Outlander book fans come hither (no spoilers)

[CurlyQ284]

I'm not normally a gun person but I might bring a gun. A lot easier to defend yourself without priming it and all that. Lots of stuff happens to them where weapons are needed

[mcsangel2]

Apr 19, 2016 20:11:14 GMT -5 CurlyQ284 said:

I'm not normally a gun person but I might bring a gun. A lot easier to defend yourself without priming it and all that. Lots of stuff happens to them where weapons are needed

Thought about that, but modern bullets are different than what they'd have had bullet molds for.

[lilibet]

I would definitely be like Claire & bring back penicillin & also pbj sandwiches. Oh maybe hide the contents of a giant bottle of ibuprofen on my body.


The fiery cross was ok,I remember it being a bit slow but it's been a while since I read it. I loved breath of snow & ashes though.

[CurlyQ284]

Apr 19, 2016 20:10:19 GMT -5 mcsangel2 said:

Apr 19, 2016 20:06:20 GMT -5 CurlyQ284 said:

What would you guys take through the stones? Everything I want to bring needs electricity or I could probably live without.

ETA aside from penicillin

If you think about it, electricity is never ever going to happen. (Grid, lightbulbs that are short lived, etc).

But the thing with pipes for water? Yeah. Running water is the most important factor in civilization - way more important than electricity. Running water (and sewage pipes) are responsible for the decline of a lot of serious communicable diseases.

Basically, any kind of implementation that is newer than the 1780s. Farming, household, etc. Which is probably just about anything you can think of. I mean, steel plows weren't invented until the 1830s!! They were wood before that!

Also any kind of medical implement.

Well yeah, that's what I mean. I think I want to bring something, like a sewing machine and I remember it has to plug in so it gets discarded from my outlander luggage lol.

I had to think for a minute if sewing machines had to be plugged in. Home ec was a Loooonnng time ago

[CurlyQ284]

Apr 19, 2016 20:12:15 GMT -5 mcsangel2 said:

Apr 19, 2016 20:11:14 GMT -5 CurlyQ284 said:

I'm not normally a gun person but I might bring a gun. A lot easier to defend yourself without priming it and all that. Lots of stuff happens to them where weapons are needed

Thought about that, but modern bullets are different than what they'd have had bullet molds for.

I checked with DH and he told me how bullets are made. I think bree could do it! Haha

He didn't look at me crazy when I said "so let's say, hypothetically that I travel through the stones...."

[flex]

Matches, zippers and Mucinex.

[CurlyQ284]

Maybe a cookbook. I want all my foods and I have a bad memory.

[mcsangel2]

Apr 19, 2016 20:12:50 GMT -5 CurlyQ284 said:

Apr 19, 2016 20:10:19 GMT -5 mcsangel2 said:

If you think about it, electricity is never ever going to happen. (Grid, lightbulbs that are short lived, etc).

But the thing with pipes for water? Yeah. Running water is the most important factor in civilization - way more important than electricity. Running water (and sewage pipes) are responsible for the decline of a lot of serious communicable diseases.

Basically, any kind of implementation that is newer than the 1780s. Farming, household, etc. Which is probably just about anything you can think of. I mean, steel plows weren't invented until the 1830s!! They were wood before that!

Also any kind of medical implement.

Well yeah, that's what I mean. I think I want to bring something, like a sewing machine and I remember it has to plug in so it gets discarded from my outlander luggage lol.

I had to think for a minute if sewing machines had to be plugged in. Home ec was a Loooonnng time ago

The first sewing machines were operated by foot treadles. They were invented in the late 18th c, before electricity.

[flex]

Apr 19, 2016 20:12:50 GMT -5 CurlyQ284 said:

Apr 19, 2016 20:10:19 GMT -5 mcsangel2 said:

If you think about it, electricity is never ever going to happen. (Grid, lightbulbs that are short lived, etc).

But the thing with pipes for water? Yeah. Running water is the most important factor in civilization - way more important than electricity. Running water (and sewage pipes) are responsible for the decline of a lot of serious communicable diseases.

Basically, any kind of implementation that is newer than the 1780s. Farming, household, etc. Which is probably just about anything you can think of. I mean, steel plows weren't invented until the 1830s!! They were wood before that!

Also any kind of medical implement.

Well yeah, that's what I mean. I think I want to bring something, like a sewing machine and I remember it has to plug in so it gets discarded from my outlander luggage lol.

I had to think for a minute if sewing machines had to be plugged in. Home ec was a Loooonnng time ago

Old-timey sewing machines used to be run by pedal, so you could take one of those with you.  lol

Jinx mcsangel2

[mcsangel2]

Apr 19, 2016 20:13:56 GMT -5 flex said:

Matches, zippers and Mucinex.

Ha ha ha ha ha.......come back and discuss in a couple more books.

[CurlyQ284]

Neosporin. Vitamins.

[noodleskooze]

Ok so should I just skip the rest of TFC? Skip to a end chapter? Push through?

[hopecounts]

Apr 19, 2016 20:14:38 GMT -5 mcsangel2 said:

Apr 19, 2016 20:12:50 GMT -5 CurlyQ284 said:

Well yeah, that's what I mean. I think I want to bring something, like a sewing machine and I remember it has to plug in so it gets discarded from my outlander luggage lol.

I had to think for a minute if sewing machines had to be plugged in. Home ec was a Loooonnng time ago

The first sewing machines were operated by foot treadles. They were invented in the late 18th c, before electricity.

My mom has my great great grandmother's peddle sewing machine (GG Grandma gave it to GGrandma who gave it to G Aunt who gave it to Mom) I would totally take it with me.

[lostrn]

Apr 19, 2016 20:18:18 GMT -5 noodleskooze said:

Ok so should I just skip the rest of TFC? Skip to a end chapter? Push through?

I don't have a definite answer for you but good luck. I struggled with that book. It took me 3 starts before I finished. And I took a break, so now I'm a little lost with the characters again. Jeez.

[CurlyQ284]

Apr 19, 2016 17:47:45 GMT -5 wkatie said:

Apr 19, 2016 17:45:53 GMT -5 noodleskooze said:

I have been working on The Fiery Cross FOR.EV.ER.

I'm about to just read a synopsis and move on to the next one.

The audio version was over 55 hours long, omg. I took some breaks.

I have loved, loved the series, but she can very wordy. And really descriptive on how things smell, lol.

I went to a book signing and she talked about her writing process, it's kind of fascinating, she doesn't write along plot lines. She said she saw a goblet in her head and described it. And from the way it looked, the only place it could be is jocasta's table. Then she builds the scene up around that. Then she stitches all the scenes together.

The long descriptions can be a bit much but she says she doesn't get writers block this way, so that's a plus.

::cough GEORGE R R MARTIN COUGH::

[cep1976]

Apr 19, 2016 20:06:20 GMT -5 CurlyQ284 said:

What would you guys take through the stones? 

A Diva Cup, lol. When I imagine whatever they must have used to deal with periods, it all seems deeply unappealing to me.

[DarcyLongfellow]

I feel like I'd be a doomed time traveler because I'm blind as a bat without contacts. Maybe I could get laser eye surgery first :-) Really, aside from contacts, modern medicine would be the thing I'd really want to bring. I agree with PP -- I'm not bringing some tiny pack of 4 syringes of penicillin. I'm wearing a dress made from pockets stuffed with the stuff. Also menstrual cups, for sure. (Multiple because if something happened to mine I wouldn't be able to replace it!)

Also -- re: the Lord John books, the novellas are so-so, but the full books are awesome. I love Lord John. He might be my favorite character.

[onomatopoeia]

Apr 19, 2016 20:17:38 GMT -5 CurlyQ284 said:

Neosporin. Vitamins.

Yes!

I kind of side eyed Claire when she went back and only bought some penicillin (ok) and a peanut butter sandwich.  Girl, at least bring some toothpaste and a toothbrush and a stash of Diflucan pills.  Yeast infections in the 18th century would be no joke.

[badtzmaru22]

Apr 20, 2016 9:22:22 GMT -5 DarcyLongfellow said:

Also -- re: the Lord John books, the novellas are so-so, but the full books are awesome. I love Lord John. He might be my favorite character.

Thank you for this!! I love him too, and will keep reading. LJ and the succubus was actually pretty good, and I like DG's writing style. I just don't think his full personality has been shown yet, at least in the few I've read so far. It makes sense though, for the years these stories have covered.

[cep1976]

Apr 20, 2016 9:46:37 GMT -5 onomatopoeia said:

Apr 19, 2016 20:17:38 GMT -5 CurlyQ284 said:

Neosporin. Vitamins.

Yes!

I kind of side eyed Claire when she went back and only bought some penicillin (ok) and a peanut butter sandwich.  Girl, at least bring some toothpaste and a toothbrush and a stash of Diflucan pills.  Yeast infections in the 18th century would be no joke.

Actually, boric acid suppositories are a super effective yeast infection treatment. If she could get her hands on sulfuric acid for anesthesia, I assume she could get boric acid as well. (Sidenote: I think I've thought too much about this.)

[badtzmaru22]

RE: The peanut butter. Did she bring that all the way from Boston? It never said, and it has been bothering me. There was not peanut butter in Aberdeen in the '80s when I lived there, and for a time there was a specialty American food store. We had to bring it back with us. I feel pretty confident in saying there wasn't peanut butter in Inverness in 1968.

[mcsangel2]

Apr 20, 2016 19:17:12 GMT -5 badtzmaru22 said:

RE: The peanut butter. Did she bring that all the way from Boston? It never said, and it has been bothering me. There was not peanut butter in Aberdeen in the '80s when I lived there, and for a time there was a specialty American food store. We had to bring it back with us. I feel pretty confident in saying there wasn't peanut butter in Inverness in 1968.

Ha!! I love hearing random obscure goofs like this!

But this would bother me waaaaaaaaaaaaaay less than messing up when WWII ended.

[amberlyrose]

Mosquito repellent. Don't want to get malaria!

[badtzmaru22]

Can you still get a smallpox vaccine? Or should I make a stop in 1968 on my way back to the 1700s? Asking for a friend.

[Deleted]

Apr 19, 2016 18:23:50 GMT -5 VillainV said:

Apr 19, 2016 18:05:34 GMT -5 amberlyrose said:

Drums of Autumn and Fiery Cross dragged for me. The Ridge stuff just did not excite.
Everything gets kinda crazy from here on, though!

Aw, I really like the Ridge stuff. Maybe because it's sorta near where I grew up, so it feels kinda like home a little?

I liked the ridge too! It was pretty quaint. Much slower than so many of them.

I think DIA is the slowest of them all!

[Deleted]

Apr 19, 2016 19:56:32 GMT -5 mcsangel2 said:

Apr 19, 2016 19:44:19 GMT -5 badtzmaru22 said:

Ohhh keep going! a Breath of Snow and Ashes is SO good, and FINALLY some of my questions were answered. I had to start keeping a list!

I've taken a little break waiting for Echo in the Bone from the library, and I am reading a Lord John book in the meantime. It is not what I'd hoped, but maybe it's just because it's one of the novella compilations? Hand of Devils. I LOVE LOVE LOVE LJ in the main books.

I thought that one was meh. I would recommend #2 (Brotherhood of the Blade) and #4 (Scottish Prisoner), though.

In fact, I recommend you read BotB before Echo in the Bone, because a character makes a reappearance and I was all kinda confused why everyone was acting like he was a big deal.

The Scottish prisoner is so so good.

[VillainV]

Apr 20, 2016 20:12:24 GMT -5 badtzmaru22 said:

Can you still get a smallpox vaccine? Or should I make a stop in 1968 on my way back to the 1700s? Asking for a friend.

Apparently Claire and Geillis both had the smallpox vaccine, because that's how Claire new Geillis was a time-traveler during the witch trials in Outlander.  So Claire had the vaccine in the 40s and Geillis in like 60s?

ETA:  D'oh! totally misunderstood what you were asking...

[mcsangel2]

Apr 20, 2016 20:12:24 GMT -5 badtzmaru22 said:

Can you still get a smallpox vaccine? Or should I make a stop in 1968 on my way back to the 1700s? Asking for a friend.

Google tells me, no. They stopped giving it in 1972. You cannot get the vaccine, even at your own expense, because it includes a live virus, and they won't risk it spreading.

[VillainV]

Apr 20, 2016 21:23:14 GMT -5 mcsangel2 said:

Apr 20, 2016 20:12:24 GMT -5 badtzmaru22 said:

Can you still get a smallpox vaccine? Or should I make a stop in 1968 on my way back to the 1700s? Asking for a friend.

Google tells me, no. They stopped giving it in 1972. You cannot get the vaccine, even at your own expense, because it includes a live virus, and they won't risk it spreading.

Uh, I got the smallpox vaccine in like 2006?

[mcsangel2]

Apr 20, 2016 21:27:13 GMT -5 VillainV said:

Apr 20, 2016 21:23:14 GMT -5 mcsangel2 said:

Google tells me, no. They stopped giving it in 1972. You cannot get the vaccine, even at your own expense, because it includes a live virus, and they won't risk it spreading.

Uh, I got the smallpox vaccine in like 2006?

How, and where?? Are you a government employee?

Per the CDC:

Routine vaccination of the American public against smallpox stopped in 1972 after the disease was eradicated in the United States. Until recently, the U.S. government provided the smallpox vaccine only to a few hundred scientists and medical professionals who work with smallpox and similar viruses in a research setting. After the events of September and October, 2001, however, the U.S. government took further actions to improve its level of preparedness against terrorism. For smallpox, this included updating a response plan and increasing the amount of smallpox vaccine in the stockpile. We now have enough vaccine in the stockpile to vaccinate every person in the United States in the event of a smallpox emergency. (updated Dec 29, 2004)



Should I get vaccinated against smallpox?

The smallpox vaccine is not available to the public at this time.

www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/smallpox/vaccination/faq.asp