Cokie Roberts just said on NPR that for Trump

[cville]

The "facts don't matter" and that the republican opposition is afraid of his bully tactics because he'll "just make something up."

Omg. Someone in a regular report on mainstream media just called Trump a liar! For real! I didn't know they were capable anymore!

[cville]

Nov 30, 2015 8:32:58 GMT -5 toledo said:

Well, it might be ABC's Cokie Roberts, but it was said on NPR. You know what the Right will say in response.

Let me have my moment, toledo. Anything that calls out this racist, classless, anti-American windbag who should be shunned from speaking in public, much less running for office.

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Nov 30, 2015 8:35:42 GMT -5 kooshball said:

Trump is a pretty good troll. Maybe he is the ranch dressing person.

SHHHHHHHHHHH

[JamaicanPineapple]

There's a clip floating around with Chuck Todd doing the same thing on Meet the Press (I think). He basically said that when you're running for president facts and the words you say actually matter. Go figure!

[NothingWrongwithOhio]

I've convinced myself that Trump is just having a field day trying to see how far he can go before people stop taking him seriously. It would be awesome if after he loses the nomination, he releases something that says X% of Republican wanted to put a crazy man in the oval office.

I know I'm wrong, but I can hope, right?

[luckyval]

A part of me wants to think that Trump is a Democratic double agent.

[W.T.Faulkner]

LIBRUL BIAS

[FastHands]

Nov 30, 2015 9:19:43 GMT -5 NothingWrongwithOhio said:

I've convinced myself that Trump is just having a field day trying to see how far he can go before people stop taking him seriously. It would be awesome if after he loses the nomination, he releases something that says X% of Republican wanted to put a crazy man in the oval office.

I know I'm wrong, but I can hope, right?

Sadly, he will probably turn independent candidate if/when he loses the nomination.

[fuckyourcouch]

Nov 30, 2015 9:35:54 GMT -5 W.T.Faulkner said:

LIBRUL BIAS

My h keeps getting in fights on comment sections (I know) by dropping fact check links when people say stupid things. The #1 common response is, "oh, just another liberal who only cares about facts." (but with 400 assorted spelling/grammar errors)

...what? The fuck?

[W.T.Faulkner]

Nov 30, 2015 9:59:36 GMT -5 fuckyourcouch said:

Nov 30, 2015 9:35:54 GMT -5 W.T.Faulkner said:

LIBRUL BIAS

My h keeps getting in fights on comment sections (I know) by dropping fact check links when people say stupid things. The #1 common response is, "oh, just another liberal who only cares about facts." (but with 400 assorted spelling/grammar errors)

...what? The fuck?

Your H should get his shit together. Why does he only care about facts?

[underwaterrhymes]

Nov 30, 2015 8:48:01 GMT -5 kooshball said:

Nov 30, 2015 8:40:25 GMT -5 cville said:

Let me have my moment, toledo. Anything that calls out this racist, classless, anti-American windbag who should be shunned from speaking in public, much less running for office.

it could be worse. Like Ben Carson seems a lot worse so I'm inclined to let people think trump is awesome until after the primaries.

You think Carson us worse? He's a liar and a homophobic misogynist, but he at least isn't inclined to resort to playground bullying tactics when people disagree with him.

He's in no way fit to run our country, but Trump, IMO, is far worse because he is inciting the ignorant masses to engage in violence and is absolutely incapable of carrying on an intelligent conversation about anything. Instead he resorts to lying, name calling, and flagrantly pitting the wingnuts who support him against anyone who isn't a white male.

He scares the shit out of me.

[Serenity9]

Nov 30, 2015 8:35:42 GMT -5 kooshball said:

Trump is a pretty good troll. Maybe he is the ranch dressing person.

[FastHands]

@this TR oh yeah, it will be fabulous in terms of splitting the votes. I meant more like, sadly there will be no "SMILE! You're on candid camera!" moment.

(stolen from twitter:)
Our brains are hardwired to see humanity where there is none. Check out these adorable examples.

[circa1978]

Nov 30, 2015 9:28:09 GMT -5 luckyval said:

A part of me wants to think that Trump is a Democratic double agent.

I have long held this theory. It is the only thing that makes any sense. 

[Mrs.Rad888]

Nov 30, 2015 9:59:36 GMT -5 fuckyourcouch said:

Nov 30, 2015 9:35:54 GMT -5 W.T.Faulkner said:

LIBRUL BIAS

My h keeps getting in fights on comment sections (I know) by dropping fact check links when people say stupid things. The #1 common response is, "oh, just another liberal who only cares about facts." (but with 400 assorted spelling/grammar errors)

...what? The fuck?

I see that same thing from anti-sciencers on some of the science-y Facebook pages I follow. "Stupid science! Always using facts to prove people wrong!"

I'm sure the people on my Facebook page are tired of me sharing anti-Donald Trump stuff. I have quite a few Repubs on my friends list, but none of them have posted anything pro-Trump.

[amberlyrose]

Nov 30, 2015 10:17:20 GMT -5 circa1978 said:

Nov 30, 2015 9:28:09 GMT -5 luckyval said:

A part of me wants to think that Trump is a Democratic double agent.

I have long held this theory. It is the only thing that makes any sense. 

This is also my theory. Wasn't he a friend of the Clintons for awhile?

[Jalapeñomel]

Liberal media.

[underwaterrhymes]

I hate when people speculate that Trump is a plant or faking his douchebaggery.

He appeals to the lowest common denominator of society.

He is a bigot.

He likes the attention he's getting, and the more the assholes of the world egg him on, the worse he gets.

He is not going to suddenly say, "surprise! I'm really a Democrat!"

He gets off on making people less than so he can be more than.

He is ignorant and a bully and if he has changed his mind on some issues it's only because he goes where the hand is patting his back the hardest.

In short, he is an egomaniac who would happily steamroll his way to the presidency.

And he will if people don't take this seriously.

[MixedBerryJam]

Nov 30, 2015 8:40:25 GMT -5 cville said:

Nov 30, 2015 8:32:58 GMT -5 toledo said:

Well, it might be ABC's Cokie Roberts, but it was said on NPR. You know what the Right will say in response.

Let me have my moment, toledo . Anything that calls out this racist, classless, anti-American windbag who should be shunned from speaking in public, much less running for office.

Screw the garland debacle. On this issue you have me, body and soul.

[underwaterrhymes]

Nov 30, 2015 17:21:27 GMT -5 @littlemoxie said:

Nov 30, 2015 17:08:13 GMT -5 underwaterrhymes said:

I hate when people speculate that Trump is a plant or faking his douchebaggery.

He appeals to the lowest common denominator of society.

He is a bigot.

He likes the attention he's getting, and the more the assholes of the world egg him on, the worse he gets.

He is not going to suddenly say, "surprise! I'm really a Democrat!"

He gets off on making people less than so he can be more than.

He is ignorant and a bully and if he has changed his mind on some issues it's only because he goes where the hand is patting his back the hardest.

In short, he is an egomaniac who would happily steamroll his way to the presidency.

And he will if people don't take this seriously.

Eh.

Carson has said some pretty awful and offensive things AND would be really shitty for the economy.  Not that I think Trump would be good for it, but if I had to pick one of the two, I'd at least want the businessman used to numbers and thinking about Wall Street, the Fed, how our economy interacts with other economies in the world, etc.

I don't think he's a plant or pretending, don't get me wrong.  But I would be more concerned about a Carson presidency because I don't see anything going right.  Facts don't seem to matter much to him, either.  Trump may stumble upon one or two things.

As for those thinking he'll go independent - I don't think he is that crazy.  He'd rather have his money than waste it on a losing campaign (which, if he doesn't get the GOP nod, it's clear that is what his campaign would be).

Trump would not only run the economy into the ground, but he would piss off every single world leader with brown skin, and would do his best to take away human rights.

A Trump win would be devastating in every way possible.

[shostakovich]

Nov 30, 2015 18:07:30 GMT -5 toledo said:

Nov 30, 2015 17:21:27 GMT -5 @littlemoxie said:

Eh.

Carson has said some pretty awful and offensive things AND would be really shitty for the economy. Not that I think Trump would be good for it, but if I had to pick one of the two, I'd at least want the businessman used to numbers and thinking about Wall Street, the Fed, how our economy interacts with other economies in the world, etc.

OMG, no. No no no no.

Running a business (poorly, I might add) has nothing to do with guiding an economy.

QFT. Like, I almost want to get a tattoo of this on my palm, so when people start saying, "but s/he knows economy stuff and money and blah blah blah because s/he's a BUSINESS owner," about any given candidate, I can just hold up my hand and peace out of the convo.

[game blouses]

I think the rhetoric spewed by Trump and Carson is more dangerous than their chances of winning the presidency. I'm looking forward to Hillary tearing either one of those guys apart in the debates.

[miniroller]

Nov 30, 2015 18:07:30 GMT -5 toledo said:

Nov 30, 2015 17:21:27 GMT -5 @littlemoxie said:

Eh.

Carson has said some pretty awful and offensive things AND would be really shitty for the economy.  Not that I think Trump would be good for it, but if I had to pick one of the two, I'd at least want the businessman used to numbers and thinking about Wall Street, the Fed, how our economy interacts with other economies in the world, etc.

OMG, no. No no no no.

Running a business (poorly, I might add) has nothing to do with guiding an economy.

But this is exactly what the American public is thinking, & unfortunately, they don't listen to reasonable, factual arguments. Just grind their heels in the ground re: how right they are
If anything, Trump's run has made me understand the people who surround me (generally), & it's sadly a more pathetic ill-informed, ignorant populace than I previously thought.

FYI: I understand you were saying between the two (Trump & Carson) @littlemoxie