Working Moms Who Are on Salary

[ny96]

Do you use your vacation/sick time for appointments or when you come in a little late or leave early? I normally work 40 straight hours, but occasionally will put in 45-50 and because I'm on salary I don't get compensated for it. I was noticing when I put in a sick day last week that I didn't have as many hours as I thought and going back through my time cards I realized that they were taking hours from the times I left early for a doctors appt. or had to pick up J a little early from daycare which are few and far between. I'm just a little annoyed because my job has no perks, but I'm aware that our Director and her executive team are way more free with their hours.

[pinotgrig]

I don't. I'll make an effort to make up my time if it's busy and I was out for several hours, but isn't the point of being salaried is that sometimes it works out better for the employer and sometimes better for the employee? I'm not abusing my side of the deal, so I figure it all works out.

I'm lucky in that my managers really don't care how/when I work (within reason and I need to be accessible for my CWs) as long as my work gets done.

[Deleted]

Nope, never. I very purposely make sure I work for companies that are flexible so I can do doc appts, etc and make up the time elsewhere.

[Redpoppy]

I can make up 2 hours a day within the week. I'm 35 hours a week and just make sure I have at least 35, usually it's between 35-40. If I was nickel and dimed when already working my full hours I wouldn't be happy.

[anna7602]

I am no longer at a salaried job, but when I was, I did not get docked for things like this. I had all of my pregnancy appointments and then once I had DD, had days I entered late or had to take a long lunch to go home and get my forgotten pumping supplies, etc., and it all evened out. I also happened to do a lot of work at home and was expected to be available via phone or email outside of typical business hours, so this might have something to do with it.

[simpsongal]

I'm a fed, we're expected to account for all our hours (under or over time). So if I got to the doc for an hour and a half, I use sick leave. If I leave early, vacation leave. If I work overtime, I earn comp or credit time.

Sorry, not helpful. I'd probably talk to someone about your office time keeping policy if you think it's not equitable.

[Deleted]

I don't get docked for this either, I just make it up where I can (or not, lol).

[jenn248]

It depends. During times when we were really busy and I was working more than 40 hours a week, I would ask my boss if he wanted me to put in for leave if I was leaving an hour early or coming in an hour late, and he'd always say no. Now that things are relatively quiet at work and I'm only working 40 hours, I put in for leave.

[ebeth]

I don't take PTO but I do make up the time within the same pay period.

[wavepool]

Mar 18, 2016 12:12:13 GMT -5 @bunnybean said:

I would technically have to do the same thing, and it sucks. If I am not here technically during our literal school day, even if I'm not teaching (I don't teach for the first 80 minutes of school), I must take leave.

We have one admin assistant who is amazing and doesn't make us take leave if we're late for something like that, but the rest do. It's really annoying, especially after staying an hour late every now and then.

Same here. I am at school getting things ready/planning/doing school events outside of my contracted day pretty often, but still have to take the sick/personal time if I can only schedule something during my plan period. Thankfully, our day is done early, so I can sometimes get appointments late enough to not miss any of the school day. I just wish it could flex a little bit for times like that! 

[ny96]

Mar 18, 2016 12:16:32 GMT -5 minniemouse said:

Isn't it funny how being salary only benefits the company in most cases? I'm salaried. If I come in late or leave early it should be taken off my PTO balance even if I make up the time, or work over time. I am super lucky to have a supervisor that is flexible and doesn't record it. We usually count it only if it is a 1/2 day or more. This is one reason I'm still working here.

And this is one reason I'm looking for another job. It's funny because they asked me to change to salaried a couple years ago and at the time tried to incentivize it by saying sometimes you'll work more hours, sometimes less hours.

[fortnightlily]

My company recently switched to unlimited PTO, but prior to that you could only take it in minimum half-day increments. My boss never made us track PTO for things like appointments that only made you lose an hour or two, on the understanding that we all sometimes work evenings or weekends when crunch time requires.

Not sure how other departments handled it though.

[dottyblue]

No. My company only docks exempt employees for full days taken. Anything less than 6-8 hours out of work and you aren't required to use leave to cover it.

[hocus2]

I don't have fixed hours so no I don't have to use PTO if I come in late or leave early as long as the work that needs to get done is done. Now if I we're talking about more than hour I make it up at a later time or use PTO.

[Deleted]

My boss's policy is that I'm just held accountable for results - specific hours are not tracked. Sometimes, that means I make up the time by nature of getting my work done on off hours or whatever. Sometimes, that's not necessary.

I will tell you that I work my share of weekends and nights (systems installs) and straight ass overtime. Some years, I've worked 25% of weekends and average 60hrs/wk. So....someone wanting to dock my PTO for a 2 hr. Dr. Appt can fuck right off. It would drive me crazy working in that sort of environment.

I am pointing this out as my specific role May lead to lots of flexibility in that area.

Company policy is 5 sick days year plus regular vacation based on years of service to be used as applicable to cover everything.

[zarapipe]

Yes. I'm salaried but have to fill out a timesheet with what I exactly worked. If I work over 40 I get comp time. If it's just an hour or less I try to make it up during the same week.

[boiler717]

No, never. My boss is very much "get your work done and enjoy yourself." I'm always available during the work day and generally always take calls in the evening / weekend when they come up (which isn't often). I would not like not being treated like an adult.

[osulori]

For salaried employees, if we'll be out for less than two hours we do not have to use PTO. We're encouraged to reschedule any patients we have to cancel, but obviously that doesn't always work out.

[egishere]

not usually...I try to make appointments first thing in morning so if I get started late then I just work through lunch My company is pretty laid back though and I WFH now.

[cjeanette]

We put it in the system because it generates on a calendar people can use to see who is out. I only have PTO taken if I choose that option. We can use comp time up to 4 hours a week for whatever we need. Which usually covers those things.

[thebreakfastclub]

It is NBD to come late or leave early for appointments, provided it's not abused. We had unlimited sick time.

My old boss had 5 kids and didn't care about the hours we worked, as long as we met our goals and could stay when it was crunch time.

[laurack]

I try to work from home whenever I have an appointment as my doctors/dentists etc are near my home not my office. I never put in for time off for that hour or whatever it takes and nobody does here I don't think.

My boss is pretty flexible with this but I don't need to do it that often.

my husband works from home every Thursday so we try to schedule the kids appointments for Thursdays when we can.

[karinothing]

I do, but I have to as a government employee.

[dancingirl21]

Nope never. My company has a policy where if you work a half day, you can take the other half without docking PTO. It's pretty awesome.

ETA: my boss has the mindset that as long as my work is done, she doesn't care when we come in or leave.

[djc315]

No, my department is super flexible. But I have also spent several hours working on a weekend to make sure I met a deadline, so it definitely ebbs and flows. Overall, I think I benefit more.

[jessnpaul]

Nope... my boss doesn't care how many hours I'm here as long as I get my work done! With that being said, I'm careful not to take advantage, but the flexibility has been awesome!

[brady2012]

I typically do not put in if its under an hour because I tend to work at night/early am from home and I don't account for it.  I also accrue comp time for anything I work over an hour and I am terrible at keeping track during my busy season so I know I am shorting myself.  I should be better about it since I used to have billable hours...but its like I hated that so much I have a mental block now.

[tootsie]

I'm technically hourly, but basically treated as a salaried employee. I don't clock in/out, get paid like the salaried employees, etc. Anyway, they're really flexible with appointments and leaving early or coming in late. I just try to make up the hours. There are weeks I'm sure I put in more than 40 hours but I don't bother asking for overtime because they don't nickel and dime me about my hours and I certainly don't want them to start.

[isabel]

It would really piss me off that they are docking your hours like that. I suppose it depends on the company culture though.

We're very free to do what we will with our "PLT" (paid leave time). People are told up front when they hire on that it is ok to leave a little early or come in a little late on occasion. Longer lunches are also acceptable. The idea being that we all sometimes work more than the standard 40 hour week and it is assumed that we get our work done accordingly even if we need to leave early one day. So, I only use vacation time if I am not going to be working and will be out for more than half the day.

[ijack]

Nope. My boss has requested we don't use PTO in less than 4hr increments after me putting in for 2 hours off one day. He said we're salary and it all evens out in the end.