Westboro Baptist Church vs. Kim Davis

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Ha!


Westboro Baptist Church to picket Kim Davis’ office

The Westboro Baptist Church plans on visiting the home of Kim Davis on Monday. Davis is the Kentucky clerk who spent six days in jail for refusing to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. The church says she is a “proud, self-righteous hypocrite” and an “adulterer.”

The church and Kim Davis both stand against gay marriage.

A portion of the church’s press release states:

That man that Kim Davis is living with, and calling her husband, IS NOT! Her husband is Dwain Wallace, who she married when she was 18-tears-old. It does not matter how many years you pile on! It was adultery at the beginning, adultery in the middle and it is indeed adultery today!

The church is known for protesting funerals and other notable events, its members holding signs with inflammatory inscriptions such as “God hates fags.”

Davis’ critics zero in on her personal life, wondering how she can take a stand against same-sex marriage when she’s been married four times, including twice to the same man. They argue it’s hard to make a case that you’re standing up for the sanctity of marriage after three divorces.

For Davis, the answer is simple. That was before she became an Apostolic Christian — a branch of the faith that follows a strict moral code. She says she’s a different person now. She had a religious conversion Davis became a Christian 4½ years ago and attends Solid Rock Apostolic Church in Moorhead, Kentucky. It’s that obedience, she said, that prevents her from issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

A federal judge ordered Davis to jail in September over her refusal to issue marriage licenses with her name on them to same-sex couples in her county. Before being ordered to jail, Davis also refused to allow clerks in her office to issue licenses. She cited her biblical opposition to same-sex marriage.

Davis spent six days in jail for contempt of federal court. Since her release, Davis has allowed the licenses to be issued, but only with her name and title removed. Each license includes a statement saying it is issued “pursuant to a court order.”

The ACLU has filed a motion in federal court claiming Davis’ actions are interfering with the licenses in defiance of a federal order, possibly making them invalid.

The Westboro Baptist church tweets:

“Lord willing, we will visit Kim Davis on Monday with some friendly, Christianly advice/wisdom:”

fox2now.com/2015/10/16/westboro-baptist-church-to-picket-kim-davis-office-over-adultery/

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She didn't become a Christian until 4 years ago right? So her current husband is her only husband since becoming a Christian? Then how is she an adulterer? Technically, her prior marriages weren't even marriages in the eyes of God, since you can't make a covenant with Him if you don't even know Him.

With that said, I think Kim Davis is attention-seeking and totally annoying. I just don't get WBC's position here (as if I ever get them). You can't punish a believer for their behavior prior to salvation.

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Oct 16, 2015 20:26:08 GMT -5 lurkingaw said:

She didn't become a Christian until 4 years ago right? So her current husband is her only husband since becoming a Christian? Then how is she an adulterer? Technically, her prior marriages weren't even marriages in the eyes of God, since you can't make a covenant with Him if you don't even know Him.

With that said, I think Kim Davis is attention-seeking and totally annoying. I just don't get WBC's position here (as if I ever get them). You can't punish a believer for their behavior prior to salvation.

Umm yeah, that's true that she converted about 4 years ago. What's interesting though, is that apparently before she converted, she was a Baptist! 

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It's probably petty, but if I were on my laptop I'd find and post that eating popcorn gif.

ETA because I'd be very amused to watch Kim and Westboro try to take each other down.

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A bit more info with snippets from the WBC

www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/10/15/westboro-baptist-church-will-picket-outside-kim-davis-office-because-shes-a-fake-christian/

Westboro Baptist Church Will Picket Outside Kim Davis’ Office Because She’s a “Fake Christian”

October 15, 2015 by Hemant Mehta 240 Comments


I think Westboro Baptist Church is awful and I think Kim Davis is a bigot. But if the “God Hates Fags” people want to protest someone famous for denying gay people marriage licenses, there’s something deeply poetic about it in a weird, twisted way.

The church plans to picket outside the Rowan County Courthouse where Davis works on Monday morning because… well… just take a look at WBC’s rambling explanation:



As it happened, the Supreme Court of the United States, fulfilling their destiny, made same-sex marriage the law of the land. The duty of all mankind is to OBEY the laws of God and the laws of man. Enter, Kim Davis. Rowan County Kentucky Clerk, with high-dollar salary and digs, she acquired, ONLY after she took an oath to uphold and defend the constitution and the laws. Kim claims that she has lived in proud sin for many years, divorcing and remarrying, not one time or two times, in fact you need a score card to keep track. Her lawyers, being smooth talking fellows say that all that was before her call to salvation two years ago when her current mother-in-law died.

Nice, tidy, cleaver, but no cigar!

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… That man that Kim Davis is living with and calling her husband, IS NOT! Her husband is Dwain Wallace, who she married when she was 18-years-old. It does not matter how many years you pile on, it was adultery at the beginning and it was adultery in the middle and it is indeed adultery today!


Here’s where it gets really interesting. Westboro says Davis sinned because she committed adultery, and sin is what’s led God away from us, so they end up advocating for Davis to give gay people the licenses they deserve. She helped usher in this modern tragedy, they say, so she might as well reap what she sowed.


If Kim Davis received mercy from God and grace, as she claims, she would, with all due haste put her sin away. She would mourn for her sins, and in a show of great mercy, she would be busy apologizing to the fags for enabling them, and she would, with all diligence, give those perverts a marriage license.

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The Supreme Court, in the providence of God, and for the punishment of this nation, has declared that same-sex marriage IS the law of Doomed USA. So DO IT!! You asked for it, you begged for it by your disobedience and refusal to receive correction or instruction, so take it and like it!


Just note Kim Davis … God will NEVER have Same-Sex Marriage, but he does not require YOU to disobey to deal with this nation. As these words are typed, the nation faces relentless, never-seen fires in the west and hurricane force never-seen flooding and storms in the east. AND, God sends the shooter again and again. God has HIS weapons in HIS armory, so Kim Davis needs to HUSH and OBEY the law that she helped bring about.


I don’t know whether to thank Westboro members for their support or be sickened by how multiple wrongs somehow made a right.

There’s something about the enemy of my enemy that I just can’t wrap my head around right now.


At least for once, there won’t be any talk about a counter-protest. The people who normally oppose Westboro aren’t about to defend Kim Davis. She’s on her own for this one.

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Oct 16, 2015 21:58:03 GMT -5 YeahSure said:

Oct 16, 2015 20:26:08 GMT -5 lurkingaw said:

She didn't become a Christian until 4 years ago right? So her current husband is her only husband since becoming a Christian? Then how is she an adulterer? Technically, her prior marriages weren't even marriages in the eyes of God, since you can't make a covenant with Him if you don't even know Him.

With that said, I think Kim Davis is attention-seeking and totally annoying. I just don't get WBC's position here (as if I ever get them). You can't punish a believer for their behavior prior to salvation.

Umm yeah, that's true that she converted about 4 years ago. What's interesting though, is that apparently before she converted, she was a Baptist! 

I didn't know that. I haven't followed her story at all.

But regardless, there are Biblical grounds for divotce, such as a cheating spouse, so I don't think it's fair to call all divorcees adulterers.

WBC and Kim Davis can both fade into abscurity for all I care.

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All I could think was well, she wanted attention. This seems perfect that she has attracted the exact assholes she deserves.

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Oct 17, 2015 9:41:21 GMT -5 Pom said:

All I could think was well, she wanted attention. This seems perfect that she has attracted the exact assholes she deserves.

True but I really don't want that group of vile...people to have any more publicity.

[Pom]

Oct 17, 2015 10:21:23 GMT -5 secretlyevil said:

Oct 17, 2015 9:41:21 GMT -5 Pom said:

All I could think was well, she wanted attention. This seems perfect that she has attracted the exact assholes she deserves.

True but I really don't want that group of vile...people to have any more publicity.

Agreed. WBC protesters are disgusting and so is she. All of that hate and misguided religious crazy needs to stop. How can you call yourself Christians and treat other people like they do. They are sick.

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Oct 17, 2015 11:06:48 GMT -5 Pom said:

Oct 17, 2015 10:21:23 GMT -5 secretlyevil said:

True but I really don't want that group of vile...people to have any more publicity.

Agreed. WBC protesters are disgusting and so is she. All of that hate and misguided religious crazy needs to stop. How can you call yourself Christians and treat other people like they do. They are sick.

Quite obviously not asking themselves WWJD None of them. Sick, hateful hearts.

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Oct 17, 2015 7:16:48 GMT -5 lurkingaw said:

Oct 16, 2015 21:58:03 GMT -5 YeahSure said:

Umm yeah, that's true that she converted about 4 years ago. What's interesting though, is that apparently before she converted, she was a Baptist! 

I didn't know that. I haven't followed her story at all.

But regardless, there are Biblical grounds for divotce, such as a cheating spouse, so I don't think it's fair to call all divorcees adulterers.

WBC and Kim Davis can both fade into abscurity for all I care.

Where does the Bible say that adultery is grounds for divorce?

I was under the impression that Jesus overrode the marriage laws laid down in the Old Testament and said there is no justification for divorce (Mark 10), and the only exception referenced in the New Testament was provided by Paul (1 Corinthians 7:15) and it has nothing to do with adultery.

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Oct 17, 2015 19:06:38 GMT -5 nursecramer said:

Oct 17, 2015 7:16:48 GMT -5 lurkingaw said:

I didn't know that. I haven't followed her story at all.

But regardless, there are Biblical grounds for divotce, such as a cheating spouse, so I don't think it's fair to call all divorcees adulterers.

WBC and Kim Davis can both fade into abscurity for all I care.

Where does the Bible say that adultery is grounds for divorce?

I was under the impression that Jesus overrode the marriage laws laid down in the Old Testament and said there is no justification for divorce (Mark 10), and the only exception referenced in the New Testament was provided by Paul (1 Corinthians 7:15) and it has nothing to do with adultery.

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