Scandal?

[charminglife]

Anyone watching? I'm not sure how I feel about this episode.

[orangeblossom]

I am. I've seen a lot of people on my FB feed say the same thing.

I like it. It's speaking the truth. It shows the lines that some many black people have to straddle, between helping your people and being seen as a sellout.

The thought that you as a person of color, must show respect and deference to an officer. I'm not saying you shouldn't, just this expectation in the scene with the officer csn and does exist.

[charminglife]

I'm struggling with how the activist character was portrayed as more of an instigator. I also didn't like the scene in the station when the officer went off - I would have loved someone to challenge him instead of allowing the audience to interpret. I feel like this show is never subtle and this wasn't the time to start.

I did choke up at the end when Clarence met with Fitz.

[orangeblossom]

Mar 5, 2015 22:09:19 GMT -5 charminglife said:

I'm struggling with how the activist character was portrayed as more of an instigator. I also didn't like the scene in the station when the officer went off - I would have loved someone to challenge him instead of allowing the audience to interpret. I feel like this show is never subtle and this wasn't the time to start.

I did choke up at the end when Clarence met with Fitz.

Meh, it's a show that's going to take creative license, and I'm sure for many people did see the activists in Ferguson as instigators, and let's face it, some "organizers" can do more harm than good.

To me the scene in the station, again, reflected the truth that some people and some officers feel like, if they'd just not done xyz, if they'd just answered questions when stopped, if they just, just.

I'm really not trying to be combative, but what was portrayed can and does happen, and sometimes the truth hurts.

[charminglife]

Mar 5, 2015 22:15:45 GMT -5 orangeblossom said:

Mar 5, 2015 22:09:19 GMT -5 charminglife said:

I'm struggling with how the activist character was portrayed as more of an instigator. I also didn't like the scene in the station when the officer went off - I would have loved someone to challenge him instead of allowing the audience to interpret. I feel like this show is never subtle and this wasn't the time to start.

I did choke up at the end when Clarence met with Fitz.

Meh, it's a show that's going to take creative license, and I'm sure for many people did see the activists in Ferguson as instigators, and let's face it, some "organizers" can do more harm than good.

To me the scene in the station, again, reflected the truth that some people and some officers feel like, if they'd just not done xyz, if they'd just answered questions when stopped, if they just, just.

I'm really not trying to be combative, but what was portrayed can and does happen, and sometimes the truth hurts.

No worries, you're not combative. I should look on the bright side - this was an explosive storyline and they did a good job. I'm just being nitpicky.

[Deleted]

Not related to this episodes story line but why does Mellie think she's qualified to be president? It seems kind of ridiculos

[summer]

There was something off about it to me.  It was all too, I don't know.....obvious?  There was something missing.  

[secretlyevil]

I don't know. I agree with summer. It was good and yet something about it bugged me. I admit I got misty eyed at the end at the Clarence/Fitz meeting.

[secretlyevil]

Mar 5, 2015 22:30:16 GMT -5 @bk said:

Not related to this episodes story line but why does Mellie think she's qualified to be president? It seems kind of ridiculos

she's Hilary dontcha know.

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Mar 6, 2015 7:26:45 GMT -5 secretlyevil said:

Mar 5, 2015 22:30:16 GMT -5 @bk said:

Not related to this episodes story line but why does Mellie think she's qualified to be president? It seems kind of ridiculos

she's Hilary dontcha know.

Without the experience and qualifications!

[Black Lavender]

Mar 6, 2015 5:29:57 GMT -5 summer said:

There was something off about it to me.  It was all too, I don't know.....obvious?  There was something missing.  

I'm here too...when it was over I was like, wait a minute, did I miss something? I enjoyed how they tackled the topic and on a lighter note I was happy that Fitz finally had Mellie's back

[summer]

Jake is clearly on the way out since she basically "Bye Felicia"'d him, though I'm not sure why? Is this going to be a new Liv now? She was wearing black the whole episode. Very un-Liv like.

[borinquen57]

I really liked this episode a lot! I'm pretty loyal to Scandal but the whole Liv-kidnapping storyline was pretty ridiculous and I was watching just to watch, but this was probably the best episode in a VERY long time IMO. It was pretty obvious to me how it would play out (there was no way they'd kill Clarence/Courtney B. Vance) but I thought it made really good, important points as a whole. As much as I hated the cop's hateful monologue, I thought it was very powerful in showing that mindset that some covert, racist-"light" types tiptoe around. The scene with Clarence and Fitz was also very moving for me.

On a lighter note, it felt good to see Mellie and Fitz be on the same team. I'm Team Olitz all day but I like Mellie's character. I felt so bad for the VP they were scouting. She's so clueless but nice, and you can't help but feel bad that they're trying to use her.

[iammalcolmx]

I LOLed when that dude read Liv. I liked the episode and cried at the end.

[thejackpot]

I liked it. I am probably going to watch it again. I really liked the father's anguish and anger. It felt very authentic. The way the officer went off was great, you always want to get into the mindset and they captured the crazy thoughts of the officers who have disdain for the communities they patrol.

[summer]

Mar 6, 2015 16:51:09 GMT -5 thejackpot said:

I liked it. I am probably going to watch it again. I really liked the father's anguish and anger. It felt very authentic. The way the officer went off was great, you always want to get into the mindset and they captured the crazy thoughts of the officers who have disdain for the communities they patrol.

But for me that was the part that bothered me the most.  It doesn't seem believable that someone would just spew all of that out like that.  Maybe bits of it? I don't know.  I felt like that part was poorly written.  Or just too convenient or something.  

And you all know I LURVES me some Kerry Washington and I know this is a topic near and dear to her heart personally IRL, but her acting was lacking in this episode.  Courtney B. Vance was amazing though. 

[saz]

I really liked some aspects of it, I'm glad they covered the topic, and I liked the story. Something about it seemed a little off though.. I feel like the episodes usually flow together and continue telling a story, and this one felt like it didn't flow with the rest. I think it seemed like they didn't do a strong enough job integrating it into the existing story lines- the way they did that felt like a rushed after thought. It felt like they just really wanted to address this topic and tried to fit it in. That feeling was distracting to me.