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Job Offer Negotiations - MM Lawyers Help Mar 3, 2015 19:54:43 GMT -5

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Post by v on Mar 3, 2015 19:54:43 GMT -5

Congratulations! It sounds like you're leaning towards taking it?

These questions may or may not apply to your situation, and some are easier to ask than others, but I would want to know:

- Billable hour requirements, what happens if you don't make your hours (it is fine? will you be on double secret probation? not eligible for bonus/raise? fired?), and what happens if you exceed hours expectations (extra bonus? pat on back?)

- Billable credit for networking/client development/pro bono/articles/speaking engagements?

- Average billable hours of the firm (to assess how realistic it is to make your hours, health of the firm, and lifestyle)

- What you would get for origination

- Raises

- Support staff/resources

- The firm's growth plan

- As an associate, will you be working on cases with a partner, or will you be expected to run them yourself?

- What a typical workweek looks like (how many hours in office, how much court (if applicable), how much local travel, how much non-local travel

- I'm not sure what size your current firm is, but at a 3 person firm I imagine it is particularly important to really like your coworkers. So I'd try to get as much intel on them/their reputations as you possibly can. Do you know anyone who knows them?

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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 20:01:08 GMT -5

Yes, I'm leaning towards it. I'm not sure if it's private practice I hate or just my current firm. It would also allow me to diversify more into transactional work, which appeals if I decide I want to leave law altogether.

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WinterWine Full Member Posts: 1,438 Likes: 884	Job Offer Negotiations - MM Lawyers Help Mar 3, 2015 20:22:14 GMT -5 via Tapatalk Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by WinterWine on Mar 3, 2015 20:22:14 GMT -5 I have no advice on most of it, but I'd counter with 3 weeks vacay since that's what you currently have. And congratulations on the offer!!
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jerseyjaybird Full Member Posts: 2,356 Likes: 1,851	Job Offer Negotiations - MM Lawyers Help Mar 3, 2015 20:54:12 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jerseyjaybird on Mar 3, 2015 20:54:12 GMT -5 No advice, but I'm SO FREAKING EXCITED FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
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Job Offer Negotiations - MM Lawyers Help Mar 3, 2015 21:17:56 GMT -5 via Tapatalk

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Post by hockeywife on Mar 3, 2015 21:17:56 GMT -5

I'm at a small suburban firm that has grown a lot in the two years that I've been here.

I'd want to know the following:

Support staff. Does the firm have them and can you utilize them. I went from having a lot to a little support staff and it was an adjustment.

Billable requirement. How many hours and what's included. I'm a trusts and estates attorney, but at my last firm I ended up doing quite a bit of real estate, which was a time suck and didn't count toward my billable requirement. (They were unrealistic assholes)

Rainmaking. Are they expecting you to bring a large client base with you? If so, how much time are they expecting you to have to support them and their clients? Conversely, if they aren't expecting you to bring a bunch of clients with you, I'd want to be sure that they have enough work to keep you busy and enable you to hit your billable requirement.

Congrats on the offer!!!

Oh and definitely negotiate the extra week vacation.

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Deleted Posts: 0	Job Offer Negotiations - MM Lawyers Help Mar 3, 2015 22:01:11 GMT -5 via Tapatalk Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 22:01:11 GMT -5 I have nothing to add bc I'm not a lawyer except Yayyyyyyyy! Picture the Kermit waving his arms around .gif here
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raangoli Elder Posts: 17,235 Likes: 18,910	Job Offer Negotiations - MM Lawyers Help Mar 4, 2015 0:00:14 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by raangoli on Mar 4, 2015 0:00:14 GMT -5 YAYAYAYAY!! That is all I have to add, too.
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