SC Decision

[isabel]

Does anyone know when there will be a decision regarding the Texas abortion case? I've been googling, but I'm so angry about the commentary on this that I can't see straight. 

[zarapipe]

I believe it is June

[gpw]

Wait. Has it been argued yet? I didn't think there had been arguments yet.

StrawberryBlondie ESF

[isabel]

Mar 2, 2016 20:26:02 GMT -5 gpw said:

Wait. Has it been argued yet? I didn't think there had been arguments yet.

StrawberryBlondie ESF

Arguments were heard today.

www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/03/supreme-court-about-hear-most-important-abortion-case-decades

[StrawberryBlondie]

Mar 2, 2016 20:26:02 GMT -5 gpw said:

Wait. Has it been argued yet? I didn't think there had been arguments yet.

StrawberryBlondie ESF

Today. Scotusblog has a really good argument recap.

[StrawberryBlondie]

It's a big case and argued late, so chances are good for june.

[isabel]

Mar 2, 2016 20:30:17 GMT -5 StrawberryBlondie said:

Mar 2, 2016 20:26:02 GMT -5 gpw said:

Wait. Has it been argued yet? I didn't think there had been arguments yet.

StrawberryBlondie ESF

Today. Scotusblog has a really good argument recap.

Off to read, though I know it won't be good for my blood pressure.

[downtoearth]

Mar 2, 2016 20:26:02 GMT -5 gpw said:

Wait. Has it been argued yet? I didn't think there had been arguments yet.

StrawberryBlondie ESF

Nina had a good recap - www.npr.org/2016/03/02/468656213/supreme-court-tests-texas-new-restrictions-on-abortion

[StrawberryBlondie]

Mar 2, 2016 20:31:54 GMT -5 isabel said:

Mar 2, 2016 20:30:17 GMT -5 StrawberryBlondie said:

Today. Scotusblog has a really good argument recap.

Off to read, though I know it won't be good for my blood pressure.

Nah. There's not much that objectionable. Apparently there was some questioning about whether ghee is evidence in the record that x number of facilities closed because of the law. I think it's going to be 5-3.

[gpw]

Notorious RBG.  She's so fucking badass.  I hope she writes the opinion.  

[ESF]

Mar 2, 2016 20:34:54 GMT -5 StrawberryBlondie said:

Mar 2, 2016 20:31:54 GMT -5 isabel said:

Off to read, though I know it won't be good for my blood pressure.

Nah. There's not much that objectionable. Apparently there was some questioning about whether ghee is evidence in the record that x number of facilities closed because of the law. I think it's going to be 5-3.

Striking it down?

I'm optimistic that Kennedy gets this one right but I haven't read any argument recaps yet.

[StrawberryBlondie]

Mar 2, 2016 20:38:14 GMT -5 ESF said:

Mar 2, 2016 20:34:54 GMT -5 StrawberryBlondie said:

Nah. There's not much that objectionable. Apparently there was some questioning about whether ghee is evidence in the record that x number of facilities closed because of the law. I think it's going to be 5-3.

Striking it down?

I'm optimistic that Kennedy gets this one right but I haven't read any argument recaps yet.

Yeah. I think Kennedy will get it right this time.

[gpw]

I discovered Oyez podcasts where you can hear the whole argument. Hopefully they'll be updating it tomorrow or the next day with this argument.

[isabel]

Thanks for the recommendation, StrawberryBlondie. That was a good read. I have maybe a little more hope after reading it that Kennedy will do the right thing.

[darnkatz]

Mar 2, 2016 20:36:27 GMT -5 gpw said:

Notorious RBG.  She's so fucking badass.  I hope she writes the opinion.  

God, I love her.

[StrawberryBlondie]

Mar 2, 2016 20:41:52 GMT -5 isabel said:

Thanks for the recommendation, StrawberryBlondie. That was a good read. I have maybe a little more hope after reading it that Kennedy will do the right thing.

No problem.

I love Nina Totenberg (also recommended here) but I usually like scotusblog's argument recaps better than hers.

[StrawberryBlondie]

Mar 2, 2016 20:40:22 GMT -5 gpw said:

I discovered Oyez podcasts where you can hear the whole argument. Hopefully they'll be updating it tomorrow or the next day with this argument.

It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize Oyez isn't pronounced phonetically.

[gpw]

Mar 2, 2016 20:57:54 GMT -5 StrawberryBlondie said:

Mar 2, 2016 20:40:22 GMT -5 gpw said:

I discovered Oyez podcasts where you can hear the whole argument. Hopefully they'll be updating it tomorrow or the next day with this argument.

It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize Oyez isn't pronounced phonetically.

Oh, HAHAHAHA!!!!!   Really?!  Silly you.  



(....how is it pronounced?  Asking for a friend.)

[StrawberryBlondie]

Mar 2, 2016 20:59:07 GMT -5 gpw said:

Mar 2, 2016 20:57:54 GMT -5 StrawberryBlondie said:

It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize Oyez isn't pronounced phonetically.

Oh, HAHAHAHA!!!!!   Really?!  Silly you.  



(....how is it pronounced?  Asking for a friend.)

Like oy-yay.

[smock]

I am really proud of the female justices today. What a bunch of badasses.

[gpw]

Mar 2, 2016 21:02:20 GMT -5 StrawberryBlondie said:

Mar 2, 2016 20:59:07 GMT -5 gpw said:

Oh, HAHAHAHA!!!!!   Really?!  Silly you.  



(....how is it pronounced?  Asking for a friend.)

Like oy-yay.

Oh.  Yeah.  That's totally how I've been pronouncing it.  Totally. 

[LeggsBenedict]

Mar 2, 2016 20:36:27 GMT -5 gpw said:

Notorious RBG.  She's so fucking badass.  I hope she writes the opinion.  

my eyes just turned to hearts and flew out my skull.

[ESF]

This summary is great!

www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/supreme_court_dispatches/2016/03/in_oral_arguments_for_the_texas_abortion_case_the_three_female_justices.html

[idahome]

I feel like this is a good place to drop this gem: www.sheknows.com/living/slideshow/5123/ruth-bader-ginsburg-coloring-book/ruth-bader-ginsburg-coloring-book

Because we all need RBG coloring pages in our lives! <3

[One Girl In All The World]

Mar 2, 2016 20:36:27 GMT -5 gpw said:

Notorious RBG.  She's so fucking badass.  I hope she writes the opinion.  

GAME ON. Seriously can we clone her?

[CrazyLucky]

Mar 2, 2016 22:01:52 GMT -5 ESF said:

This summary is great!

www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/supreme_court_dispatches/2016/03/in_oral_arguments_for_the_texas_abortion_case_the_three_female_justices.html

This was a good read.  One of my favorite parts:

Then it’s Kagan who moves in. Calmly, poker-faced, she asks Keller: “You said that as the law is now … Texas is allowed to set much, much higher medical standards, whether it has to do with the personnel or procedures or the facilities themselves, higher medical standards … for abortion facilities than for facilities that do any other kind of medical work, even much more risky medical work? Am I right?”
Keller agrees. Then Kagan asks: “And I guess I just want to know, why would Texas do that?” The room erupts. Keller says complications. Kagan says that liposuction actually has greater complications. Keller says Kermit Gosnell. Kagan says nothing that happened in the Gosnell case could have occurred under Texas’ pre-existing regulations. Sotomayor says colonoscopies have more complications. Finally, Keller says, “But legislatures react to topics that are of public concern.” And that is what matters. Not women’s health. Politics.

Kagan forces him to admit it's not about health.  It's about restricting abortion.  She is awesome.  AWESOME!

[5thofjuly]

I love this line from the Slate article, not because it's pretty misogynist but because I was thinking, "Fuck, yes!" when I was imagining the female justices banding together to wear down some of their colleagues.

"One senses that the chief justice, two weeks into this new post-Scalia era, is worn out just trying to keep the women at bay."