Props to the first woman for speaking about it. Such bullshit that all this attention is paid to a mans sex drive, but women are left to fend for themselves.
I think I heard about this on John Oliver's show? He pointed out that you can't drink alcohol while using it, and it's a pill that you have to take every day for it to work. Might dissuade some users.
Only working for 50% of women who take it seems kinda crappy to get approval, also. But I guess it's better than nothing for the people it works for?
Post by decemberwedding07 on Oct 17, 2015 21:16:09 GMT -5
They talked about this at length on the Diane Rehm show. thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2015-06-08/risks-and-benefits-of-so-called-viagra-for-women As someone who has experienced a gigantic drop in her sex drive for periods of time, it's devastating. That being said, I hate to think of anyone taking this without being fully aware of all of the risks associated with its use.
The solution isn’t a drug, they argue. It’s another glass of wine. Or more chocolate.
FUCK this fucking shit. Fuck it.
This really was the most upsetting quote from the whole thing. What about all the women out there thinking that already and throwing back glass after glass, hoping to feel aroused, but just feeling sick and drunk as shit?
I don't think the drug, flibanserin, is that great. It's not that effective and it has some risks. But it's better than nothing. Still, it was able to get approval and if it is also profitable then there will certainly be other, better drugs to come.
I'm glad that this solution is out there for the women who want it, and hope it brings them some relief.
But I imagine this is going to hurt more women than help. Sometimes normal, healthy females just don't want to bang every night, and I fear a lot of when will be pressured into medication when there's absolutely nothing wrong with them.
I would hope, like other dugs.that work to treat depression, people would also be encouraged to look into any other personal or relationship causes for low sex drive.
I'm glad it's there for those who want to try but I do feel squicky about using a drug to help people live up to the sex drive of their partner or some idealized fantasy. It's complicated though. Are people happy enough not having sex and only unhappy about it in terms of what is expected of them by a partner or society? Do they miss their sex lives or do they feel bad about letting their husband down? And if, without a relationship in which a woman needs to please someone, her lack of sex drive doesn’t bother her, should she take a pill with side effects to correct that? When would she stop taking it? When his sex drive drops off? Then it"s ok? I don't know where I am on this one.
Anecdote: I keep thinking of two friends in particular, who always said they were waiting desperately for a pill for their sex drives. One has been married about 9ish years and was never super in love with her husband, it was just that they were both in their thirties and were friends, so they were like...um, let's get married and have babies? The second one has been married about 15 years and she is just tired of having sex with the same man. She'll just tell you straight out it's boring and she never looks forward to it because it's a chore. I never comment when they bring up a pill, I just always think it's not really the answer. Or maybe it is. What do I know?
Post by omgzombies on Oct 18, 2015 10:26:25 GMT -5
I just want to know if these concerns were brought up when viagra went on the market. Were people worried that men were being pressured into having sex when their bodies natural libido was on the decline? Were people worried about them using it to make up for depression or just a natural lack of sex drive. I think the differences in how this is discussed are incredibly interesting.
Take it or don't, I like the fact that it is being made available, as I'm sure there are some women out there who could get some use out of it, whether it's because their natural libido is lower than they'd like, or because they need to take other medication that artificially suppresses their sex drive. You and your doctor can figure out if it's a viable option, it's none of my business.
I also think it's interesting (not disagreeing) that so many of us initially worry that women might feel pressure to use this drug to please men, while I've never once heard anyone concerned about men facing risks with viagra because of their SOs expecting them to perform, nor do we automatically expect men to look into all the other causes of ED before requesting the little blue pill (for example, I doubt doctors are saying, "well, mr smith, have you thought about the emotional reasons you aren't connecting with your wife? Also funny because some causes of ED are actually life-threatening health conditions) which I think says a lot about our societal structure.
This is absolutely not true, by the way. As someone who has dealt with a partner who experienced ED in an otherwise very happy and healthy marriage, let me just say that, at least IME, doctors are not just giving out pills to men willy nilly. It took almost a year of appointments and a near full destruction of our sex life for DH to finally get a script and for doctors to stop telling him that it was due to external factors like stress, pressure from his wife leading to anxiety, etc.
it seems like forever ago that Viagra came on the market but I remember people commenting on the health and social issues of men trying to get boners when psychically/medically it might not be what they should be striving for.
I am glad both are on the market, honestly. I just think our sex culture sucks in a lot of ways, still.
Post by orriskitten on Oct 18, 2015 16:55:04 GMT -5
I'm glad this is on the market. As someone who truly had issues with low sex drive after having a very fulfilling sex life, I had some legitimate depression because I just couldn't desire sex. I could have it and had/have an amazing relationship with DH, but my body just didn't physically desire sex. It was jarring and upset me for a long time. The lack of me wanting it just struck me so hard, I just didn't want anything to do with it, even if I was solo, it just didn't appeal to me.
Luckily i found the culprit (being on birth control), but it took almost 5 years to figure it out. Granted, I didn't seek further help because I figured there was nothing anyone could do. Add to that I'm diabetic and low libido is a known result of diabetes, I just figured I was out of luck. It's great to know that there is something that someone like me could try. It doesn't sound perfect, but it is promising.
I'm either borderline asexual or have an extremely low sex drive. I'm not sure which.
I really wish I had a higher sex drive. I enjoy sex, so I have no issues having sex when H wants it, but I never just want sex. Ever. I think it would be nice to want it, not just enjoy it when it happens.
I also think it's interesting (not disagreeing) that so many of us initially worry that women might feel pressure to use this drug to please men, while I've never once heard anyone concerned about men facing risks with viagra because of their SOs expecting them to perform, nor do we automatically expect men to look into all the other causes of ED before requesting the little blue pill (for example, I doubt doctors are saying, "well, mr smith, have you thought about the emotional reasons you aren't connecting with your wife? Also funny because some causes of ED are actually life-threatening health conditions) which I think says a lot about our societal structure.
This is absolutely not true, by the way. As someone who has dealt with a partner who experienced ED in an otherwise very happy and healthy marriage, let me just say that, at least IME, doctors are not just giving out pills to men willy nilly. It took almost a year of appointments and a near full destruction of our sex life for DH to finally get a script and for doctors to stop telling him that it was due to external factors like stress, pressure from his wife leading to anxiety, etc.
This is so interesting to me. I see doctors handing out Viagra like candy. I even had a doctor call in a prescription for a patient for such a low dose , I questioned it on the phone. She said 'it's totally placebo. The low dose is fine'. Interesting to hear that's not always the case.
I'm either borderline asexual or have an extremely low sex drive. I'm not sure which.
I really wish I had a higher sex drive. I enjoy sex, so I have no issues having sex when H wants it, but I never just want sex. Ever. I think it would be nice to want it, not just enjoy it when it happens.
amen forever!!! i really miss WANTING to have sex instead of waiting until half way through to decide if i'm enjoying it or not.