Ok. Explain to me, like I'm 5, what this is saying. I keep looking at it, and all I see is "Coca-Cola open diabetes." Which is not insulting and not, not insulting, but just nonsensical. And maybe it's because I've taken unisom(which is not really working), but I am LOST. And I want to be properly outraged.
I don't know about properly outraged, but the gist is that the ad implies that by consuming sugar, you'll give yourself diabetes, e.g. your disease is your fault. One can not give oneself diabetes by consuming sugar.
Ok. Explain to me, like I'm 5, what this is saying. I keep looking at it, and all I see is "Coca-Cola open diabetes." Which is not insulting and not, not insulting, but just nonsensical. And maybe it's because I've taken unisom(which is not really working), but I am LOST. And I want to be properly outraged.
*sits here*
Coke's current slogan is "open happiness." Which makes no sense either, so I guess Mr. NordicTrac, um, I mean [insert trendy exercise here] was limited by his material.
I never post on this board, but I do lurk once in a while. @paigeturner - my son was diagnosed with Type One in November (3 weeks before I gave birth to our 3rd baby). My blood has been boiling all day. The fact that this is their "thing" makes me even more fired up. I had to stop reading the twitter feed because I could feel my blood pressure rising.
Ok. Explain to me, like I'm 5, what this is saying. I keep looking at it, and all I see is "Coca-Cola open diabetes." Which is not insulting and not, not insulting, but just nonsensical. And maybe it's because I've taken unisom(which is not really working), but I am LOST. And I want to be properly outraged.
The caption reads "poor one out for your dead homies". The whole thing implies that sugar (and Coca Cola) causes diabetes and that drinking a coke will cause you to be diabetic and kill you.
Coke's current slogan is "open happiness." Which makes no sense either, so I guess Mr. NordicTrac, um, I mean [insert trendy exercise here] was limited by his material.
Knowing the current slogan is the key. I think. Now I understand. I'm more eye-rolly than outraged, but I'm happy I now get it. Thank you for your assistance. And I will stick to sweet tea.
Also, a lot of the outrage is because they keep arguing with actual diabetes experts and people with T1 that they are right. They just come across as so insolent.
My father was diagnosed with T1 as an adult and was told by many people, including doctors, that he couldn't be T1 because only children got that. And there is always the assumption that you "did this to yourself" from eating too much sugar. It's frustrating. That and the new thing that if you just ate paleo all your diseases and conditions would be cured. Sorry, but no. Not eating grains isn't going to cure diabetes.
MH was diagnosed at age 33. Same thing - people assume that it HAS to be T2 bc he was older and make comments about him being "skinny" (esp. at diagnosis when he had lost about 25 lbs).
He's gotten the comments about "curing" it too through eating a certain way (grain and sugar free).
My father was diagnosed with T1 as an adult and was told by many people, including doctors, that he couldn't be T1 because only children got that. And there is always the assumption that you "did this to yourself" from eating too much sugar. It's frustrating. That and the new thing that if you just ate paleo all your diseases and conditions would be cured. Sorry, but no. Not eating grains isn't going to cure diabetes.
DH was 27 at diagnosis. We knew next to nothing about diabetes until 6 yeas ago.
Here's the thing - there is no cure for any type of diabetes. None. There are strategies for management and those options are very different depending on what type a person has. There is nothing but misleading and dangerous information in the media about diabetes and it pisses me off so much. I hate living with the stigma that I gave myself Type 2 diabetes because it's "preventable" and if only I'd just "eaten right and exercised" and was slim I wouldn't have gotten it. It's bullshit. I come from a long line of people with diabetes - Type 1s, Type 2s, and people with LADA. The question when looking at my genetic family history should be who doesn't have the disease.
The thing is uncontrolled (remember that word) diabetes is a leading cause of disability and death in the U.S. However, diabetes, when well managed, is not a death sentence. I hate the the media and many physicians still play the "dead diabetic" card. It sucks.
Y'all are probably tired of me railing on about this subject, but it's personal and it makes me angry when people make assumptions about my disease.
My father was diagnosed with T1 as an adult and was told by many people, including doctors, that he couldn't be T1 because only children got that. And there is always the assumption that you "did this to yourself" from eating too much sugar. It's frustrating. That and the new thing that if you just ate paleo all your diseases and conditions would be cured. Sorry, but no. Not eating grains isn't going to cure diabetes.
MH was diagnosed at age 33. Same thing - people assume that it HAS to be T2 bc he was older and make comments about him being "skinny" (esp. at diagnosis when he had lost about 25 lbs).
He's gotten the comments about "curing" it too through eating a certain way (grain and sugar free).
Ok quick question: My understanding initially was that both sugar intake and obesity were linked to diabetes. I understand what everyone is saying, and that sugar intake has no bearing on diabetes, but does the same apply to obesity?
Here's the thing - there is no cure for any type of diabetes. None. There are strategies for management and those options are very different depending on what type a person has. There is nothing but misleading and dangerous information in the media about diabetes and it pisses me off so much. I hate living with the stigma that I gave myself Type 2 diabetes because it's "preventable" and if only I'd just "eaten right and exercised" and was slim I wouldn't have gotten it. It's bullshit. I come from a long line of people with diabetes - Type 1s, Type 2s, and people with LADA. The question when looking at my genetic family history should be who doesn't have the disease.
The thing is uncontrolled (remember that word) diabetes is a leading cause of disability and death in the U.S. However, diabetes, when well managed, is not a death sentence. I hate the the media and many physicians still play the "dead diabetic" card. It sucks.
Y'all are probably tired of me railing on about this subject, but it's personal and it makes me angry when people make assumptions about my disease.
I can't highlight but we're not tired of it at all. Keep it going, girl. I know nothing about diabetes so you are doing me a great service.
The American Diabetes Association says on their website that sugar consumption is linked to development of Type 2, and specifically recommends that people avoid sugar-sweetened beverages to help prevent diabetes. But PPs have said that this is all false. Has new research contradicted the American Diabetes Association stance and they just haven't updated their recommendations yet?
Research has shown that drinking sugary drinks is linked to type 2 diabetes.
The American Diabetes Association recommends that people should avoid intake of sugar-sweetened beverages to help prevent diabetes.
Sugar-sweetened beverages include beverages like:
regular soda
fruit punch
fruit drinks
energy drinks
sports drinks
sweet tea
other sugary drinks.
These will raise blood glucose and can provide several hundred calories in just one serving!
See for yourself:
Just one 12-ounce can of regular soda has about 150 calories and 40 grams of carbohydrate. This is the same amount of carbohydrate in 10 teaspoons of sugar!
One cup of fruit punch and other sugary fruit drinks have about 100 calories (or more) and 30 grams of carbohydrate.
It's a risk factor, but one of several. It's not absolute by any means.
It's a risk factor, but one of several. It's not absolute by any means.
No, but some are saying sugar isn't a factor, when it absolutely is.
Sure. I think the problem is the implication that "you can definitely avoid becoming T2 if you never drink a Coke" and that simply isn't true. There are more facets to it, and Crossfit has no business reducing it to an insensitive graphic about dead people.
Sure. I think the problem is the implication that "you can definitely avoid becoming T2 if you never drink a Coke" and that simply isn't true. There are more facets to it, and Crossfit has no business reducing it to an insensitive graphic about dead people.
Of course that's not true, and the ad is offensive, but drinking sugar beverages remains a factor.
I wouldn't claim to be an expert, but to my knowledge yes.
I haven't read anything new lately, but folks have been working seriously hard on some amazing technology for people with this disease. It's really quite impressive.
My sister has had T1 for 20 years and she doesn't take care of herself AT ALL. When she was here last month, she landed in the ICU for three days with DKA. It's really sad, especially since she has a teen daughter. My mom said recently that she hopes sis makes it to see her daughter graduate high school. OMG that's only four years away!! So sad.
I wouldn't claim to be an expert, but to my knowledge yes.
I haven't read anything new lately, but folks have been working seriously hard on some amazing technology for people with this disease. It's really quite impressive.
At least in social media (and personally) I thought offense was taken at the perpetuation of misinformation about T1. I didn't see much backlash from T2. Also talking about "dead homies" is gross. I know people who have died from T1 and it has nothing to do with Coke.
Sure. I think the problem is the implication that "you can definitely avoid becoming T2 if you never drink a Coke" and that simply isn't true. There are more facets to it, and Crossfit has no business reducing it to an insensitive graphic about dead people.
They're guilty of telling a partial truth and doing it in a tasteless way, yes. But saying that the point of their message (that there is a link between consumption of sugary beverages and developing diabetes) is completely fabricated, patently false, and nothing more than a damaging myth isn't quite right either.
It's not completely false, just oversimplistic. That and the fact that they are doubling down with this Coke = dead people thing since the first post even happened.
Excessive consumption of sugar can cause obesity. Why? Because excess glucose in the body is stored as fat. Obesity is a risk factor for Type 2 diabetes along with a genetic predisposition for the disease.
Sugar does not play any role in the development of diabetes. It's a really common misconception and the fact that a huge brand did this has people out of their old person rockers and out into the streets with pitchforks and torches blazing. Rightly so.
It's a risk factor, but one of several. It's not absolute by any means.
I mean, I get being outraged by misinformation, but misinformation is being spread by both sides here.
Ok, but if this is the case, why do we then have an obesity epidemic but the majority of them have NOT developed type 2? You could drink soda every day for the rest of your life and not get it. Scientists know now the genetic factor plays a much bigger part in type 2 than they thought before. Lowering your risk is always good and you should strive to be healthy, but sugar is NOT the number one pre-determining factor to developing type 2 (and it never ever is for type 1!). The studies they refer to don't go into family history or any other pertinent info. Do the patients have relatives with type 2? More research needs to be done. You can be a skinny 6 ft 3 man and still have type 2.