You probably have herpes (and that's okay)

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Does anyone else watch Adam Ruin's Everything?  His sex episode was really fantastic last week, as was the nutrition ep this week. But I wanted to post the video of his segment on herpes, because it was fascinating and completely the opposite of everything I'd ever learned in school. 




Also, if you can't watch the video because you're at work, here's a link to all the sources they used to write the episode, so you could read those instead!

www.trutv.com/shows/adam-ruins-everything/blog/adams-sources/adam-ruins-sex.html

[sushi]

Ive watched it ever since you told me to. It's very much my style

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Dec 17, 2015 10:12:11 GMT -5 sushi said:

Ive watched it ever since you told me to. It's very much my style

I'm so annoyed that there's not a clip on the scammy online medical journals. They legit got the script to the nutrition episode published in a journal for $350!  The researcher on the show published a fake article on the weight loss properties of chocolate to prove how you can publish bullshit & the media will go crazy for it. It was insane. 

[pamela]

And not exactly true. I have herpes and the first outbreak actually had me out of work I was hurting so much and it made me achy and ill. I know not everyone's is that bad (especially men) but pretending it's like a pimple or mosquito bite is ridiculous.

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Dec 17, 2015 10:30:15 GMT -5 pamela said:

And not exactly true. I have herpes and the first outbreak actually had me out of work I was hurting so much and it made me achy and ill. I know not everyone's is that bad (especially men) but pretending it's like a pimple or mosquito bite is ridiculous.

He's not trying to say it's nbd for everyone. But if 90% of the world's population already carries a strain of the virus (according to one of his sources) and 4 out of 5 carriers don't even know they have it & have no symptoms (according to the WHO), using it as a threat to shame people into not having sex and to treat people who know they have herpes as modern day lepers is pointless.  The actual show segment is longer & goes into more detail. 

[AJL]

I love Adam Ruins Everything! I think this one, Emily Ruins Everything came right after the herpes video. It's all abut the hymen and it's really good.

[ESF]

Dec 17, 2015 10:46:40 GMT -5 @ameliapond said:

Dec 17, 2015 10:30:15 GMT -5 pamela said:

And not exactly true. I have herpes and the first outbreak actually had me out of work I was hurting so much and it made me achy and ill. I know not everyone's is that bad (especially men) but pretending it's like a pimple or mosquito bite is ridiculous.

He's not trying to say it's nbd for everyone. But if 90% of the world's population already carries a strain of the virus (according to one of his sources) and 4 out of 5 carriers don't even know they have it & have no symptoms (according to the WHO), using it as a threat to shame people into not having sex and to treat people who know they have herpes as modern day lepers is pointless.  The actual show segment is longer & goes into more detail. 

This is what I've heard. I can't watch right now, but I once went for a full STD screen, and asked the doctor why she had not ordered a herpes test. She was like, "because nearly everybody has it, so it's almost certainly going to come back positive."

[MrsAxilla]

A noticed a little wart on my finger a few months ago and looked up what to do. Warts are caused by herpes! I was totally freaked out until I read a little more and learned most people have it. Oddly, the wart comes and goes. So weird!!

[AJL]

Dec 17, 2015 11:08:54 GMT -5 MrsAxilla said:

A noticed a little wart on my finger a few months ago and looked up what to do. Warts are caused by herpes! I was totally freaked out until I read a little more and learned most people have it. Oddly, the wart comes and goes. So weird!!

Are you sure it's herpes and not HPV? HPV causes warts. 

[mrsdewinter]

Dec 17, 2015 11:21:45 GMT -5 AJL said:

Dec 17, 2015 11:08:54 GMT -5 MrsAxilla said:

A noticed a little wart on my finger a few months ago and looked up what to do. Warts are caused by herpes! I was totally freaked out until I read a little more and learned most people have it. Oddly, the wart comes and goes. So weird!!

Are you sure it's herpes and not HPV? HPV causes warts. 

Yeah I think warts are caused by strains of HPV.

But if you've ever had chicken pox or roseola or mono, you have a type of herpes.

[mdgirl]

Dang. I was walking through work yesterday and a department that deals with infectious disease had a little sign up that said "Have a happy and herpes-free holiday!" I guess that's out the window.

[Queen Mamadala]

I love his videos.

I've been arguing what he points out for a while now. I'm pretty sure I have HSV-1. My dd2 came down with gingivostomatitis at 18 months, and has had a few outbreaks, cold sores, since then (she's 9).

Every ob/gyn I've had in the last five years didn't routinely test for HSV. It wasn't part of their STD panel. The patient has to request to be tested for it.

[AJL]

Herpes zoster causes chicken pox and shingles
Mononucleousis ("Mono") is caused by human herpes virus 4 (HHV4)
Herpes simplex virus 1 and 2 cause oral and genital herpes respectively. However, the video is really only talking about these two types of HSV.

[MrsAxilla]

Dec 17, 2015 11:21:45 GMT -5 AJL said:

Dec 17, 2015 11:08:54 GMT -5 MrsAxilla said:

A noticed a little wart on my finger a few months ago and looked up what to do. Warts are caused by herpes! I was totally freaked out until I read a little more and learned most people have it. Oddly, the wart comes and goes. So weird!!

Are you sure it's herpes and not HPV? HPV causes warts. 

Wait.  They're not the same?  

[MrsAxilla]

Okay, they're not the same. But I've been tested for hpv, so maybe it's not a wart? Now I'm confused.

[ESF]

Dec 17, 2015 11:55:01 GMT -5 MrsAxilla said:

Okay, they're not the same. But I've been tested for hpv, so maybe it's not a wart? Now I'm confused.

There are like a hundred strains of HPV.  I don't think there is a way to test for all of them. 

[mrsdewinter]

Dec 17, 2015 11:38:14 GMT -5 @majorwife said:

Dec 17, 2015 11:36:39 GMT -5 mrsdewinter said:

Yeah I think warts are caused by strains of HPV.

But if you've ever had chicken pox or roseola or mono, you have a type of herpes.

really?!

Yep. When I took microbiology and we got to herpesviruses, my professor told the class, "guess what, you all have herpes!" Lol. I know the video was really just talking about HSV 1 and 2 though.

courses.washington.edu/medch401/pdf_text/401_07_Herpes.pdf

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Dec 17, 2015 11:55:01 GMT -5 MrsAxilla said:

Okay, they're not the same. But I've been tested for hpv, so maybe it's not a wart? Now I'm confused.

There are a lot of strains of hpv. If you were tested for hpv during a vaginal exam you were most likely only tested for 2 or 4 types, the types which are most likely to cause cervical cancer or considered the high risk types. Most people don't routinely get tested for the multiple strains of HPV. 

[Deleted]

And yeah the standard of practice isn't to test for HSV via a blood test because a lot of people will come back positive. Genital herpes is a clinical diagnosis that should be diagnosed during an outbreak. 

[MrsAxilla]

Dec 17, 2015 11:59:19 GMT -5 ESF said:

Dec 17, 2015 11:55:01 GMT -5 MrsAxilla said:

Okay, they're not the same. But I've been tested for hpv, so maybe it's not a wart? Now I'm confused.

There are like a hundred strains of HPV.  I don't think there is a way to test for all of them. 

I remain confused - lol. I remember getting a wart or two as a kid so I guess it doesn't matter.

[MrsAxilla]

Dec 17, 2015 12:06:03 GMT -5 @wandering said:

Dec 17, 2015 11:55:01 GMT -5 MrsAxilla said:

Okay, they're not the same. But I've been tested for hpv, so maybe it's not a wart? Now I'm confused.

There are a lot of strains of hpv. If you were tested for hpv during a vaginal exam you were most likely only tested for 2 or 4 types, the types which are most likely to cause cervical cancer or considered the high risk types. Most people don't routinely get tested for the multiple strains of HPV. 

NOW I feel better!  Lol.   (lips)

[ESF]

Dec 17, 2015 12:08:25 GMT -5 MrsAxilla said:

Dec 17, 2015 11:59:19 GMT -5 ESF said:

There are like a hundred strains of HPV.  I don't think there is a way to test for all of them. 

I remain confused - lol. I remember getting a wart or two as a kid so I guess it doesn't matter.

I think only a few of the HPV strains are sexually transmitted.  Other kinds are just out there and transmitted through any number of ways.   @wandering is this correct?