Bumble Bee forced to pay $6M for worker cooked alive

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OMG

[meshaliuknits]

Aug 13, 2015 11:24:52 GMT -5 @majorwife said:

"This is the worst circumstances of death I have ever, ever witnessed," Deputy District Attorney Hoon Chun tells the AP. "I think any person would prefer to be — if they had to die some way — would prefer to be shot or stabbed than to be slowly cooked in an oven."

Yeah, I'm right with 'em on that.

[iammalcolmx]

They don't use lockout tags when someone is working inside of a machine? WTF???

[josieposy]

DUDE!!

[IIOY]

Good GOD.

[tacosforlife]

$6 million does not seem like enough. Holy fuckballs.

[meshaliuknits]

Aug 13, 2015 11:28:09 GMT -5 iammalcolmx said:

They don't use lockout tags when someone is working inside of a machine? WTF???

Right!?

That's also a confined space. There shoulda been another dude on the outside of the oven keeping watch too.


Or is it two? One for rescue and one for summoning help? I forget, it's been a while.

[picksthemusic]

Holy shit.

[iammalcolmx]

Aug 13, 2015 11:30:19 GMT -5 meshaliuknits said:

Aug 13, 2015 11:28:09 GMT -5 iammalcolmx said:

They don't use lockout tags when someone is working inside of a machine? WTF???

Right!?

That's also a confined space. There shoulda been another dude on the outside of the oven keeping watch too.


Or is it two? One for rescue and one for summoning help? I forget, it's been a while.

Agreed!! What the fuck kind of safety procedures does this place have?

[meshaliuknits]

Aug 13, 2015 11:32:03 GMT -5 iammalcolmx said:

Aug 13, 2015 11:30:19 GMT -5 meshaliuknits said:

Right!?

That's also a confined space. There shoulda been another dude on the outside of the oven keeping watch too.


Or is it two? One for rescue and one for summoning help? I forget, it's been a while.

Agreed!! What the fuck kind of safety procedures does this place have?

None, apparently.

[gpw]

So the family gets $1.5. The same amount as the government? And the family's lawyer(s) will get what around 30% of that. That's fucked up.

[Pom]

The family only got 1.5 million? That seems inadequate for this entirely fucked up situation.

[meshaliuknits]

Aug 13, 2015 11:34:03 GMT -5 @majorwife said:

is it bad that my first thought was 'i hope there was a recall bc i dont want to human parts in my canned tuna'?

a little. But it's why we love you. I imagine the whole batch was scrapped anyway.

[Saudade]

Aug 13, 2015 11:28:09 GMT -5 iammalcolmx said:

They don't use lockout tags when someone is working inside of a machine? WTF???

It says the safety manager broke lockout rules, as in didn't use them at all or ignored them? Eeek either way.

[osulori]

OH MY GOD.

[iammalcolmx]

I am wondering if the settlement was so low because there were safety procedures violated.

ETA: I am really confused here. How exactly did the safety manager break the lockout rules? Were there not any lockout tags?

[josieposy]

Well that eliminates tuna as a lunch possibility.

[gpw]

Aug 13, 2015 11:40:13 GMT -5 iammalcolmx said:

I am wondering if the settlement was so low because there were safety procedures violated.

Possibly, but I think we'd need more info, because from what this says it was the safety manager who violated and the employee was not the safety manager.  

Awful all around.  

[StrawberryBlondie]

6 million seems really low to me.

[saz]

This is horrifying!!!

[iammalcolmx]

Aug 13, 2015 11:42:18 GMT -5 gpw said:

Aug 13, 2015 11:40:13 GMT -5 iammalcolmx said:

I am wondering if the settlement was so low because there were safety procedures violated.

Possibly, but I think we'd need more info, because from what this says it was the safety manager who violated and the employee was not the safety manager.  

Awful all around.  

I have so many questions here!!!

[pixy0stix]

My BIL lost his arms when his boss turned on the auger he was working on. The boss KNEW he was in there, there was another employee standing next to the button to turn it on (didn't lock it out/no way to lock it out) so no one would touch it, and the boss STILL turned it on. He forgot that BIL was working on the machine.

Human fallibility is real. This is why safety measures ALWAYS need to be followed.

[iammalcolmx]

Aug 13, 2015 11:48:27 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

My BIL lost his arms when his boss turned on the auger he was working on. The boss KNEW he was in there, there was another employee standing next to the button to turn it on (didn't lock it out/no way to lock it out) so no one would touch it, and the boss STILL turned it on. He forgot that BIL was working on the machine.

Human fallibility is real. This is why safety measures ALWAYS need to be followed.

You know I work in manufacturing and agree with you 100%. We had someone here get most of his arm ripped off cleaning a machine that was on. One of the Maintenance guys saved his life.

[IIOY]

The guy was 62 so $6m may actually be reasonable.

[meshaliuknits]

Aug 13, 2015 11:49:58 GMT -5 iammalcolmx said:

Aug 13, 2015 11:48:27 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

My BIL lost his arms when his boss turned on the auger he was working on. The boss KNEW he was in there, there was another employee standing next to the button to turn it on (didn't lock it out/no way to lock it out) so no one would touch it, and the boss STILL turned it on. He forgot that BIL was working on the machine.

Human fallibility is real. This is why safety measures ALWAYS need to be followed.

You know I work in manufacturing and agree with you 100%. We had someone here get most of his arm ripped off cleaning a machine that was on. One of the Maintenance guys saved his life.

Yep. Heavy machinery and chemicals are not to be taken lightly. It feels like it gets routine, but, man, you get complacent and sloppy and someone can get hurt.

[iammalcolmx]

Aug 13, 2015 11:56:39 GMT -5 meshaliuknits said:

Aug 13, 2015 11:49:58 GMT -5 iammalcolmx said:

You know I work in manufacturing and agree with you 100%. We had someone here get most of his arm ripped off cleaning a machine that was on. One of the Maintenance guys saved his life.

Yep. Heavy machinery and chemicals are not to be taken lightly. It feels like it gets routine, but, man, you get complacent and sloppy and someone can get hurt.

You are right, it's so scary. I hate all the stories about people falling into Vats of acid. I start running when the Manufacturing Managers start with their stories.

[gpw]

Aug 13, 2015 11:53:54 GMT -5 IIOY said:

The guy was 62 so $6m may actually be reasonable.

Right, but only $1.5 to the family?

[IIOY]

Aug 13, 2015 11:58:41 GMT -5 gpw said:

Aug 13, 2015 11:53:54 GMT -5 IIOY said:

The guy was 62 so $6m may actually be reasonable.

Right, but only $1.5 to the family?

Same answer. Plus, unless I misread, this is a settlement, not a jury verdict.

[suzyp]

Aug 13, 2015 11:58:41 GMT -5 gpw said:

Aug 13, 2015 11:53:54 GMT -5 IIOY said:

The guy was 62 so $6m may actually be reasonable.

Right, but only $1.5 to the family?

But future earnings, etc. would be much, much lower than if he were say, 30.  I don't know if CA has limits on punitive and pain and suffering damages.

[AJL]

Aug 13, 2015 12:09:03 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

I can't even imagine this. 270 degrees isn't that high. How long did it take this poor guy to die??

270 degrees is 58 degrees over the boiling point of water. Human skin will sustain a 3rd degree burn in 5 seconds when exposed to 140 degrees.  I don't think it took him that long to die, but it wasn't instantaneous. The man was roasted.