Find the stories about the divorce proceedings from Sydney (sp?). It detailed how she hated her mother, and her mom basically used the children as show props. They didn't want to see her anymore because their relationship was forced.
Oh man, that's rough. Tamara has never been a favorite of mine but regardless of her other faults, I know she loves her kids. And Simon was always a complete jerk to her on the show.
Oooooo I know nothing about the kids of OC housewives other than Jeana's kids are huge c-u-next-Tuesdays. TELL ME MORE.
If someone told me that Shane tortures animals, slaps babies and trips old people, I would absolutely believe it. Without hesitation. He's a terrible person. I think I did see some of that SYTTD (btw, Housewives, SYTTD, this thread has it all), but I'm having trouble recalling. But listen, don't get me wrong. My only point is not she was not as bad as her brothers and the other kids, but honestly, that's not saying very much. She's just basically the only RHOC kid that I think would pour water on a person who was on fire (again, with the exception of Heather's kids, because most of them are too young to call).
I think you're right, eclaires. They never stood a chance. I question whether I've ever seen Lynne sober. But tbh, I don't know if she's on something or just clueless, but either way. Her and that husband (wth is his name??) were so self-involved, I think those girls could have gone missing for a week before they would have noticed.
It's starting back soon, bernsteincat! They're already showing commercials.
(If that doesn't show up, it's a Jonah Hill excited screaming gif.)
suzyp and elleblue...um, no. Briana is no Shane, but she's kind of awful, too. The Brooks thing, where she basically tried to control Vicki's life, even once they weren't living there anymore, was a mess. And I think Brooks is horrible, but she doesn't get to dictate to her mother who she sees or what she does. Moreover, she knows how rocky the dynamic between Tamra and Vicki can be, why would she talk to Tamra about her mother's business? On top of that, her husband is a complete POS and she never reigns his serial killer ass in at all! The way he talks to Vicki, that situation with Lydia's mother--she just stands there like some kind of Vicki while this guy loses it. Lastly, I think she likes the cameras a bit too much also, and I don't trust anyone who would get on television and speak negatively about her own mother. No. I thought Briana was alright at one point, but she is a typical RHOC kid to me.
suzyp and elleblue ...um, no. Briana is no Shane, but she's kind of awful, too. The Brooks thing, where she basically tried to control Vicki's life, even once they weren't living there anymore, was a mess. And I think Brooks is horrible, but she doesn't get to dictate to her mother who she sees or what she does. Moreover, she knows how rocky the dynamic between Tamra and Vicki can be, why would she talk to Tamra about her mother's business? On top of that, her husband is a complete POS and she never reigns his serial killer ass in at all! The way he talks to Vicki, that situation with Lydia's mother--she just stands there like some kind of Vicki while this guy loses it. Lastly, I think she likes the cameras a bit too much also, and I don't trust anyone who would get on television and speak negatively about her own mother. No. I thought Briana was alright at one point, but she is a typical RHOC kid to me.
I actually see those negatives as being part of her husband's influence on her. She's so used to being controlled (by her mother before), it doesn't surprise me at all that she ended up with a controlling H. And now she's following his lead and treating her mother the way he does. Not that that makes it okay, obviously. It absolutely sucks, in a myriad of ways. She should've never thought, much less tried to dictate who Vicki should or should not date, even with Brooks being a special kind of asshole.
Even so, I don't think it makes her a spoiled asshole like most of the RHOC kids.
I'm totally Team Briana (other than her choice of spouse). I cannot imagine how hard it is to see your mom take up with a con man/abuser. In her shoes I probably would use tough love to try and get her out of that mess.
I really liked Lydia - it's a shame she didn't catch on. I'd like to think her kids aren't assholes.
Post by whattheheck on Mar 23, 2016 16:44:49 GMT -5
Back to Bethenny . . . New York now has statutory spousal support. So for example, a SAHM with no income gets 30% of the moneyed spouse's income as support. Calculate child support based on what's leftover.
Formula 1: The court will subtract 20 percent of the supported spouse’s income from 30 percent of the paying spouse’s income. Formula 2: The total income of both will be multiplied by 40 percent and then the supported spouse’s income will be subtracted from that amount.
The court will choose a temporary alimony award based on the lower of the one or two.
If the house has increased in value they should sell the damn thing & just divide the equity. They are spending more on lawyers than the equity in that house. Although I realize they can't do this until they decide if the house is solely or jointly owned.
These two are freaking nuts.
I've had some high income cases over the years. It's interesting to me what some people determine is a need versus a luxury.
My understanding is that he's refused to vacate or agree to sell the property. Like, he won't even be bought out.
If the house has increased in value they should sell the damn thing & just divide the equity. They are spending more on lawyers than the equity in that house. Although I realize they can't do this until they decide if the house is solely or jointly owned.
These two are freaking nuts.
I've had some high income cases over the years. It's interesting to me what some people determine is a need versus a luxury.
My understanding is that he's refused to vacate or agree to sell the property. Like, he won't even be bought out.
This (in addition to things other pp's mentioned, of course) has been one of the main points in my decision that he's an A-grade Ahole
Whatever my dislike for this guy, if I were him, I would fight to the end to keep my kid off reality TV.
I wouldn't want my hypothetical kids on reality TV, but I find it telling that he had NO PROBLEM with his daughter on the show until they split.
Like I said, though, I am biased. I don't know if almost marrying a manipulative mastermind made me more paranoid about manipulative men, or made manipulative men easier to spot. Jason just reminds me too much of my ex, but it is possible I am projecting and he is a choir boy. I doubt that, though. It's probably somewhere in the middle. She was kind of a bitch to him and wants to keep her money. He was kind of a dick to her and feels entitled to some of that money.
I like that she is a smartass though most people hate her. I just remember thinking that she is always super confident, but when around him she was always crying and doubting herself. It was weird.
She cracks me up. When people don't like her, I assume their sense of humor sucks lol.
I hate to hear that, but I am not surprised. She can be very sensitive. We saw this when she fell out with Jill. She ultimately stayed strong, but I think it was really hard on her.
Jill wasn't shit. She was mean as hell until Bethanny became more popular. Next the you know Jill wants to be friends again. I think Bethany felt betrayed which is why she gave Jill the permanent side eye. I don't blame her.
My understanding is that he's refused to vacate or agree to sell the property. Like, he won't even be bought out.
This (in addition to things other pp's mentioned, of course) has been one of the main points in my decision that he's an A-grade Ahole
Yeah his behavior during and after the marriage has pinged my radar that he's not some poor bloke from middle America that got run over by the Bethenny train. Ultimately I think it comes down to the fact that two people who aren't marriage material got married. Boom goes the dynamite.
Post by aliciaflorrick on Mar 23, 2016 21:17:31 GMT -5
I am Team Bethenny all the way. Jason always seemed a bit too eager for the spotlight. The episode where he threw her a surprise party and she got upset about the attention was pretty telling for me. It was a look at me I am such a great husband moment without regard for Bethenny's feelings. She may be a bit crass but at her core she seems to be a hard working honest person. He never owned any of his behavior and made every issue in their marriage out to be her fault because she was broken.