So David Cameron has been accused of something heinous

[Elsa]

Someone wrote a book and accused him of doing something nasty with a dead pig. Apparently there is photographic evidence somewhere. And now buzzfeed is full of pictures of him holding pigs, other people holding pigs, pigs hanging out, etc.
I am very entertained. They are calling it "piggate". Its trending on twitter.

www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/09/21/david-cameron-piggate-claim/72551554/







I bet he is so pissed that he has so many pictures with pigs right now. Lol

[josieposy]

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Has anyone here watched Black Mirror?

[Cicero]

It's not exactly someone who wrote it as it is Lord Ashcroft, who has the exact same beef with Cameron that Charles Guiteau had with President Garfield. Except instead of shooting him in a train station he's written a book.

[2doxies]

Sept 21, 2015 10:41:03 GMT -5 @slayerkate said:

Has anyone here watched Black Mirror?

YES!!! This is the first thing I thought of. That episode was tough.

[doxies]

Sept 21, 2015 10:41:03 GMT -5 @slayerkate said:

Has anyone here watched Black Mirror?

Yes - this was the only episode I watched and then thought "this show isn't for me".  But it is what I instantly thought of.  How strange.

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Sept 21, 2015 10:49:26 GMT -5 doxies said:

Sept 21, 2015 10:41:03 GMT -5 @slayerkate said:

Has anyone here watched Black Mirror?

Yes - this was the only episode I watched and then thought "this show isn't for me".  But it is what I instantly thought of.  How strange.

I almost didn't watch any of the other episodes either. But they do get better.  There are a couple that are really good.  That first episode though. It's crazy that they chose that to be the first episode to introduce the show.

[lyssbobiss, Command, B613]

Sept 21, 2015 10:41:03 GMT -5 @slayerkate said:

Has anyone here watched Black Mirror?

Exactly my first thought too!

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Sept 21, 2015 10:54:49 GMT -5 @slayerkate said:

Sept 21, 2015 10:49:26 GMT -5 doxies said:

Yes - this was the only episode I watched and then thought "this show isn't for me".  But it is what I instantly thought of.  How strange.

I almost didn't watch any of the other episodes either. But they do get better.  There are a couple that are really good.  That first episode though. It's crazy that they chose that to be the first episode to introduce the show.

I dunno, thats what drew me in to watching the rest of them. I had no idea what it was going to be about, and I had never ever seen anything like that on the TV - disturbing and thoughtful. Not a fun watch, nut very powerful. I thought most of the rest of the episodes were excellent, but the first one set the bar very high as far as being a really unique thing.

[jln]

Sept 21, 2015 10:41:03 GMT -5 @slayerkate said:

Has anyone here watched Black Mirror?

Yep, we got 2 episodes in and decided it's just too weird for us.

[ttt]

I could not stop thinking about that Black Mirror episode for days afterwards. It really upset me. I guess that's good TV? But it didn't really make me want to watch more.

I did watch part of the second one but it bored me to tears halfway through.

[2doxies]

Sept 21, 2015 11:34:46 GMT -5 ttt said:

I could not stop thinking about that Black Mirror episode for days afterwards. It really upset me. I guess that's good TV? But it didn't really make me want to watch more.

I did watch part of the second one but it bored me to tears halfway through.

I agree, it stuck with me for a while after I watched it. I thought the parts where the administration was polling the public and then changes their decisions based on the results were really interesting. As well as when they told him they wouldn't protect him and his family if he didn't go through with it. ::shudder::

[lyssbobiss, Command, B613]

I think we only made it (so far) three episodes into Black Mirror. I'm not against watching the rest but I did declare a house rule of "not before bed." The one with the singing competition really left me feeling awful and I had the worst nightmares ever.

So, do we think this story is invented now because someone saw Black Mirror, or did someone hear the rumor first and write the script loosely based on the story? Because no way is it possible that one didn't affect the other.

[mbcdefg]

blogs.spectator.co.uk/steerpike/2015/09/has-ashcrofts-unnamed-tory-source-been-reading-hunter-s-thompson/ 


Today’s news has been dominated by the claim in Lord Ashcroft’s David Cameron biography that the Prime Minister once had intimate relations with a dead pig. Naturally Cameron has been the subject of much mockery, even though the story has come from only one source, who remains unnamed. While Ashcroft says that the MP who told him the story is well-placed, he also adds by a way of justification that ‘it is an elaborate story for an otherwise credible figure to invent’.



However, could the source simply be well versed in the writings of Hunter S. Thompson? In his election book ‘Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail 72′, the writer chronicled his experiences covering the 1972 presidential campaign. Thompson writes of an old political trick by which one plants an untrue rumour that their opponent is a ‘pig-f—er’ simply so they are forced to deny it:



‘In both the Ohio and Nebraska primaries, back to back, McGovern was confronted for the first time with the politics of the rabbit-punch and the groin shot, and in both states he found himself dangerously vulnerable to this kind of thing. Dirty politics confused him. He was not ready for it….

This is one of the oldest and most effective tricks in politics. Every hack in the business has used it in times of trouble, and it has even been elevated to the level of political mythology in a story about one of Lyndon Johnson’s early campaigns in Texas. The race was close and Johnson was getting worried. Finally he told his campaign manager to start a massive rumor campaign about his opponent’s life-long habit of enjoying carnal knowledge of his own barnyard sows.



“Christ, we can’t get a way calling him a pig-f—er,” the campaign manager protested. “Nobody’s going to believe a thing like that.”



“I know,” Johnson replied. “But let’s make the sonofabitch deny it.”’

No.10 are yet to deny the claim, instead declining to comment.

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Sept 21, 2015 15:46:38 GMT -5 turnipthebeet said:

Sept 21, 2015 10:41:03 GMT -5 @slayerkate said:

Has anyone here watched Black Mirror?

No. What's the association with this story? 

I have linked to the summary of the 1st episode if you want to take a look, it's a full summary so Spoilers!


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_National_Anthem_(Black_Mirror)

[msmerymac]

Sept 21, 2015 10:41:03 GMT -5 @slayerkate said:

Has anyone here watched Black Mirror?

My very first thought.

[oscarnerdjulief]

Sept 21, 2015 10:46:06 GMT -5 Cicero said:

It's not exactly someone who wrote it as it is Lord Ashcroft, who has the exact same beef with Cameron that Charles Guiteau had with President Garfield. Except instead of shooting him in a train station he's written a book.

The anniversary of Garfield's death was yesterday, my birthday.  McKinley's death date was Sept. 14, the same date as Princess Grace's.

#OhioPresidents

[ttt]

They're calling it #baeofpigs

[wise_rita]

Another Black Mirror comment chiming in.