Cure me of my racism...please

[imoan]

I'm on board for some white-on-white crime... you know, to broaden this chick's horizons a little. It's really a public service.

You're welcome!

[unsurebeme]

Aug 23, 2012 8:38:19 GMT -5 cjoy said:

Would you like to be the victim of a crime perpetuated by a white person? I'm sure we can work something out...

Sure, if you could arrange for another friend to be murdered and more of my shit to be stolen, that'd be great. kthxsuckit.

[unsurebeme]

Aug 23, 2012 8:53:12 GMT -5 sunflower22 said:

You can't fix/cure stupid. Sorry! Wtf were you expecting with this post??

I was expecting some replies that flamed me, some irrelevant replies (thanks for helping with that) and some replies that would give me actual food for thought (which there were).

[runforrest]

Huh.

While I'm sorry that these things have happened to you, they could have happened anywhere, really. It's not because of the AAs in the city. Such a sad generalization.

[leeann]

Aug 23, 2012 9:04:08 GMT -5 unsurebeme said:

Aug 23, 2012 8:53:12 GMT -5 sunflower22 said:

You can't fix/cure stupid. Sorry! Wtf were you expecting with this post??

I was expecting some replies that flamed me, some irrelevant replies (thanks for helping with that) and some replies that would give me actual food for thought (which there were).

I'm assuming that your OP and all of your subsequent posts were designed to incite the type of responses that you've received. Therefore, it's a tad ridiculous for you to tell people to suckit or render some replies as irrelevant.

[laptopvixen]

I had to login to lol @ amber's comment.

And the OP is clearly trolling, kthanxbai.

[ECB]

Aug 23, 2012 9:05:27 GMT -5 Que? said:

I'm laughing at some of these responses but I'm also pretty uncomfortable about the fact that we can't talk about this. The OP is cognizant of the fact that she isn't entirely justified in her perspective.

Why doesn't someone explain to her why she's being offensive (with the AA thing for example), she might learn something.

Thank you. I'm sitting here reading some of these replies and thinking that this woman is owning up to her problem, she wants to talk about it, but everyone wants to jump on the "WTF" bandwagon and shame her.

[Deleted]

it's not anyone else's job to cure you. nor would a "cure" imposed by someone else necessarily be effective. you understand that you're objectively screwed up in your thinking, so cure yourself.

think about people as individuals, not merely members of a collective to which you assign them based on what you think they look like/how much money they have/where they live. stop thinking about people who don't look like you/live like you as an "other."

but most of all, stop putting the onus on things external to yourself to cure your own deficiencies. if you want to learn about other people's backgrounds/cultures/homes/lifestyles, seek out that information. but it's not about them fixing you. it's bad enough that there are people in the world burdened by prejudice. don't burden them with the responsibility to make you a more whole person. this isn't a lifetime movie or even an exellent clint eastwood drama.

[Nicole]

We can talk about this.

OP, you are looking at your world through a pin hole. There are crimes committed ALL OVER THE WORLD BY ALL RACES, RELIGIONS, ETC. Just because you have been "exposed" to what you think is a limited group of similar people does not mean that it's not happening everywhere by all kinds of groups.

Let's use my region as an example. In the Orange County, Santa Ana most major crimes are committed by people of Latino decent.
In South Central LA, it may be Africian American. In Fresno, it's probably the white folk that are on meth.

[LLL]

I'm sorry that you and your family members have experienced such horrible things recently. I don't know how anyone here can help you "cure" your racism but I definitely do think you need to work on your issues as a result as what you have experienced.
Bad things happen, that's just a fact of life. living in fear and hatred is not going to change any of that

[blahblah]

Mrs. Zimmerman? Is that you?

[lemondrop]

Aug 23, 2012 8:04:53 GMT -5 dcannie said:

Aug 23, 2012 7:58:40 GMT -5 @amber said:

You should be totally fine- my husbands parents have a black neighbor and he's really nice. Has a super nice yard, and everything.

i am for real laughing. this is why amber is one of the best.

Thank God it was a joke!

[scotty]

I hate that you think this way, too. It's easy reasoning. Not all people are a certain way.

[Jermys]

This really scares me for my kids' futures. People are irrationally going to hate/fear my children because of something they can't change, and that makes me incredibly sad. Freddie isn't always going to be an adorable baby...he'll be a man, a black man, and women will clutch their purses tighter when he walks past. Not because he'll be a scumbag, but because he's black. You're only seeing color, you're not looking at the individual person. I guarantee if you met Edith's birthdad or any of her uncles, or Freddie's uncle, or my cousins, you would love them. They're kind, sweet, good men. But they're black, so you'd have to look past that.

[chedominique]

Aug 23, 2012 9:05:27 GMT -5 Que? said:

I'm laughing at some of these responses but I'm also pretty uncomfortable about the fact that we can't talk about this. The OP is cognizant of the fact that she isn't entirely justified in her perspective.

Why doesn't someone explain to her why she's being offensive (with the AA thing for example), she might learn something.

She's being offensive by assuming that one race commits crimes. If she were to see me on the street (even though I'm considered light skin for my race) would she run because she looked at my race? There are other African American people on this board and others who have kids who are African American. I really don't get into the racism talk, but when someone comes out and says this mess, it makes me mad. Yes she admitted it, but it still doesn't make it right.

Saying you understand other races commit crimes then say "cure me of my racism" doesn't help her case.

Look at people as a whole, not their race. It doesn't matter where you go, crime comes in all colors and ages. No one can cure her of her racism. She has to want that for herself. Maybe therapy will help. I dunno.

[Deleted]

i am DYING that there's a wiki on this. DYING.

[tulip]

I don't get this at all. If you want to live in a lesser/safer area check the crime ratings. Call the police department in the area you want to live in & ask for statistics.

You shouldn't be worried about who lives in the area but the crime rate. This is bizarre to me.

Oh & since I'm white, have fun living next to the white trash in the trailer park cooking up Meth.... See how it goes both way? White people have crime, lots of it! Or you could be living next to the next serial killer.... They are mostly white.

[Nicole]

I love you suesue.

OP, you should have spelled out Africian American. I feel like it was a bit disrespectful not to.

[Deleted]

I'm pretty sure no one wants you in their neighborhood anyway. Racism tends to correlate with a lack of education and with poverty. Don't bring that shit into my community. It's bad for property values.

ETA - I am also not sure what anyone can suggest to make this woman less racist. If she is associating black people with crime that's selective perception and she is filtering out information inconsistent with what her prestablished view. The POTUS is black. It's not like there isn't an example of a black person who doesn't commit crimes on her television and on the front page of the newspaper every single day. She's choosing to ignore that because it is inconsistent with her own views. Hopeless.

[unsurebeme]

Aug 23, 2012 9:11:16 GMT -5 Nicole said:

We can talk about this.

OP, you are looking at your world through a pin hole. There are crimes committed ALL OVER THE WORLD BY ALL RACES, RELIGIONS, ETC. Just because you have been "exposed" to what you think is a limited group of similar people does not mean that it's not happening everywhere by all kinds of groups.

Let's use my region as an example. In the Orange County, Santa Ana most major crimes are committed by people of Latino decent.
In South Central LA, it may be Africian American. In Fresno, it's probably the white folk that are on meth.

Yes, I can definitely see how I am limited in my vision.

Look, I did not say I was correct in how I feel. I obviously know I am not. I am bothered by the fact I have begun thinking this way, and while "cure" was not the right way to phrase the title post, I am getting some perspective I was to limited within myself to have.

At church (roll your eyes if you must), a visiting pastor recently said having prejudiced thoughts is not the problem. The probelm is if you do not address these thoughts head on and attempt to resolve them within yourself....which is what I am trying to do.

I'm not using this board as the end all, be all on my issue. I just threw it out here for some feedback.

[peekay]

Read a book and get some education. Voila! You're cured!!!

[laptopvixen]

Aug 23, 2012 9:14:12 GMT -5 lemondrop said:

Aug 23, 2012 8:04:53 GMT -5 dcannie said:

i am for real laughing. this is why amber is one of the best.

Thank God it was a joke!

Please unclench.

[Nicole]

Aug 23, 2012 9:20:51 GMT -5 elle said:

I'm pretty sure no one wants you in their neighborhood anyway. Racism tends to correlate with a lack of education and with poverty. Don't bring that shit into my community. It's bad for property values.

:heart:

[laptopvixen]

Oh go read a book or something.

feedback my ass

[marynjoe]

Let's all cool down on the haterade and try to help the OP. She said "I hate that I think this way." She knows her thoughts aren't rational and she is hoping for some intelligent discourse to help her see things in an unbiased manner.

To the OP, remember that we only tend to hear the bad stuff. In the same time that they show robberies and killings, they could show how a woman is helping provide food for her neighbors, or how a community built a wheelchair ramp for an elderly widow. But they don't, because that isn't exciting. If you got to know the city, you'd find many examples of good people doing good things.

Crimes are committed by all people of all types. If everyone in an area is black, the crimes are probably committed by someone who is black. In an area where everyone is white, crimes are probably committed by someone who is white. Same for Asian, Hispanic....

As for where you live, I'd look at where I'd be happiest living. It's about the neighborhood, schools, crime, shopping, you name it. More than just the ethnicity of the residents. Take everything into perspective and don't let one aspect mar your judgement. As for the mostly white city you're considering, look into it's crime statistics. I'm sure there will be crime there as well.

[unsurebeme]

Aug 23, 2012 9:17:18 GMT -5 chedominique said:

Aug 23, 2012 9:05:27 GMT -5 Que? said:

I'm laughing at some of these responses but I'm also pretty uncomfortable about the fact that we can't talk about this. The OP is cognizant of the fact that she isn't entirely justified in her perspective.

Why doesn't someone explain to her why she's being offensive (with the AA thing for example), she might learn something.

She's being offensive by assuming that one race commits crimes. If she were to see me on the street (even though I'm considered light skin for my race) would she run because she looked at my race? There are other African American people on this board and others who have kids who are African American. I really don't get into the racism talk, but when someone comes out and says this mess, it makes me mad. Yes she admitted it, but it still doesn't make it right.

Saying you understand other races commit crimes then say "cure me of my racism" doesn't help her case.

Look at people as a whole, not their race. It doesn't matter where you go, crime comes in all colors and ages. No one can cure her of her racism. She has to want that for herself. Maybe therapy will help. I dunno.

At what point did I say one race commits crimes?

I do want that for myself. I'm trying to get there.

I live in a diverse community now, and I am not scared...not in the slightest. The area we were considering moving to close is closer to the city, and it bothers me that I am no longer considering it because what has transpired over the past year.

[unsurebeme]

Aug 23, 2012 9:26:19 GMT -5 marynjoe said:

Let's all cool down on the haterade and try to help the OP. She said "I hate that I think this way." She knows her thoughts aren't rational and she is hoping for some intelligent discourse to help her see things in an unbiased manner.

To the OP, remember that we only tend to hear the bad stuff. In the same time that they show robberies and killings, they could show how a woman is helping provide food for her neighbors, or how a community built a wheelchair ramp for an elderly widow. But they don't, because that isn't exciting. If you got to know the city, you'd find many examples of good people doing good things.

Crimes are committed by all people of all types. If everyone in an area is black, the crimes are committed by someone who is black. In an area where everyone is white, crimes are committed by someone who is white.

As for where you live, I'd look at where I'd be happiest living. It's about the neighborhood, schools, crime, shopping, you name it. More than just the ethnicity of the residents. Take everything into perspective and don't let one aspect mar your judgement. As for the mostly white city you're considering, look into it's crime statistics. I'm sure there will be crime there as well.

As obvious as this is, I kind of ignored this.

ETA: Looking at crime statistics is a good idea.

I may have well just had a run of bad luck this past year. I don't know. Thanks.

[LLL]

Aug 23, 2012 9:26:22 GMT -5 unsurebeme said:

Aug 23, 2012 9:17:18 GMT -5 chedominique said:

She's being offensive by assuming that one race commits crimes. If she were to see me on the street (even though I'm considered light skin for my race) would she run because she looked at my race? There are other African American people on this board and others who have kids who are African American. I really don't get into the racism talk, but when someone comes out and says this mess, it makes me mad. Yes she admitted it, but it still doesn't make it right.

Saying you understand other races commit crimes then say "cure me of my racism" doesn't help her case.

Look at people as a whole, not their race. It doesn't matter where you go, crime comes in all colors and ages. No one can cure her of her racism. She has to want that for herself. Maybe therapy will help. I dunno.

At what point did I say one race commits crimes?

I do want that for myself. I'm trying to get there.

I live in a diverse community now, and I am not scared...not in the slightest. The area we were considering moving to close is closer to the city, and it bothers me that I am no longer considering it because what has transpired over the past year.

stop being defensive

[marynjoe]

I just went back and fixed that before you said something. Crime statistics show that people tend to commit crimes near to where they live.

As for me, we live in a diverse neighborhood. I like it here.

[unsurebeme]

Aug 23, 2012 9:16:57 GMT -5 Jermys said:

This really scares me for my kids' futures. People are irrationally going to hate/fear my children because of something they can't change, and that makes me incredibly sad. Freddie isn't always going to be an adorable baby...he'll be a man, a black man, and women will clutch their purses tighter when he walks past. Not because he'll be a scumbag, but because he's black. You're only seeing color, you're not looking at the individual person. I guarantee if you met Edith's birthdad or any of her uncles, or Freddie's uncle, or my cousins, you would love them. They're kind, sweet, good men. But they're black, so you'd have to look past that.

It is irrational, and I hope to fully deal with my issues before I have kids.