What is "abortion on demand"?

[ttt]

Seriously, what does "abortion on demand" mean? Is this as opposed to waiting for your abortion at its regularly scheduled programming slot?

[UMaineTeach]

seems like it must mean that there is no waiting period or extra tests, or counseling - you can just make an appointment, walk in, and say 'Hi, I'm here for the abortion"

[wrathofkuus]

It means you don't have to get the GOP's approval before having your abortion.

[sonrisa]

As opposed to "over objection" one child China style.

[llama]

I think the anti abortion crowd often uses the term to characterize the position that the right to terminate a pregnancy/have access to an abortion should be absolute - legally available whenever and for whatever reason the pregnant woman decides.

[marie427]

It means having total freedom to get whatever you want from the drive-thru abortion clinic.

[heyjude]

Aug 28, 2012 17:16:25 GMT -5 wrathofkuus said:

It means you don't have to get the GOP's approval before having your abortion.

This.

[meshaliuknits]

Aug 28, 2012 18:06:41 GMT -5 NewOrleans said:

It's when you use Comcast to perform illegal abortions.

LOL

[emisi]

Aug 28, 2012 18:06:41 GMT -5 NewOrleans said:

It's when you use Comcast to perform illegal abortions.

And they give you an appointment for sometime between 8 and 3, but don't actually abort the pregnancy until 6.

[heyjude]

Aug 28, 2012 18:06:41 GMT -5 NewOrleans said:

It's when you use Comcast to perform illegal abortions.

Hahahaha.

It's a button on my remote!

"Bachelor Pad? Or Abortion? Abortion it is!"

[Xyz]

Aug 28, 2012 17:17:51 GMT -5 marie427 said:

It means having total freedom to get whatever you want from the drive-thru abortion clinic.

Is a drive thru abortion place it like one of the drive in oil change places where the people do all the work underneath from a little pit without you ever having to get out?

[heyjude]

It's also the place where you can get gay married on demand in addition to your food stamps for your organic food.

[MrsDL]

I'm pro-choice, but don't find the topic all that funny. It means, as pp said, one can have an abortion at any point in their pregnancy, for any reason - you find out you're having a girl and you wanted a boy at 22 weeks - abortion is legal - that sort of thing.

[wawa]

Aug 28, 2012 19:18:16 GMT -5 MrsDL said:

I'm pro-choice, but don't find the topic all that funny. It means, as pp said, one can have an abortion at any point in their pregnancy, for any reason - you find out you're having a girl and you wanted a boy at 22 weeks - abortion is legal - that sort of thing.

I'm confused what you mean by this.
You don't find black humor about the restriction of abortion rights funny because some people are awful souless asswipes?

I mean...I get that topics are connected, but not in an either/or fashion.

[KB]

Aug 28, 2012 17:16:25 GMT -5 wrathofkuus said:

It means you don't have to get the GOP's approval before having your abortion.

:Y:

[heightsyankee]

I think this is one of the funniest threads since we moved to PBs. If I couldn't laugh, I would cry.

[MrsDL]

Aug 28, 2012 19:24:54 GMT -5 wawa said:

Aug 28, 2012 19:18:16 GMT -5 MrsDL said:

I'm pro-choice, but don't find the topic all that funny. It means, as pp said, one can have an abortion at any point in their pregnancy, for any reason - you find out you're having a girl and you wanted a boy at 22 weeks - abortion is legal - that sort of thing.

I'm confused what you mean by this.
You don't find black humor about the restriction of abortion rights funny because some people are awful souless asswipes?

I mean...I get that topics are connected, but not in an either/or fashion.

No - I just don't find any humor in this topic at all - and I once did. Having a child changed that for me and I struggle with my position now. At my core, I'm pretty much a Libertarian. So pro-choice makes sense to me. However I'd be lying if I said I didn't relate to the pro-life position now. I'd be lying if I said abortion didn't bother me. So, while I haven't changed my position, I also don't take the topic as lightly as I once did. Maybe you can say I am still evolving in this area.............

[wawa]

Aug 28, 2012 19:41:44 GMT -5 MrsDL said:

Aug 28, 2012 19:24:54 GMT -5 wawa said:

I'm confused what you mean by this.
You don't find black humor about the restriction of abortion rights funny because some people are awful souless asswipes?

I mean...I get that topics are connected, but not in an either/or fashion.

No - I just don't find any humor in this topic at all - and I once did. Having a child changed that for me and I struggle with my position now. At my core, I'm pretty much a Libertarian. So pro-choice makes sense to me. However I'd be lying if I said I didn't relate to the pro-life position now. I'd be lying if I said abortion didn't bother me. So, while I haven't changed my position, I also don't take the topic as lightly as I once did. Maybe you can say I am still evolving in this area.............

I can understand that.

[dev22]

This is an image I got when I googled Abortion on Demand. Hope that clears things up.

[emilyj]

Aug 28, 2012 17:17:51 GMT -5 marie427 said:

It means having total freedom to get whatever you want from the drive-thru abortion clinic.

Do you get fries there too?

[ringstrue]

Aug 28, 2012 19:18:16 GMT -5 MrsDL said:

I'm pro-choice, but don't find the topic all that funny. It means, as pp said, one can have an abortion at any point in their pregnancy, for any reason - you find out you're having a girl and you wanted a boy at 22 weeks - abortion is legal - that sort of thing.

Is this actually happening, though? I mean are doctors actually performing these sort of procedures under these sort of circumstances? Or is there really this underground of illegal abortions going on once women find out the gender?

[heyjude]

Abortion on demand means that someone could kill their baby at any time for any reason and the government will throw you a ticker tape parade.

[basilosaurus]

Aug 28, 2012 19:18:16 GMT -5 MrsDL said:

I'm pro-choice, but don't find the topic all that funny. It means, as pp said, one can have an abortion at any point in their pregnancy, for any reason - you find out you're having a girl and you wanted a boy at 22 weeks - abortion is legal - that sort of thing.

So you're against strawman abortions?

[MrsDL]

Aug 28, 2012 20:01:06 GMT -5 ringstrue said:

Aug 28, 2012 19:18:16 GMT -5 MrsDL said:

I'm pro-choice, but don't find the topic all that funny. It means, as pp said, one can have an abortion at any point in their pregnancy, for any reason - you find out you're having a girl and you wanted a boy at 22 weeks - abortion is legal - that sort of thing.

Is this actually happening, though? I mean are doctors actually performing these sort of procedures under these sort of circumstances? Or is there really this underground of illegal abortions going on once women find out the gender?

That is not the norm, but yes, that does happen. You have the undercover PP video stuff that does show ONE employee advising a woman on what to do if she had a girl she didn't want. Polls have shown that immigrants, in particular, will abort based on gender bias. Doctors that can and do perform "late-term" abortions are not obligated to ask why, or make a decision based on the reason. Maybe it's good, maybe not. I try not to think about. So - that term - does have some legitimacy. Some people who are pro-choice, don't agree with it. I can certainly see that. Like any other hot-botton issue - tis a slippery slope.

[Deleted]

LOL at the Comcast joke.

On a different note, I am side eyeing anyone who thinks that someone would terminate a pregnancy after 20 weeks unless there was a major medical issue

[llama]

Aug 28, 2012 20:22:30 GMT -5 MrsDL said:

Aug 28, 2012 20:01:06 GMT -5 ringstrue said:

Is this actually happening, though? I mean are doctors actually performing these sort of procedures under these sort of circumstances? Or is there really this underground of illegal abortions going on once women find out the gender?

That is not the norm, but yes, that does happen. You have the undercover PP video stuff that does show ONE employee advising a woman on what to do if she had a girl she didn't want. Polls have shown that immigrants, in particular, will abort based on gender bias. Doctors that can and do perform "late-term" abortions are not obligated to ask why, or make a decision based on the reason. Maybe it's good, maybe not. I try not to think about. So - that term - does have some legitimacy. Some people who are pro-choice, don't agree with it. I can certainly see that. Like any other hot-botton issue - tis a slippery slope.

This is not true. Guttmacher has correct information about the situations in which late-term abortions are permitted and a breakdown of laws state-by-state.
www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCwQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guttmacher.org%2Fstatecenter%2Fspibs%2Fspib_PLTA.pdf&ei=g3A9UJKDJueu6AHwkoGwCg&usg=AFQjCNGKcoQAFd5BwwVbS2NW_ulVrveQdQ

[heightsyankee]

Aug 28, 2012 20:01:06 GMT -5 ringstrue said:

Aug 28, 2012 19:18:16 GMT -5 MrsDL said:

I'm pro-choice, but don't find the topic all that funny. It means, as pp said, one can have an abortion at any point in their pregnancy, for any reason - you find out you're having a girl and you wanted a boy at 22 weeks - abortion is legal - that sort of thing.

Is this actually happening, though? I mean are doctors actually performing these sort of procedures under these sort of circumstances? Or is there really this underground of illegal abortions going on once women find out the gender?

and if someone is willing to abort based on gender, should they really be allowed to raise a child anyway?

[MrsDL]

Aug 28, 2012 20:26:54 GMT -5 NewOrleans said:

Aug 28, 2012 20:01:06 GMT -5 ringstrue said:

Is this actually happening, though? I mean are doctors actually performing these sort of procedures under these sort of circumstances? Or is there really this underground of illegal abortions going on once women find out the gender?

according to Guttmacher, 1.5% of abortions are after 21 weeks. The stat is a few years old, but now that Dr. Tiller is dead, I
would imagine the number has certainly not increased.

1.5% is still a few babies - no? for somebody who is sensitive to the topic it's too many. Playing devil's advocate here - if childhood hunger is your issue, would even 1 child going hungry be OK? That's why I get the other side on this issue at this point in my life.

[wawa]

Aug 28, 2012 20:29:59 GMT -5 @mjmksb04 said:

LOL at the Comcast joke.

On a different note, I am side eyeing anyone who thinks that someone would terminate a pregnancy after 20 weeks unless there was a major medical issue

eh. I'm sure there is somebody somewhere who would. Perhaps even many somebodies.

I just don't find it relevant.

[dev22]

Aug 28, 2012 20:34:03 GMT -5 MrsDL said:

Aug 28, 2012 20:26:54 GMT -5 NewOrleans said:

according to Guttmacher, 1.5% of abortions are after 21 weeks. The stat is a few years old, but now that Dr. Tiller is dead, I
would imagine the number has certainly not increased.

1.5% is still a few babies - no? for somebody who is sensitive to the topic it's too many. Playing devil's advocate here - if childhood hunger is your issue, would even 1 child going hungry be OK? That's why I get the other side on this issue at this point in my life.

You get that most of those are abortions for medical reasons, right?