Duchess Catherine pregnancy rumors

[renna]

Why, I have scottyderp writing her a nasty letter RIGHT NOW!



pandce.proboards.com/thread/505379/#ixzz3wcnZho7n

[wise_rita]

It's far too close to Char, but it wouldn't surprise me if she had another.

Damn it I need my Harry in the next generation!

[Deleted]

If I spent 4 months in a bed hooked up to IVs every time I got PG there's no way in hell I'd choose *this* as my sphere of princess overachievement. I was thinking I'd overachieve at Tiaras, but if I had to have another area it would be something more social justicey. Less Andrew and Edwardy.

I wonder if Charlotte will be the Duchess of York, or if that will still go to a younger brother, now that they're all gender equality? I personally think it may be nicer to be the Princess Royal, but Duchess in ones own right means ones husband can be a Duke and the children can be earls.

[auntie]

Jan 8, 2016 2:24:01 GMT -5 elle said:

I wonder if Charlotte will be the Duchess of York, or if that will still go to a younger brother, now that they're all gender equality? I personally think it may be nicer to be the Princess Royal, but Duchess in ones own right means ones husband can be a Duke and the children can be earls.

Not so long as The Queen, Charles and Andrew are alive. For now, that is a title for which any wife of Andrew's is entitled. If the title were to be passed down, non-royal dukedoms are not passed to females at this point, it would be to Beatrice.

When William ascends, he could name Charlotte Princess Royal song long as Anne had passed. There is only one Princess Royal at any given time. The Queen was never elevated, because she ascended the throne before her Aunt mary died. 

I wonder if titles would pass using the male form. The Queen is properly Duke of Lancaster; Prince Philip does not share any of her titles to my knowledge.

[hopecounts]

Jan 8, 2016 2:24:01 GMT -5 elle said:

If I spent 4 months in a bed hooked up to IVs every time I got PG there's no way in hell I'd choose *this* as my sphere of princess overachievement. I was thinking I'd overachieve at Tiaras, but if I had to have another area it would be something more social justicey. Less Andrew and Edwardy.

I wonder if Charlotte will be the Duchess of York, or if that will still go to a younger brother, now that they're all gender equality? I personally think it may be nicer to be the Princess Royal, but Duchess in ones own right means ones husband can be a Duke and the children can be earls.

What auntie said.
For now royal dukedoms are reserved for the men, and even if they were to remove that the title would rightfully be Beatrice's.
If they were to 'Duke' her it would have to be one of the unused ones at that time.
More likely when she marries if she married a man he will be titled which she can then use (though most stick with HRH Princess Whoever rather then using their husband's title)

[mich1]

Don't they have a big tour planned this year to India? I doubt that Kate would be pregnant for that. It seems like she plans her pregnancies between tours.

[hopecounts]

Jan 8, 2016 11:52:16 GMT -5 mich1 said:

Don't they have a big tour planned this year to India? I doubt that Kate would be pregnant for that. It seems like she plans her pregnancies between tours.

Yep Bhutan and then India

[auntie]

Jan 8, 2016 11:36:15 GMT -5 hopecounts said:

Jan 8, 2016 2:24:01 GMT -5 elle said:

What auntie said.
For now royal dukedoms are reserved for the men, and even if they were to remove that the title would rightfully be Beatrice's.
If they were to 'Duke' her it would have to be one of the unused ones at that time.
More likely when she marries if she married a man he will be titled which she can then use (though most stick with HRH Princess Whoever rather then using their husband's title)

Sometimes they combine.  Princess Anne was regularly titled as HRH The Princess Anne, Mrs. Mark Phillips after her marriage. Some think she only agreed to Princess Royal in order to jettison Mrs. Phillips. "The" signifies that she was born into the title princess rather than married into it. Hence, Diana was properly The Lady Diana Spencer but not The Princess Diana, although she could have been properly titled Princess Charles. It's one of the reasons the princes are given titles on their marriage if they don't already have one. Prince Michael did not; hence Princess Michael.  

[cville]

Jan 8, 2016 11:48:06 GMT -5 toledo said:

When will I learn not to make posts that invite the show-offy royal hierarchy stuff.

ETA: I'm sorry; I overdosed on Downton last night and I'm channelling Lady Mary, apparently.

WE HAD A REVOLUTION, PEOPLE.

[hopecounts]

Jan 8, 2016 16:19:16 GMT -5 @booby said:

Jan 8, 2016 11:52:16 GMT -5 mich1 said:

Don't they have a big tour planned this year to India? I doubt that Kate would be pregnant for that. It seems like she plans her pregnancies between tours.

well, she seems uninterested in doing the full (traditional) amount of princessey duties, perhaps a pregnancy is the easiest way to back out of some commitments. just a thought.

Well it does give her an excuse to lighten her public appearances

I think they are trying to help the 'not doing enough' rep while being as private as they can while they can.
Having a baby is generally seen as a reasonable excuse for doing fewer events so it eases up the criticism for a bit.
They will be Prince and Princess of Wales and have to be full time royals and all that entails soon enough so I think they see this time as a type of 'gap year' where they can largely focus on the kids and have as normal a life as possible

[mich1]

Jan 8, 2016 17:40:44 GMT -5 @dixiedarling said:

I think they will wait a bit longer on the next baby. Pregnancy is so hard on her and she has already fulfilled the heir and the spare requirement.

I do think they will have more kids, though.

If you take a look at their record, they went to the South Pacific and George was born 11 months later.  Charlotte was born a little over a year after they finished up their Australia tour.  She's 33 right now, so she's not going to wait much longer.

[redheadk]

Jan 8, 2016 17:54:11 GMT -5 mich1 said:

Jan 8, 2016 17:40:44 GMT -5 @dixiedarling said:

I think they will wait a bit longer on the next baby. Pregnancy is so hard on her and she has already fulfilled the heir and the spare requirement.

I do think they will have more kids, though.

If you take a look at their record, they went to the South Pacific and George was born 11 months later.  Charlotte was born a little over a year after they finished up their Australia tour.  She's 33 right now, so she's not going to wait much longer.

Good point. They just announced that they are adding a stop in Bhutan to their China trip that is coming up so I really doubt she's pregnant.

[DotAndBuzz]

Jan 8, 2016 11:48:06 GMT -5 toledo said:

When will I learn not to make posts that invite the show-offy royal hierarchy stuff.

ETA: I'm sorry; I overdosed on Downton last night and I'm channelling Lady Mary, apparently.

You need to go watch Million Dollar American Princesses.  It's on the Smithsonian Channel.  Like, Downton, but real life, and crazy family backstories.

www.smithsonianchannel.com/shows/million-dollar-american-princesses/1003587

I'm kind of addicted, and force H to watch it (or at least sit silently and read something else) while I watch it in bed at night.

[Deleted]

Jan 8, 2016 7:55:44 GMT -5 auntie said:

Jan 8, 2016 2:24:01 GMT -5 elle said:

I wonder if Charlotte will be the Duchess of York, or if that will still go to a younger brother, now that they're all gender equality? I personally think it may be nicer to be the Princess Royal, but Duchess in ones own right means ones husband can be a Duke and the children can be earls.

Not so long as The Queen, Charles and Andrew are alive. For now, that is a title for which any wife of Andrew's is entitled. If the title were to be passed down, non-royal dukedoms are not passed to females at this point, it would be to Beatrice.

Im not sure that's true. Fergie got the title in the divorce IIRC - lost the HRH but kept the title- so I don't see how Andrew's next wife would be entitled to it. I know it normally would go to the duke's current wife, but I believe it was divvied up as a divorce asset, so it may be that the new wife would have to use a subsidiary title like the Duchess of Cornwall chose to. Though we all know that if Andrew marries again it will be to his ex, so it's probably a moot point.


Also, re Beatrice, the change in the laws of succession were not made retroactive. So it's not like Anne is entitled to take the Duchess of York title from her brother (or succeed the crown if Wales line all died), nor would Beatrice be entitled to inherit it, because she was born after the laws changed and they certainly aren't going to stretch customs for someone who won't be second (or even third) in line. If one assumes that Harry will get another Dukedom before Andrew dies, then I do think it's interesting to consider whether they'd give it to Charlotte, because she would be the second in line, and traditionally, if the Duke of York title is available, it goes to the second in line. If it passes to her younger brother eventually, that would sort of suck for her since she'd be the spare, not him.

[janegold]

My head hurts.

[sandyapples]

Jesus Christ I'm glad I didn't marry prince William like I planned at 12.

[auntie]

Jan 8, 2016 20:34:16 GMT -5 elle said:

Jan 8, 2016 7:55:44 GMT -5 auntie said:

Im not sure that's true. Fergie got the title in the divorce IIRC - lost the HRH but kept the title- so I don't see how Andrew's next wife would be entitled to it. I know it normally would go to the duke's current wife, but I believe it was divvied up as a divorce asset, so it may be that the new wife would have to use a subsidiary title like the Duchess of Cornwall chose to. Though we all know that if Andrew marries again it will be to his ex, so it's probably a moot point.


Sarah kept Duchess of York in much the same way an ex might hold onto her former husband's surname. If Andrew remarried, the person would assume his style and title and be HRH The Duchess of York. Sarah would remain "a" Duchess of York unless she remarried. There could be multiple such duchesses running about. This is the argument used to deny Wallis the HRH which was probably not quite legal.

[mcsangel2]

Jan 8, 2016 20:34:16 GMT -5 elle said:

Jan 8, 2016 7:55:44 GMT -5 auntie said:

Not so long as The Queen, Charles and Andrew are alive. For now, that is a title for which any wife of Andrew's is entitled. If the title were to be passed down, non-royal dukedoms are not passed to females at this point, it would be to Beatrice.

Im not sure that's true. Fergie got the title in the divorce IIRC - lost the HRH but kept the title- so I don't see how Andrew's next wife would be entitled to it. I know it normally would go to the duke's current wife, but I believe it was divvied up as a divorce asset, so it may be that the new wife would have to use a subsidiary title like the Duchess of Cornwall chose to. Though we all know that if Andrew marries again it will be to his ex, so it's probably a moot point. 

Heh.