Give notice (after you get the offer) and be clear that you love the school, but you literally can't afford to work there anymore because of the insurance situation. Hopefully losing a good teacher will inspire changes, because that is crazy. Do all the other teachers use insurance through a spouse? Your H is self-employed, right?
I stayed at my last job longer than I should have out of misplaced loyalty. It doesn't help to be loyal if you miss out on money/satisfaction/opportunities.
I know they could luck out and find a good teacher, but in the independent school world (at least our subset of it) the good teachers are mostly snatched up by now. Plus, they wouldn't be able to get a them to actually teach a class as part of the interview process, which makes or breaks you. UGH. And my particular subject/grade level is one of the hardest to fill because generally those who teach my subject do not want to teach my grade level.
I worry so much because I love the kids and I love my coworkers and I'm very connected to this school. I'm an alum, too. I know I'm overinvested, but I can't help it.
But thats also the issue. I let my certification lapse many years ago (since I do not need it at independent schools) so public schools are out. And if I do go back to teaching in an independent school locally they would immediately talk to my old school and I don't want to burn bridges if I need a rec later.
I KNOW I'M OVERTHINKING IT! But since I'm sitting here waiting for the damn letter it is what I will continue to do until Tuesday.
I was hired in the teaching world in June - private school, overseas, who tend to find people in Feb. Do NOT hold back from quitting - you won't be the first private school person to leave this late for a better opportunity. I've worked at many private schools and they can always find good people (including those who have to leave at the last minute due to their significant other's jobs, etc). It will be fine. You will be fine if you leave. And you should know that there will be someone at the school, particularly if you're an alumnus, who will give you a fabulous review even with this decision.
If you're worried about burning bridges blame it on the medical issue. Couch it in, "this really hurts me. I love you guys. This is my home. We just can't afford to spend $30k a year in medical related expenses. I have to do it for the insurance".
Post by decemberwedding07 on May 24, 2015 10:19:38 GMT -5
I cannot imagine if you would really be burning bridges if you explained it to your employer the same way you explained it here. You're spending an insane amount on healthcare, you weren't even looking for another job, this one has just fallen into you lap and you need to take it because it's what's best for you and your family. I would never hold that against someone! I mean, you're basically working the first half of the school year just to cover medical expenses. That is TRULY crazy. I doubt that they realize that you're having to do that.
Does teaching there make your tuition free? How much of a difference does that make?
Post by rupertpenny on May 24, 2015 10:26:18 GMT -5
My BFF is an actuary and lives in your area and has a great lifestyle. The exams were rough, but she got a ton of support at work. I got the impression that her employer really wanted her to succeed and did everything possible to make that happen.
Also, it's one thing to give notice that you won't be returning in January/February if you are either retiring or leaving for another teaching position. But you can't possibly give notice that early if you're leaving the profession for another profession - you know, where they want you to start within the next month or so. Most employers aren't going to assume you need to give 4-5 months' notice at your current job.
Post by cookiemdough on May 24, 2015 15:19:16 GMT -5
So you are an alum You are a great teacher In a grade that is not typically desirable They pass you over for a promotion You have to pay $14k for insurance You pay (although a discount) for your child to attend school there And you are an active parent and teacher in the school community.
If they give you shit for giving 3 months notice then seriously fuck them.
It's easy to think of the what ifs, and what will they do and burned bridges, etc, but trust me, they'll keep on keeping on, and so will you.
Employers who continually pass you over for advancement and/or don't have opportunity for advancement can't be surprised when someone leaves. This on top of piss poor benefits, they have to know they'll lose folks from time to time.
Thems the breaks.
This. You give a good day's work for a good day's pay. When employers want to get rid of people I don't think they spend one damn minute thinking about how it might disrupt that person's life, they just fire you. Why people have all this loyalty to employers who don't give a tinker's damn about any of us is beyond me.
As iammalcolmx would say, quit and be blessed.
This. It can be really hard to come to terms with the fact that we are replaceable when we have been somewhere forever. There are so few employers who would truly feel a pinch for very long. At some point, sooner than you think, you will be an afterthought. It's not personal, it's just business. Do not overthink this.
You and your family come first, and there is a tremendous amount of peace of mind when medical costs become a non-issue. Our medical insurance premiums dropped 75% when I took this job. The small increase in salary was a bonus compared to that.
I want to add is that my cousin taught for 3 years out of college and made about $30k. She made an offhand comment to a table partner at a wedding about his line of work. He said he loved to hire former teachers. She interviewed the following week and within 2 months had changed careers so that she was managing relationships with commercial cargo customers for a major airline. She got great benefits, next to free travel and her pay went from $30k to over $100k overnight. And she met her husband, who does some sort of import/export law. She has never, ever regretted leaving teaching.
Would you mind sharing her general job title? I'm in education and thinking of leaving the field in a few years and this job description sounds really interesting.
You aren't burning bridges by getting a better job. You just aren't. TONS of teachers are scrambling in July and August for a chance to get in somewhere. Im sure you are great, but someone else will be great for it too. Even now, it's still a lot of time for that person to be found.
It's easy to think of the what ifs, and what will they do and burned bridges, etc, but trust me, they'll keep on keeping on, and so will you.
Employers who continually pass you over for advancement and/or don't have opportunity for advancement can't be surprised when someone leaves. This on top of piss poor benefits, they have to know they'll lose folks from time to time.
Thems the breaks.
This. You give a good day's work for a good day's pay. When employers want to get rid of people I don't think they spend one damn minute thinking about how it might disrupt that person's life, they just fire you. Why people have all this loyalty to employers who don't give a tinker's damn about any of us is beyond me.
As iammalcolmx would say, quit and be blessed.
This is why I'm struggling...because I would be leaving an employer who (although benifits suck) does give a damn. Heck they just employed someone for an extra year (who wasn't working at all) because she was dying and needed the income and insurance. She just died this week
The community part of the job is what I will miss most.
Sigh.
I know I am making this into something bigger than it is. I think the above-mentioned death is making this much much harder, too. It has been a rough week for me in terms of death.
Post by LoveTrains on May 24, 2015 18:38:42 GMT -5
needjobadvice but if your kids go to the school and you are an alumna, you will still be part of the community. As an alum, you are automatically always a member of the school community.
This. You give a good day's work for a good day's pay. When employers want to get rid of people I don't think they spend one damn minute thinking about how it might disrupt that person's life, they just fire you. Why people have all this loyalty to employers who don't give a tinker's damn about any of us is beyond me.
As iammalcolmx would say, quit and be blessed.
This is why I'm struggling...because I would be leaving an employer who (although benifits suck) does give a damn. Heck they just employed someone for an extra year (who wasn't working at all) because she was dying and needed the income and insurance. She just died this week
The community part of the job is what I will miss most.
Sigh.
I know I am making this into something bigger than it is. I think the above-mentioned death is making this much much harder, too. It has been a rough week for me in terms of death.
I understand the loyalty you feel and the extended year of pay and insurance for someone who is terminal is wonderful of them. But, truly, life is too short to not do something you are completely committed to/love. It sounds like you are no longer loving it so tell them why and move on (if offer is good)>
I want to add is that my cousin taught for 3 years out of college and made about $30k. She made an offhand comment to a table partner at a wedding about his line of work. He said he loved to hire former teachers. She interviewed the following week and within 2 months had changed careers so that she was managing relationships with commercial cargo customers for a major airline. She got great benefits, next to free travel and her pay went from $30k to over $100k overnight. And she met her husband, who does some sort of import/export law. She has never, ever regretted leaving teaching.
Would you mind sharing her general job title? I'm in education and thinking of leaving the field in a few years and this job description sounds really interesting.
4speedy I'm also interested in this. I'm wanting to leave my current job, but I don't know what else I could do.
Would you mind sharing her general job title? I'm in education and thinking of leaving the field in a few years and this job description sounds really interesting.
4speedy I'm also interested in this. I'm wanting to leave my current job, but I don't know what else I could do.
I don't know what her exact job title was. she worked for Lufthansa (a German airline) Her office was at the Dallas airport. As I understand it, she basically booked and coordinated cargo space for large commercial customers. She did not have to land her own customers, but she did receive bonuses based on retaining customers. She basically had to maintain friendly relations with customers while walking them through the process, I.e., she arranged for any inspections on the receiving end, paperwork, etc. I think she worked with a lot of automotive suppliers. I also think Target was one of her big customers.
As I said, she also met her DH this way, he is an import/export lawyer. At one time, they relocated to Detroit for his job but they did not like it and wanted to move back to Dallas. Lufthansa had already filled her position so now she does the same thing for Delta. I think she works part time from home now.
I remember talking to her when she was interviewing for the Lufthansa job. She said the guy she met at the wedding told her that he likes to hire teachers because they can multitask, they know a little about a lot of different subjects, they can juggle lots of relationships and they stay level headed amidst chaos. It also helped that my cousin spoke Spanish and taught English as a second language since she would be working with international clients.
I get you. I teach in a small private school, I've been there 11 years, and my kids go there. I would have a very very hard time leaving since I feel very tied to the community and I love my work. Trust me when I say your not leaving them in the lurch. We hired two teachers (great ones, in hard to hire positions) this week due to an illness and a late retirement. It can be done. And I really really don't think you'd be leaving on bad terms...it's not like you're taking a teaching job with a competitor. You're switching fields entirely, for reasons that are sound. Your admin is a bag of dicks if they blacklist you for making a good decision for your family when you have been, by all accounts, an exemplary community member.
"Hello babies. Welcome to Earth. It's hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It's round and wet and crowded. On the outside, babies, you've got a hundred years here. There's only one rule that I know of, babies-"God damn it, you've got to be kind.”
I don't know what her exact job title was. she worked for Lufthansa (a German airline) Her office was at the Dallas airport. As I understand it, she basically booked and coordinated cargo space for large commercial customers. She did not have to land her own customers, but she did receive bonuses based on retaining customers. She basically had to maintain friendly relations with customers while walking them through the process, I.e., she arranged for any inspections on the receiving end, paperwork, etc. I think she worked with a lot of automotive suppliers. I also think Target was one of her big customers.
As I said, she also met her DH this way, he is an import/export lawyer. At one time, they relocated to Detroit for his job but they did not like it and wanted to move back to Dallas. Lufthansa had already filled her position so now she does the same thing for Delta. I think she works part time from home now.
I remember talking to her when she was interviewing for the Lufthansa job. She said the guy she met at the wedding told her that he likes to hire teachers because they can multitask, they know a little about a lot of different subjects, they can juggle lots of relationships and they stay level headed amidst chaos. It also helped that my cousin spoke Spanish and taught English as a second language since she would be working with international clients.
Dang, I could so do that. That's basically what I do now, but for less money.