That was on my FB too, but no one blamed the kids. Whether or not they realized it was a war memorial, parents shouldn't let their kids climb on art either, unless it's explicitly stated it's interactive.
Every time I look at that picture I get angrier, just imagining the parents. "Hey, kids, this is a great place to take a picture! Look at this cool statue. Sure, just climb up there so we can snap the picture. Little Susie, can't get up? Well, use the leg of the wounded and dying soldier who represents all the men killed in the war to boost yourself up."
And then I imagine what I would have said if it had been my children, but then I realize my children would never have gotten that far because they, and we, have sense.
Someone I know posted this and said it was encouraging climbing since there was no barrier around it and she would let her kids climb it to get a full sensory experience of the art.
I'm still shocked she doesn't think this is disrespectful, but now I know to never make a playdate with her.
Parents encouraged the climbing? Hell no. Albert Einstein is actoss the street. Go climb him.
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No way! Don't climb any monuments! They're not playgrounds!
But Einstein is pretty much designed for people to lean/sit on/etc for pictures. He's even lounging on steps to make it easy for you. Totally different than climbing a war memorial or onto Lincoln's lap.
My kid would've seen these kids playing on it and went to play on it too and Ida been loud in my "No. Monuments aren't for playing. It's disrespectful." Like I am when kids are climbing fences on the habitats at the zoo and mine tries to join in.
#meanmama
"AND ONLY ASSHOLES LET THEIR CHILDREN PLAY ON MONUMENTS. LET'S GO GET ICE CREAM AS A REWARD FOR YOU NOT BEHAVING LIKE A FUCKING ANIMAL, JUNIOR!!"
Yes! Our zoo has statues all over the place, and kids are welcome and even encouraged to climb on them--seriously, when Abby was 3, one day we saw not a single animal; all we did was see the statuary for her to climb on. But those are statues designed for that purpose.
These are memorials. To dead and wounded soldiers. There's such a difference.
I daydream of it going down like this as I stand next to an asshole parent as their asshole kids climb on a memorial next to a Do Not Climb sign: Me: "Reading saves lives." Asshole: "What? No one's in danger." Me, glaring just so at Asshole: "Aren't they?"
I fucking goddamn hate people who pull this shit acting like their preshuses calisthenics trump respect to a WAR VETERAN.
Someone I know posted this and said it was encouraging climbing since there was no barrier around it and she would let her kids climb it to get a full sensory experience of the art.
I'm still shocked she doesn't think this is disrespectful, but now I know to never make a playdate with her.
I can't side eye this woman hard enough. Would she give her kids markers at the Mona Lisa for a "full sensory experience?"
Someone I know posted this and said it was encouraging climbing since there was no barrier around it and she would let her kids climb it to get a full sensory experience of the art.
I'm still shocked she doesn't think this is disrespectful, but now I know to never make a playdate with her.
I can't side eye this woman hard enough. Would she give her kids markers at the Mona Lisa for a "full sensory experience?"
The Mona Lisa would be blessed to have her special snowflakes give her a touch up.
Her post has been very disturbing to me because I never would have guessed she would feel that way and I feel like I can't move on from it.
Someone I know posted this and said it was encouraging climbing since there was no barrier around it and she would let her kids climb it to get a full sensory experience of the art.
I'm still shocked she doesn't think this is disrespectful, but now I know to never make a playdate with her.
WOW. That's really great that her kids will get the full sensory experience while future generations won't even be able to view the art after its been destroyed by monsters climbing all over it.
I'm just gonna need to assume that these folks are not from around here, and are in fact from somewhere very very far away that doesn't have such monuments. This must be their first time there, and thus they had no idea of the meaning of this monument, or the rules about not fucking climbing on monuments to begin with. People are dumb, and without clear signage, assume that means free reign to do whatever you want (a la PPs FB friend).
Post by cattledogkisses on Mar 26, 2015 7:40:41 GMT -5
We took a class trip to Washington DC when I was in middle school, and we were lectured extensively by the adults that we were to be quiet and behave with the utmost respect at the memorials, because they were emotional places for people who had fought in or lost a loved one in those wars.
The parents should know better as the adults. I hope someone shamed them.
Post by Velar Fricative on Mar 26, 2015 7:42:13 GMT -5
I hope those side-eyeing old people in the other picture actually said something. After all, what's the fun of getting old if you can't speak your mind with no care of the consequences?
I'm assuming the man in a wheelchair is a veteran and that just breaks my heart that he's seeing this. Even if he's not a veteran, it pisses me off anyway. Fucking parents, man.
We took a class trip to Washington DC when I was in middle school, and we were lectured extensively by the adults that we were to be quiet and behave with the utmost respect at the memorials, because they were emotional places for people who had fought in or lost a loved one in those wars.
The parents should know better as the adults. I hope someone shamed them.
Same, except it was high school and you better believe we weren't even allowed to say a word amongst each other around that Vietnam wall. WTF is wrong with these parents?
We took a class trip to Washington DC when I was in middle school, and we were lectured extensively by the adults that we were to be quiet and behave with the utmost respect at the memorials, because they were emotional places for people who had fought in or lost a loved one in those wars.
The parents should know better as the adults. I hope someone shamed them.
Same, except it was high school and you better believe we weren't even allowed to say a word amongst each other around that Vietnam wall. WTF is wrong with these parents?
But this is what I keep saying around these parts. This is how parents are these days. We are all outraged, but in fact there is nothing unusual about this behavior, and I have seen so many examples of this in the 8 years that I have been a parent. I have no clue if it's always been this way, but being among my own people makes me want to stab kittens because people let their children behave like animals.
ETA: As if to prove my point, I posted this on my FB mom group, and so far every response has been that this was staged for the purpose of stirring controversy. I guess I will eat crow if they turn out to be right, but for now I don't even know how to respond intelligently to that.
Same, except it was high school and you better believe we weren't even allowed to say a word amongst each other around that Vietnam wall. WTF is wrong with these parents?
But this is what I keep saying around these parts. This is how parents are these days. We are all outraged, but in fact there is nothing unusual about this behavior, and I have seen so many examples of this in the 8 years that I have been a parent. I have no clue if it's always been this way, but being among my own people makes me want to stab kittens because people let their children behave like animals.
ETA: As if to prove my point, I posted this on my FB mom group, and so far every response has been that this was staged for the purpose of stirring controversy. I guess I will eat crow if they turn out to be right, but for now I don't even know how to respond intelligently to that.
MH and I were just talking about how awful parents are last night as we sat outside on our porch watching the kids play. Basically we determined that regardless of what way you choose to discipline (our neighbors are big spankers, unabashedly so), you have to be consistent. My neighbors' kids get spanked when they are caught misbehaving, but they are caught and disciplined like 3% of the time. So for the kids it's a risk/reward. The risk of misbehaving and not doing what they are supposed to is so low because they rarely see any consequences for their actions (also, these kids are older than my kids - 10 and up). My neighbor also gives in to their bullshit almost 99% of the time so on top of rarely being disciplined, they whine and berate her and she gives in.
On the one hand, I know my neighbor is worn out. They have 5 kids, 2 of which are her husbands and give her hell for everything, they both work, he is out of town for work for long periods of time, and I'm sure it is exhausting to deal with the number of kids and their ages. So rationally, I can kind of see that you'd just give it up because you're tired of it all. BUT YOU ARE A PARENT, and your kids are running all over you! I just want to know how it got to this point, because I never want to get there.
They were playing outside last night and just running wild with no regard, screaming at each other and basically acting like they had no goddamn sense. One of my other neighbors said something to them about watching what they were doing around the younger kids and they totally ignored her. So I yelled at all of them, but it didn't make much difference - they at least acknowledged my yelling and stared at me for a minute. Sad that it felt like a victory.
And the other part of my rant. My kids are old enough - Jackson esp - that I am comfortable with him playing in our cul de sac/front yard without me being out there every minute. Despite that, I sit out there - when I could be doing other things to make sure the kids are behaving. My neighbors with older kids don't do this at all, and a lot of times even when we are inside, I can hear them being assholes. So surely my neighbors hear it too and just don't care! I would be mortified if my kids were out there acting like that. It's basically like they don't want to deal with them at all, so they just let it go.
My kid would've seen these kids playing on it and went to play on it too and Ida been loud in my "No. Monuments aren't for playing. It's disrespectful." Like I am when kids are climbing fences on the habitats at the zoo and mine tries to join in.
#meanmama
I call this passive aggressive Co-parenting. Last time we were at the zoo there were kids were chasing the peacocks. I loudly told Thing 3, I'M SO GLAD YOU KNOW TO TREAT THE ANIMALS WE'RE VISITING WITH RESPECT.
Climbing a memorial? Fuck no.
One of my FB friends works at a local zoo and posted she has had to ask ADULTS to stop chasing peacocks before. More than once.
Post by jillboston on Mar 26, 2015 18:16:58 GMT -5
I would walk over to the oldest one and ask her where her parents are and then read them the fucking riot act. Fucking LOUDLY.(the parents, not the kids but well loud enough for the kids to hear it).