Giuliani: HRC could be considered a founding member of ISIS

[jeaniebueller]

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(CNN) — Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani said Wednesday that Hillary Clinton "could be considered a founding member of ISIS" because she was secretary of state during the Obama administration's withdrawal from Iraq.

Giuliani, a Republican, delivered the sharp criticism in an interview on Fox News' "The O'Reilly Factor" during a segment on the Brussels attacks and the Obama administration's response to them. He was quick to link Clinton to what he saw as failures of the administration's response to ISIS.

"She had her chance to (rally people against ISIS) -- she helped create ISIS. Hillary Clinton could be considered a founding member of ISIS," Giuliani said.



Pressed by host Bill O'Reilly, Giuliani explained his reasoning.

"By being part of an administration withdrew from Iraq. By being part of an administration that let (Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki) run Iraq into the ground, so you forced the Shiites to make a choice. By not intervening in Syria at the proper time. By being part of an administration that drew twelve lines in the sand and made a joke out of it," Guiliani said.



O'Reilly then pointed out that as secretary of state, Clinton was not personally responsible for the decisions, and that the most she could have done to compel Obama to change his policy was resign.

"Which is what a patriot does," Giuliani said.

Earlier Wednesday, Clinton had delivered a speech outlining how she would try to defeat ISIS and protect the United States against terrorism. The former secretary of state, pulling at length from her four years as America's top diplomat, urged tighter cooperation with allies while also pushing those countries to do more to combat terror.

"The threat we face from terrorism is real, it is urgent and it knows no boundaries," Clinton said. And she pushed the European Union to "make good on the proposal to establish a new unified European border and coast guard" as well as invest more in defense.

Clinton also criticized the foreign policy and anti-terror strategies offered by GOP candidates Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in her speech. She said that Cruz's call for increased policing and monitoring of Muslim communities is "wrong, it is counterproductive, it is dangerous," and compared it to "treating American Muslims like criminals" and "racially profiling."

And Clinton blasted Trump's proposal to have the United States withdraw from NATO, saying "If Mr. Trump gets his way, it will be like Christmas in the Kremlin."

During his interview on Fox news, Giuliani -- who has yet to endorse a GOP candidate -- heaped praise on both Trump and Cruz for their approach to fighting ISIS.

"I think Trump and Cruz probably have been the most specific on it, as specific as you would expect at this level of the campaign," the former mayor said. "There's no question they will take the war to ISIS -- exactly how they'd do it, they probably don't know yet, until they get in there."

[thejackpot]

Fuck these people and their incendiary language. She bears no responsibility and he knows it. This is the environment that breeds Trump and Cruz and it is getting old.

[candreco]

How do people not get that words have actual meanings, and you can't just throw them out there without something to back them up?

[Velar Fricative]

There are thousands upon thousands of reasons why I wish 9/11 never happened, and one of them is that this version of Rudy Guiliani wouldn't exist. What an asshole.

[mrsukyankee]

What an asshat. Nothing there but blather.

[2doxies]

Mar 24, 2016 7:49:48 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

There are thousands upon thousands of reasons why I wish 9/11 never happened, and one of them is that this version of Rudy Guiliani wouldn't exist. What an asshole.

Totally agree. The fact that he's considered relevant is so infuriating. And this statement from him is absolute bullshit.

[isabel]

Mar 24, 2016 7:44:51 GMT -5 candreco said:

How do people not get that words have actual meanings, and you can't just throw them out there without something to back them up?

Except that you can and they do. There are no consequences.

[bernsteincat]

Mar 24, 2016 7:44:51 GMT -5 candreco said:

How do people not get that words have actual meanings, and you can't just throw them out there without something to back them up?

This is word for word what I was going to say.

[miniroller]

Mar 24, 2016 8:02:24 GMT -5 isabel said:

Mar 24, 2016 7:44:51 GMT -5 candreco said:

How do people not get that words have actual meanings, and you can't just throw them out there without something to back them up?

Except that you can and they do. There are no consequences.

Contrarily, you have a huge sect of America that will vigorously nod in agreement & file your BS away as truth!
SMH

[jojoandleo]

[jojoandleo]

Mar 24, 2016 8:10:04 GMT -5 miniroller said:

Mar 24, 2016 8:02:24 GMT -5 isabel said:

Except that you can and they do. There are no consequences.

Contrarily, you have a huge sect of America that will vigorously nod in agreement & file your BS away as truth!
SMH

Including BernieBros. You know, the people who accuse Hillary of being Republican while spouting Republican BS to prove it.

[SallyJ]

Couldn't you say the crazy R's are founding members since they got us into the Iraq war in the first place? Or this like women are to blame for getting pregant. No sperms were involved in the making of said baby.

[NewOrleans]

Someone needs a few history lessons and several seats.

I bet Abu Ghraib on beloved Bush's watch did nothing to breed extremism...

[simpsongal]

He's such a joke. He peaked w/his guest spot on Seinfeld.

[granthamite]

The fact that even O'Reilly questioned this logic is telling. But no one who repeats this line of thinking will remember that.

[secretlyevil]

Mar 24, 2016 8:02:24 GMT -5 isabel said:

Mar 24, 2016 7:44:51 GMT -5 candreco said:

How do people not get that words have actual meanings, and you can't just throw them out there without something to back them up?

Except that you can and they do. There are no consequences.

I'm sure he worded it just right so she can't sue him for slander.

[candreco]

Mar 24, 2016 8:02:24 GMT -5 isabel said:

Mar 24, 2016 7:44:51 GMT -5 candreco said:

How do people not get that words have actual meanings, and you can't just throw them out there without something to back them up?

Except that you can and they do. There are no consequences.

True, no consequences for them, scary what it could mean for the US and the world though.

It's something that frustrates me to no end, particularly in this election.  Trump's verbal diarrhea, Sanders' promises to make everything all better with no real plan apparent, and so on. Those are just examples, it's pretty much everyone.

[5kcandlesinthewind]

Mar 24, 2016 7:49:48 GMT -5 Velar Fricative said:

There are thousands upon thousands of reasons why I wish 9/11 never happened, and one of them is that this version of Rudy Guiliani wouldn't exist. What an asshole.

Right? Remind us again what your poll numbers were on September 10, 2001, Rudy. Ass.

[sangria]

Mar 24, 2016 8:44:45 GMT -5 NewOrleans said:

Someone needs a few history lessons and several seats.

I bet Abu Ghraib on beloved Bush's watch did nothing to breed extremism...

This right here is where ISIS was founded. 

[underwaterrhymes]

And this right here is why we don't stand a chance at defeating IS unless we change our approach.

This acknowledges absolutely none of the reasons extremists exist, and instead uses incendiary language to politicize something that has no business being politicized.

Fuck him.