.

I'm trying to keep the peace and clearly can't keep everyone happy.

If House wants to REPOST her private messages to FCG, by all means, go ahead. But I was asked to delete FCG's posts (she prefaced them by saying she was going to delete) so I did.

Let's not turn this into a bigger issue than it needs to be. I have no problem turning the mod title over to someone else. It's been one week since I took over for SMo and I could give 2 shits.

You and cab are painfully lame. For real. You guys are the worst.

[tinybride]

I agree with you Pixy and also Amanda. I'd like for the board to stay pretty much snark free, but at the same time too much smoke blowing gets silly over time. A lot of posters have good style and I like a lot of the outfits but I've also seen some stuff where I'm like "dude, no". The OOTD thread is not really intended for critique, but of course a poster must realize by posting on a public forum they are opening yourself to positive or negative feedback. I can't speak for everyone but normally if one of us wants opinions on a certain outfit or purchase we make a seperate thread for it.

[amandasw]

Aug 9, 2012 12:52:32 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Aug 9, 2012 12:25:14 GMT -5 @copzgirl1171 said:

Play nice Lucy, everyone always looks fabulous and to say anything else isn't what S&B is about.

*blows on Sally Hansen polished nail and wipes on Target shirt*

I'm trying to remember the last time you posted a picture of yourself, copz, on the boards.

It takes guts to post a picture of your outfit every day. If people were ragging on everyone all the time then no one would post. Personally, I'm glad that the OOTD posts don't turn into a raging bitchfest all the time.

I feel like there is a happy medium here - people could give constructive feedback, no one has to be mean about it. But I guess I assume people who post in OOTD are trying to be stylish, show off what they put together and like a fashion blogger, would accept criticism. I don't post in OOTD because (like I said earlier) my outfits on a daily basis aren't really fashion statements because I work in a lab. It seems pointless to me to constantly post another jeans, flats and tshirt outfit. But maybe I'm misinterpreting the point of OOTD.

[copzgirl1171]

Aug 9, 2012 12:52:32 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Aug 9, 2012 12:25:14 GMT -5 @copzgirl1171 said:

Play nice Lucy, everyone always looks fabulous and to say anything else isn't what S&B is about.

*blows on Sally Hansen polished nail and wipes on Target shirt*

I'm trying to remember the last time you posted a picture of yourself, copz, on the boards.

It takes guts to post a picture of your outfit every day. If people were ragging on everyone all the time then no one would post. Personally, I'm glad that the OOTD posts don't turn into a raging bitchfest all the time.

Fair enough. I lurk all the time but I fear being outted because of the man, but this is one of those boards where you know you are either in or out.

I have zero sense of style but there are times I even look at the OOTD and know it just isn't working.

Maybe I misunderstand the OOTD but I thought it was to critique the outfit.

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I do FOTD fairly often and OOTD rarely, but for me the reason I do FOTD is to share ideas and products I use and see what other people do to get ideas. That said, if someone has some suggestions or constructive criticism, it doesn't bother me. People have given me constructive criticism on my makeup, and I've appreciated it.

I think I'm probably more sensitive about OOTD, though, mostly because it's sooooo hard to find cute outfits when you are plus size. Plus, even though I'm pretty confident, I think any bigger girl is going to have at least a bit of insecurity over how they look in clothes compared to all the other size 4's who participate. So I know my personal preference is that people be gentle about any constructive criticism in OOTD. I also don't want smoke blown up my ass, though.

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Aug 9, 2012 13:12:24 GMT -5 loonylunalovegood said:

Aug 9, 2012 0:40:04 GMT -5 @godawgs said:

I just want to point out that this is exactly why people don't like you. You just don't stop. If you would've dropped your issues, which aren't ever really issues to begin with, this thread would've died. Now you've pissed off people who weren't even pissed at you to begin with.

I actually think there are various reasons why some people don't like me. Ha. But thank you so much for coming out of lurking to take the time to let me know that you don't like me. LOL.

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Aug 9, 2012 13:50:00 GMT -5 loonylunalovegood said:

Lurking? Uh thanks. I used to be a reg here long before you showed up.

I know who you are, but you are a pretty infrequent poster on this board. And, uh, pat on the back that you used to be a reg I guess.

[pixy0stix]

Aug 9, 2012 13:23:17 GMT -5 @copzgirl1171 said:

Fair enough. I lurk all the time but I fear being outted because of the man, but this is one of those boards where you know you are either in or out.

I have zero sense of style but there are times I even look at the OOTD and know it just isn't working.

Maybe I misunderstand the OOTD but I thought it was to critique the outfit.

You're either in or out if you participate or not. I rarely, if ever, post in OOTD because 1) my style is pretty boring from day to day, and 2) my husband has boycotted taking pictures and I can't get the phone to stay balanced on the toilet at work (I'm scared it's going to fall in). I really just need to invest in a full length mirror ($10 at Target!). BUT, people know who I am and I'm not ostracized because I don't post in OOTD. My FOTD pictures aren't all that hot, either.

OOTD is to post a picture of what you're wearing. What people want to do with it beyond that is up to them. Most people take style inspiration, or notes or what have you. I didn't realize OOTD was such a complicated concept. Maybe I'm just doing it wrong.