Physicians want Dr Oz gone from Columbia medical faculty

[jeaniebueller]

Shocker! :Y:

www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/physicians-want-dr-oz-gone-from-columbia-medical-faculty/ar-AAb7Bzy?ocid=mailsignout

NEW YORK (AP) — Columbia University has not removed TV celebrity doctor Mehmet Oz from his faculty position as a group of top doctors have demanded, citing his "egregious lack of integrity" for promoting what they call "quack treatments."

"Dr. Oz has repeatedly shown disdain for science and for evidence-based medicine," said a letter the 10 physicians sent to a Columbia dean earlier this week. They say he's pushing "miracle" weight-loss supplements with no scientific proof that they work.

The New York Ivy League school responded Thursday, issuing a statement to The Associated Press saying only that the school "is committed to the principle of academic freedom and to upholding faculty members' freedom of expression for statements they make in public discussion."

Led by Dr. Henry Miller of California's Stanford University, the doctors sent the letter to Lee Goldman, dean of Columbia's Faculties of Health Sciences and Medicine. The nine other doctors from across the country included Dr. Joel Tepper, a cancer researcher from the University of North Carolina School of Medicine, and Dr. Gilbert Ross of the American Council on Science and Health in New York City.

The doctors wrote that Oz, for years a world-class Columbia cardiothoracic surgeon, "has manifested an egregious lack of integrity by promoting quack treatments and cures in the interest of personal financial gain." They said he has "misled and endangered" the public.

Oz first came to public attention as a frequent television guest of Oprah Winfrey. For the past five years, he's been the host of "The Dr. Oz Show."

Last year, he appeared before a U.S. Senate panel that accused him of endorsing products that were medically unsound. At the time, Oz acknowledged that some of the products he advised his viewers to use "don't have the scientific muster to present as fact."

A show representative did not immediately return a call Thursday for comment.

As vice chair of Columbia's surgery department, Oz still occasionally teaches, said Douglas Levy, spokesman for the Columbia University Medical Center.

[cville]

Was he always a quack? Or did fame twist him? I though this first book was supposedly all sciency and well received.

[iammalcolmx]

Lawd he stay setting Turkish people back.

[bears]

MH and I were talking about this the other day. Like, you get bank as a cardiothorasic surgeon. There's really no need for this quackery. Is it greed or he just wanted to be famous? It's fucking shameful either way.

[msmerymac]

Apr 17, 2015 9:32:21 GMT -5 cville said:

Was he always a quack? Or did fame twist him? I though this first book was supposedly all sciency and well received.

Someone posted an interesting article yesterday. He's a really well respected surgeon. He has degrees from UPenn and Harvard and is on the staff of Columbia, for god's sake. 

He's always been a little prone to acknowledging that there are some intangibles and alternatives that go into helping people recover, and that just proscribing pills isn't necessarily all people need to heal. But the crazy ass shit he's engaging in now is pretty much a side effect of fame. 

[KateAggie]

Repost of yesterday's article...

www.vox.com/2015/4/16/8412427/dr-oz-health-claims

[IIOY]

Apr 17, 2015 9:32:21 GMT -5 cville said:

Was he always a quack? Or did fame twist him? I though this first book was supposedly all sciency and well received.

Read KateAggie's article.  He is quite the lauded physician.  I was shocked because I associate him with colossal bullshit.

[insominac]

H and I always laugh at him on the NY Med reality program - he's standing in the OR and his gloves aren't even bloody. Just talking to the camera while the other surgeon does the work. I wonder if they even let him operate anymore. Sad. You'd think being a top cardiothoracic surgeon would be enough for the ego.

[Deleted]

Apr 17, 2015 13:14:31 GMT -5 bears said:

MH and I were talking about this the other day. Like, you get bank as a cardiothorasic surgeon. There's really no need for this quackery. Is it greed or he just wanted to be famous? It's fucking shameful either way.

While CT surgeons make good money, the lifestyle and stress is shitty. I don't blame him for wanting to move in to the journalism sphere to make more money, but he could've done it more Sanjay Gupta or Nancy Schneiderman style instead of fucking whacko style.

[cohmom]

I suspect his surgeon genes protect him from really feeling the impact of the professional side eye. In his head I am sure this is all justified.

[bears]

Apr 17, 2015 17:25:51 GMT -5 @wandering said:

Apr 17, 2015 13:14:31 GMT -5 bears said:

MH and I were talking about this the other day. Like, you get bank as a cardiothorasic surgeon. There's really no need for this quackery. Is it greed or he just wanted to be famous? It's fucking shameful either way.

While CT surgeons make good money, the lifestyle and stress is shitty. I don't blame him for wanting to move in to the journalism sphere to make more money, but he could've done it more Sanjay Gupta or Nancy Schneiderman style instead of fucking whacko style.

Well, I think that Sanjay Gupta is pretty much the worst, so maybe not the best example.

[Deleted]

He is making a zillion times more money by being a quack.

[bears]

Apr 17, 2015 20:07:08 GMT -5 @spenjamins said:

He is making a zillion times more money by being a quack.

I guess.  I'd be okay just being a multi-millionaire, though.

[missmaddie]

Apr 17, 2015 13:22:10 GMT -5 mryrcn said:

Once again Oprah affected someone's brain.

Yep. 

Dr. Phil

Dr. Oz

Jenny McCarthy. 

She's got some explaining to do...

[Deleted]

Apr 17, 2015 20:45:14 GMT -5 bears said:

Apr 17, 2015 20:07:08 GMT -5 @spenjamins said:

He is making a zillion times more money by being a quack.

I guess.  I'd be okay just being a multi-millionaire, though.

By being a surgeon? Surely you jest.

[irene adler]

Apr 17, 2015 21:08:57 GMT -5 missmaddie said:

Apr 17, 2015 13:22:10 GMT -5 mryrcn said:

Once again Oprah affected someone's brain.

Yep. 

Dr. Phil

Dr. Oz

Jenny McCarthy. 

She's got some explaining to do...

Thank god Suze came out unscathed. I miss her Saturday night show.

[Deleted]

Apr 17, 2015 20:45:14 GMT -5 bears said:

Apr 17, 2015 20:07:08 GMT -5 @spenjamins said:

He is making a zillion times more money by being a quack.

I guess.  I'd be okay just being a multi-millionaire, though.

You think CT surgeons make multi millions of dollars? Lol, they don't. I guarantee you that Dr Oz is making buckets more money now.

[annieblah]

He saved my grandfather's life so I am sad he is a quack.

[bears]

Apr 17, 2015 21:39:10 GMT -5 @wandering said:

Apr 17, 2015 20:45:14 GMT -5 bears said:

I guess.  I'd be okay just being a multi-millionaire, though.

You think CT surgeons make multi millions of dollars? Lol, they don't. I guarantee you that Dr Oz is making buckets more money now.

Lol, no. I don't. I think they make a very good salary for difficult and skilled work, especially since it sounds like Oz was very successful in his field and in his institution. I know it's not in the realm of a million/year, but over a career, I don't think that amount be shocking.

He also could be successful as a TV doctor without putting his name on all this wacky shit, but he's obviously either crazy and believes it or greedy as fuck.

[insominac]

Apr 17, 2015 21:19:06 GMT -5 @spenjamins said:

Apr 17, 2015 20:45:14 GMT -5 bears said:

I guess.  I'd be okay just being a multi-millionaire, though.

By being a surgeon? Surely you jest.

Especially a surgeon at a teaching hospital.

[bears]

Apr 18, 2015 9:58:59 GMT -5 insominac said:

Apr 17, 2015 21:19:06 GMT -5 @spenjamins said:

By being a surgeon? Surely you jest.

Especially a surgeon at a teaching hospital.

No, I don't think CTs are living like Scrooge McDuck in piles of money.

[bronxgirl]

Apr 17, 2015 9:32:21 GMT -5 cville said:

Was he always a quack? Or did fame twist him? I though this first book was supposedly all sciency and well received.

fame twisted him. he was a very well respected doctor and scientist until Oprah got her clutches on him.

[bears]

Apr 18, 2015 12:38:06 GMT -5 bronxgirl said:

Apr 17, 2015 9:32:21 GMT -5 cville said:

Was he always a quack? Or did fame twist him? I though this first book was supposedly all sciency and well received.

fame twisted him. he was a very well respected doctor and scientist until Oprah got her clutches on him.

www.vox.com/2015/4/16/8412427/dr-oz-health-claims
It kind of sounds like he believed in quackery for a while before.

I'm not 100% against alternatives, but it sounds like he had a lot of criticism before Oprah came along.