Post by charlielove on Aug 3, 2015 12:44:52 GMT -5
My kid is now a first grader, 6 years old and she still needs a nap here and there to recharge. It can make all the difference in her attitude and behavior when she does take one on the weekend (like she did on Saturday). I'm 32 and I also took a nap on Saturday.
C25K...it works Seaside 5K...........40:45(2012) Turkey Trot..........41:30(2012)/37:08(2013)/37:40(2014) St Pat's 5K..........39:27(2013)/38:48(2014)/35:12(2015) Belair Town Run......38:09(2013)/36:27(2014) Back To Football 5K..37:36(2013)/43:44(2015) Balt Run Fest 5K.....34:59(2013)/41:50(2014)/35:54(2015)
C25K...it works Seaside 5K...........40:45(2012) Turkey Trot..........41:30(2012)/37:08(2013)/37:40(2014) St Pat's 5K..........39:27(2013)/38:48(2014)/35:12(2015) Belair Town Run......38:09(2013)/36:27(2014) Back To Football 5K..37:36(2013)/43:44(2015) Balt Run Fest 5K.....34:59(2013)/41:50(2014)/35:54(2015)
H napped until the end of pre-k. There were no naps at summer camp. It took 3 weeks of crankiness to get over the hump. Then when school started she had to be woken up an hour earlier. We pushed bed time up 30mins. It took another few weeks to adjust.
I would much rather deal with that than a non napping 3 year old.
"Feel sorry for kids who - fill in the blank" comments incite a special kind of rage.
In my specific example, the kid is starting kindergarten in 3 weeks. So, the kid is not 3.
That comment wasn't really stated in regards to the bold. I still don't think you get this so let me speak slower...a 2 hour nap or "rest period" is required by whoever liscenses our preschool. Therefore, H was given the opportunity to nap until age 5.5 and she typically slept the entire time. She graduated on a Friday and started camp the following Monday. How would you have made this transition less harsh and sad? Oh, and had she been able to attend preschool for the summer I would have had no problem with her napping, nor would I have had a choice.
Post by dixeedeluxe on Aug 3, 2015 13:02:26 GMT -5
Obviously you don't always have a choice. Like how some kids have to kind of get on with PT because they need to move up rooms in DC or to stark PreK. I get it. Sometimes things are harsh and sad and that sucks! I'm not good at tackling those things when I have a bit of control. Like Adeline not STTN. Yeah, it totally sucks for me. But I'm not good at making things hard when I can make them easy and I don't see any negative outcomes for anyone but me.
It's the same reason I have terribly trained elderly dogs. I'M TERRIBLE AT IT.
But if you have the choice, it just seems like gradually weaning of naps sounds like a good choice. I just wrote a long thing and I'll took about it in PM if anyone wants to inbox me. But it gave away specifics of the story that spawned my OP. So I'll take it off the board behind closed doors if you care. Which I know no one really does, haha.
C25K...it works Seaside 5K...........40:45(2012) Turkey Trot..........41:30(2012)/37:08(2013)/37:40(2014) St Pat's 5K..........39:27(2013)/38:48(2014)/35:12(2015) Belair Town Run......38:09(2013)/36:27(2014) Back To Football 5K..37:36(2013)/43:44(2015) Balt Run Fest 5K.....34:59(2013)/41:50(2014)/35:54(2015)
Lily doesn't nap anymore and it's kind of nice not to be tied to it or feel like we have to rush home. I miss the little break but it's not worth how frustrating naps were. My baby only naps being held still. Lily still wakes up at least once a night, I've just accepted that's how she is and she gets lonely so she comes in with us. I'm so jealous of people who have easy sleepers. I try not to think about how badly my kids sleep or I will be so grumpy, it is what it is. I'm not going to let it steal my happiness because I know they are great in so many other ways.
Thank you or posting this. I've been bitching about V's sleeping a lot lately and this made me feel better and realize she's the easiest baby during the day, if sleeping is our only problem then I think we're doing well.
This is my compromise with C. He's a happy, fun, adventurous kid all day who eats well, handles change easily, and is very affectionate. He just sucks at sleeping. I can handle the sleepless nights as long as he's a joy during the day.
But what happens when the kids who need naps to function go to school with no naps??
Depends on the school/teacher. We have a 20 minute "quiet time" where kids can rest on their mat, read or color. Not all schools do though. If a kid falls asleep, I tend to let them sleep. If it happens more than once or twice, I talk to the parents and see what they want done. We do our core academics in the morning and rest is after lunch, so they aren't missing things like their reading group. Most kids who can sleep through a class of other awake kinders need the sleep and don't get much productive work done if I wake them up. Some teachers would wake them up. I tend to have 1-2 sleepers each fall and everyone is up by spring ( except for a few students I've had who have stuff going on at home that impacts their sleep at night).
C25K...it works Seaside 5K...........40:45(2012) Turkey Trot..........41:30(2012)/37:08(2013)/37:40(2014) St Pat's 5K..........39:27(2013)/38:48(2014)/35:12(2015) Belair Town Run......38:09(2013)/36:27(2014) Back To Football 5K..37:36(2013)/43:44(2015) Balt Run Fest 5K.....34:59(2013)/41:50(2014)/35:54(2015)
I guess I just don't see how not having a nap in kindergarten equates to kids being coddled or not "academic" enough. We had nap time when I was 5 and I could read to my class. I didn't always nap on my mat, but many kids did. Something about what is expected in kindergarten these days really irks me.
As a K teacher, I'm very torn about what kindergarten has become. On one hand, kids are showing themselves to be much more capable of taking on rigorous work at a young age. They are so smart! But, I have some doubts about if that's what they should be going with their time at 5/6. I think a lot of the behavioral issues we see are because kids are asked to work in a way that isn't developmentally appropriate and we don't have enough ( in some schools-any) time for free play/social emotional learning. I want all of my kids to leave K thinking school is fun and learning is something they are good at. For my more struggling kids/less mature kids, the current model of kindergarten makes that hard to accomplish. And we aren't seeing kids leaving high school way ahead of where they used to be as a result of the early push for intense academics. I think most K teachers work really hard to meet the standards, while respecting who 5/6 year olds are, but it sure can be a challenge.
Post by creamsiclechica on Aug 3, 2015 18:06:17 GMT -5
I don't really give a shit whether kids take naps or not. Life is short and hard. If a kid needs to sleep, and they're happier for it, let them sleep. Who cares how old they are. Kids are resilient and remarkable, and we never give them enough credit. They eventually make transitions they need to make, considering most people are pacifier free, bottle free, not breast fed, and not required to sleep from 1 to 3 to function as adults. I don't really understand why we always have to have a stake in other people's parenting this way that we have to "feel bad" for their kids. So it doesn't work for you. Good, it doesn't have to.
It's no secret that I hate school nap time, but that's because I feel so bad for my kid having to stay quietly on his cot for that hour every day while his friends sleep and can't believe he'll have to do so for at least two more years. I wish he could go play somewhere, but the whole school naps at the same time.
It's no secret that I hate school nap time, but that's because I feel so bad for my kid having to stay quietly on his cot for that hour every day while his friends sleep and can't believe he'll have to do so for at least two more years. I wish he could go play somewhere, but the whole school naps at the same time.
One of the daycare teachers was explaining to me that when kids are "napping" the ratio of kids to teachers is twice what it is when they are awake. So they have to push naps so that teachers can go on break. It sucks because a child is not considered napping if they are reading or playing quietly on their cot either. My kid will happily read a book or play quietly with a matchbox car, but right now he's testing boundaries by asking to go pee every 5 minutes and then when they say no he pees on his cot every day in protest ....
My kid is now a first grader, 6 years old and she still needs a nap here and there to recharge. It can make all the difference in her attitude and behavior when she does take one on the weekend (like she did on Saturday). I'm 32 and I also took a nap on Saturday.
This!
My soon to be 3rd grader still naps during breaks and on the weekend, and not in school. Dixee you can keep your sympathy, or not. Your call.
This nap discussion is biting me in the ass. C took a freak nap at school today, and he's currently bouncing off the walls and laughing maniacally three hours into bedtime hell. I FUCKING HATE NAPS.
I took the kids to a balloon fest this weekend by myself. R won't be worn too long in the heat so I brought the stroller too. When R was in the stroller I had A wear a skip hop backpack leash. It was the freaking best. He still tried to escape several times only to find himself tethered. I have no regrets and do not care if people were judging me.
It's no secret that I hate school nap time, but that's because I feel so bad for my kid having to stay quietly on his cot for that hour every day while his friends sleep and can't believe he'll have to do so for at least two more years. I wish he could go play somewhere, but the whole school naps at the same time.
That does suck. That would be SO hard for D At her current preschool the kids who don't nap go to Spanish and outside time.
The school I worked at had a non napping room they could go to once they were in the turning 4 room. It is true nap ratios are different so teachers can take breaks
This nap discussion is biting me in the ass. C took a freak nap at school today, and he's currently bouncing off the walls and laughing maniacally three hours into bedtime hell. I FUCKING HATE NAPS.
There is a little boy in E's class who doesn't nap anymore and they have him "help" the director of the school during at least part of nap time so he doesn't have to just lay there. Of course, sometimes something comes up and she can't take him, but he loves hanging out in the office and doing "jobs". Any chance they could try something like that?
I love nap time. My older DS napped until age 5, including at preschool. He needs a lot of sleep.
DS2 needs less, or rather at age 6 and 3 they actually need about the same. Which is convenient since they share a room.
We have just cut naps recently for DS2 because it was affecting his night sleep. He still naps an hour at preschool. I think it's great that they encourage it there.
Ari doesn't nap at home and while I wish he napped, he's actually fine if he wakes at a semi normal time. In the afternoon we do TV time for him to decompress.
When he starts preschool they will have nap time and he will be required to lay down and at least be quiet. I'm betting he will fall asleep once and awhile once he gets used to it. Bedtime will probably begin to suck again once he starts napping.
The preschool Mel was at had a room for the kids that didn't nap. They had quiet time with an audiobook or something playing. I think they still had to lay down or sit and the lights were out so it was at least relaxing.