Tritto. I think O'Malley may have a little crush on Hillary. There were times when he looked like he was gazing at her. I'll bet they'd make a great team!
Who doesn't?
Also, add me to the list of people excited about Clinton/O'Malley.
Is Vegas considered a sustainable city now? Did I hear O'Malley correctly? (Keeping in mind that DH still hasn't taken me to Vegas, so I can't personally vouch for this.)
(So far behind here....) I don't know for sure but I wouldn't be surprised. It's hot as fuck, there's no water, it's full of wasteful tourists and it's a very greedy city. Perfect conditions for becoming energy efficient...
With that said, it was very back and forth between the two. Both did great, and I'm RIDICULOUSLY curious to how the post debate polls will go.
Coming in late here; just saw debate highlights. But wanted to let you know the group of 20 "undecideds" that CNN were showing in the post-show exactly reflected your ambiguity. Lots of wavering hands in the raised hand votes between the two. Just to let you know you're not alone
ETA: they just interviewed 3 guys who turned from undecided to Sanders; now I'm not nearly as gleeful
Again, I think Hil will kick ass in a major way, both with Congress (whatever can be done in the next three years, that is) & on a world stage. She has the experience, know-how, & the charisma to Get Things Done! I'd bet my life she has a more productively successful presidency than Sanders.
Hey I'm so far behind on my CEPing!! But I CANNOT believe people have lady boners for O'Mally!! Were we watching the same debate?! Because everyone in my debate party thought he was dull as dry toast and very attack heavy on HRC. He's not going to be VP! Aside from his close he was not even an entity!!!
I didn't read the thread but did we discuss how Don Lemon asked the black lives matter question and some Latino guy asked the immigration campaign? WTF CNN.
Hey I'm so far behind on my CEPing!! But I CANNOT believe people have lady boners for O'Mally!! Were we watching the same debate?! Because everyone in my debate party thought he was dull as dry toast and very attack heavy on HRC. He's not going to be VP! Aside from his close he was not even an entity!!!
Post by WanderingWinoZ on Oct 14, 2015 6:42:29 GMT -5
I watched about 1.5 hours & had seen enough.
I agree that HRC did well when I watched. Bernie just seemed like a crazy old man- I agree with a lot of his ideas & appreciate that the defended HRC on the email thing.
O'Malley looked good but when he started talking, I was generally displeased. I don't see him as a VP nominee- too much baggage/history with the black community given his time in Baltimore, but maybe some of our locals can chime in on that- was he generally liked/hated there?
The other 2 old while men just seemed crazy...
And WTF to the black/latino questioning by a black/latino...
Post by WanderingWinoZ on Oct 14, 2015 8:09:11 GMT -5
The stats...
28 min, 10 sec. How much time former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton got to talk at last night’s Democratic debate, the longest of any candidate. Runner-up Sen. Bernie Sanders talked for 26 minutes, 19 seconds, while rounding errors Martin O’Malley, Jim Webb and that other guy, whatever his name is, all talked for 15 minutes or less. [ABC News]
Post by WanderingWinoZ on Oct 14, 2015 8:11:31 GMT -5
TPM
As I noted last night, Hillary Clinton turned in a very solid debate performance. She was polished, turned away questions about what would seem to be her greatest vulnerabilities with confident and convincing pivots and more than anything else she had the feel of a candidate on the rebound. As I also wrote last night, the collapse of the 'Benghazi' committee and its associated nonsense came at the perfect moment for her. The debate would have had a very different feel to it had it been held six weeks ago.
We were running Insight polls overnight and this morning, gauging reactions to the debate and re-testing Democratic primary preference questions we've been running for the last four months. Based on those results I would expect you'll see Hillary get a substantial boost in the polls coming out of night's first debate.
Let me give you a basic breakdown.
First, Bernie Sanders had a really good night too. Just based on my own impression, if you're a fan of Bernie Sanders or someone whose politics make you at all amenable to being a fan of Bernie Sanders, you like what you saw. I saw some commentators say he started wobbly and then got stronger over the course of the night. I didn't see that. He seemed strong throughout. And our numbers show that his already high favorability numbers actually went up significantly. His unfavorables, already low, plummeted. Remember, even if you're a Democratic news junkie and know about Sanders and his campaign, there are many people for whom this was the first time seeing speak live for a substantial amount of time.
Hillary's favorability numbers also went up, but not dramatically. Where you see the difference is on candidate preference where her support shot up a lot. She took some support from Sanders, but not much. Where she got most of her support was from people who'd been supporting Joe Biden (obviously not even in the race) and people who'd moved into the undecided column. Another way to put this is that she managed to consolidate her natural support which had frayed considerably over the months of pillorying over the email stories. As I said, she did very well and expect this performance to drive her poll numbers a lot.
I'd be extremely happy with a Clinton/O'Malley ticket.
I am not sure I see it. He's smoked pot and has other possible sexing scandal skeletons. Not sure how he'd play. Plus white guy from a blue state in midatlantic.
A new "new deal." ESF was right, Dems' Regan is FDR.
I admit to being biased toward my President, but if this debate is any indicator, combined with the way time makes people nostalgic, I give it 3 election cycles before Obama is the Dem version of Reagan.
except for education (RTTT) & resigning of patriot act.
Hey I'm so far behind on my CEPing!! But I CANNOT believe people have lady boners for O'Mally!! Were we watching the same debate?! Because everyone in my debate party thought he was dull as dry toast and very attack heavy on HRC. He's not going to be VP! Aside from his close he was not even an entity!!!
Say what now?
He was practically about to offer to make her a snack while she and Bernie went at it.