Pope met with Kim Davis secretly

[mrshandy]

www.cnn.com/2015/09/30/us/kim-davis-pope/



CNN)—Kim Davis, the Kentucky clerk who spent six days in jail for refusing to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, met privately with Pope Francis last week during his visit to the United States, her legal team said.

The meeting took place Thursday at the Vatican Embassy in Washington, according to the statement on the Liberty Council website.





Pope Francis and Kim Davis

Mat Staver, the lawyer for Davis, said the session lasted 10 minutes and was just between the Pope, his client and her husband. He said pictures were taken and will be released at some point. He didn't say when or why they weren't being released immediately.

"I was humbled to meet Pope Francis. Of all people, why me?" Davis said in the statement. "Pope Francis was kind, genuinely caring, and very personable. He even asked me to pray for him. Pope Francis thanked me for my courage and told me to 'stay strong.'"

The Vatican has said little about the statement by the Liberty Council.

"We do not confirm nor deny the story. There will be no statement," according to Ciro Benedettini, a Vatican spokesman.



But on Sunday, during a news conference on his flight from Philadelphia to Rome, Francis was asked a question about public officials refusing to carry out their duties as a matter conscience.

No direct mention of Davis was made.

"I can say the conscientious objection is a right that is a part of every human right. It is a right," Francis said. "Conscientious objection must enter into every juridical structure because it is a right, a human right."

A federal judge ordered Davis to jail earlier this month over her refusal to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples in the Kentucky county where she's clerk. Before being ordered to jail, Davis also refused to allow clerks in her office to issue licenses. She cited her biblical opposition to same-sex marriage.

Davis spent six days in jail for contempt of federal court. Since her release, Davis has allowed the licenses to be issued, but only with her name and title removed. Each license includes a statement saying it is issued "pursuant to a court order."

CNN's Nicola Ruotolo, Linh Tran and Kevin Conlon contributed to this report.

[2doxies]

I feel skeptical about this. Until she releases the pics, I'm going to hold off on feeling salty.

[redheadbaker]

I just don't have the love for this Pope that other people seem to have, and this pretty much cements it.

[IIOY]

Sept 30, 2015 6:33:04 GMT -5 mrshandy said:

Mat Staver, the lawyer for Davis, said the session lasted 10 minutes and was just between the Pope, his client and her husband. He said pictures were taken and will be released at some point. He didn't say when or why they weren't being released immediately.

Because they have to find one of those flat Popes for her to pose with.

Why would Kim Davis be interested in the Pope?  Isn't he just an idolator in her world?  This story is weird.

[iammalcolmx]

I don't care, I still love him.

[gpw]

Pics or it didn't happen. She put her face on every other damn thing.

[IIOY]

Sept 30, 2015 6:41:49 GMT -5 gpw said:

Pics or it didn't happen. She put her face on every other damn thing.

Girl, this is the Pope.

[gpw]

Sept 30, 2015 6:42:59 GMT -5 IIOY said:

Sept 30, 2015 6:41:49 GMT -5 gpw said:

Pics or it didn't happen. She put her face on every other damn thing.

Girl, this is the Pope.

Haven't you heard?  This is the selfie Pope! 

[josieposy]

The Vatican cannot confirm nor deny. Of all the things to be mum about, this is that thing?

[ChillyMcFreeze]

She strikes me as the type who doesn't think Catholics are Christians.

[mrshandy]

It was all over Today show today, so I'm going to go with it's probably true. Also, her lawyers are claiming this. If it was just her, then I would say it was probably a lie.


I feel nauseous just looking at this lady. She's the symbol of hatred and you meet with her? Ugh.

[karinothing]

Sept 30, 2015 6:50:16 GMT -5 josieposy said:

The Vatican cannot confirm nor deny. Of all the things to be mum about, this is that thing?

Maybe they don't want to go around calling people liars. I mean even if the pope met with her there is no reason for it to be in secret. And she is not catholic right?
There are just lots of catholics doing good work why waste time with her?

[btdt]

Sept 30, 2015 7:01:58 GMT -5 mrshandy said:

It was all over Today show today, so I'm going to go with it's probably true. Also, her lawyers are claiming this. If it was just her, then I would say it was probably a lie.


I feel nauseous just looking at this lady. She's the symbol of hatred and you meet with her? Ugh.

Her lawyers also claimed that there was a prayer rally in Peru for her with 100,000 people there. Lawyers have since recanted that story, as the pics from the rally in question were from 2014. Yeah, not gonna believe she met with the pope until I see a bit more proof here.

[ttt]

The fact that the Vatican isn't denying this....that's not good.

[heyjude]

Yeah I'm inclined to believe this happened.

[IIOY]

Sept 30, 2015 6:55:29 GMT -5 @majorwife said:

I don't know what the fuck this is but it's oddly freaky and I'm having a reaction similar to when my trypophobia* kicks in.

*IF YOU ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO GOOGLE THIS, DON'T BLAME ME

[jeaniebueller]

If he actually took time out of his schedule to meet with her, that is total bullshit. She isn't even Catholic, right? Ridic.

[ECB]

Sept 30, 2015 7:01:58 GMT -5 mrshandy said:

It was all over Today show today,  

That proves nothing to me.  If they were still an actual news show, maybe....

but really- why her?  If this is true, why HER of all people?

[josieposy]

I hope her husband wore a better hat.

[mrshandy]

Sept 30, 2015 7:28:54 GMT -5 ECB said:

Sept 30, 2015 7:01:58 GMT -5 mrshandy said:

It was all over Today show today,  

That proves nothing to me.  If they were still an actual news show, maybe....

but really- why her?  If this is true, why HER of all people?

True. But it was on NBC news as well. It's on tons of other reputable sources NYT, NPR, etc.

[Velar Fricative]

[cookiemdough]

I hope it isn't true, cause i find her hateful and hurtful and the notion that the one pope I think has put an emphasis on love and tolerance would take the time to meet with her makes me ?

[Deleted]

Thats the thing with this new pope - the more time goes by, the more he seems like a nice guy, but basically the same as the last guy. A very nice paint job - the engine remains the same. Its still an improvement, I suppose. Just...not as much as people seem to think.

[cookiemdough]

Sept 30, 2015 7:57:30 GMT -5 @eveer said:

Thats the thing with this new pope - the more time goes by, the more he seems like a nice guy, but basically the same as the last guy. A very nice paint job - the engine remains the same. Its still an improvement, I suppose. Just...not as much as people seem to think.

Stop ruining my dreams!!!!!

[karinothing]

Even if they did meet who knows what the pope said. I mean yes, the Church is against gay marriage. That is not new information. But he could have told her to treat people with respect and dignity. Who knows. I highly doubt he was like "keep sticking it to the gays!"

[Saudade]

Is she even Catholic? I didn't think she was.

And so what? It may give her more credibility in the religious world but she still has to do her job.

[aurora]

This is...weird.

[Deleted]

Sept 30, 2015 8:23:01 GMT -5 karinothing said:

Even if they did meet who knows what the pope said. I mean yes, the Church is against gay marriage. That is not new information. But he could have told her to treat people with respect and dignity. Who knows. I highly doubt he was like "keep sticking it to the gays!"

This is a good point but unfortunately if no details are ever released about their conversation then the story of his meeting with her basically just legitimizes what she did (or at least her "conscientious objector" spin on it).

[ttt]

If he did meet with her, no matter what he said to her, it gives her huge legitimacy. And that would make me extremely disappointed.

[miniroller]

The only way I can rationalize this in my still-kinda-doubtful-this-actually-happened-head is the pope assumed she was coming to seek forgiveness, & being the extremely loving, forgiving man he is, he let her in. Then they met, & now he's doing his best not to show this face, which appears every time her name comes up. Pretty sure that's the account, not really interested in hearing variations.