Trump in trouble with the Rolling Stones

[WanderingWinoZ]

Shouldn't this be politician rule #1?  Ask/pay for permission to use a song before using it!?!?


talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rolling-stones-trump-no-permission


The Rolling Stones have joined a steady stream of musicians asking GOP frontrunner Donald Trump to stop playing their music at his campaign events.



“The Rolling Stones have never given permission to the Trump campaign to use their songs and have requested that they cease all use immediately,” the band said Wednesday in a statement obtained by the BBC.



Trump routinely takes the stage at rallies and victory speeches to the British rock band’s songs. “Start Me Up,” “Sympathy For The Devil,” “Brown Sugar” and “You Can’t Always Get What You Want” are particular favorites.



Asked about the band’s cease-and-desist request Thursday morning on CNBC’s “Squawk Box," Trump said, “I have no problem with it.”



“I like their songs,” he continued. “You know, we use so many songs. We have the rights to use them. I always buy the rights.”



Several other artists have asked Trump to stop playing their songs, including Adele, Aerosmith and Neil Young. In one of the more colorful requests, R.E.M. frontman Michael Stipe called Trump a “sad, attention-grabbing, power-hungry” man and told him to stop using his band's music for his “moronic charade of a campaign.”

[pixy0stix]

So he's lying when he says he has the rights to play the songs. I'm not shocked.

[meshaliuknits]

I feel like using a song without the rights is a political rite of passage.

[Alyssa]

May 5, 2016 11:04:57 GMT -5 meshaliuknits said:

I feel like using a song without the rights is a political rite of passage.

It is quite a trend with some of these politicians.

[litebright]

Those darn liberal musicians don't want Rs to play their songs. And the Rs know it. So they use them until they get called on it and then switch to something else until they get called on that.

538 even looked into it. There were all of two instances of Ds being asked to stop (including one for Obama), and dozens for the Rs.

fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/the-long-history-of-musicians-telling-republicans-to-stop-playing-their-music/

[JRo]

May 5, 2016 11:16:54 GMT -5 litebright said:

Those darn liberal musicians don't want Rs to play their songs. And the Rs know it. So they use them until they get called on it and then switch to something else until they get called on that.

538 even looked into it. There were all of two instances of Ds being asked to stop (including one for Obama), and dozens for the Rs.

fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/the-long-history-of-musicians-telling-republicans-to-stop-playing-their-music/

Oh man, McCain had a rough go of it, lol.

[ESF]

For being all rah rah America, I'm surprised he'd use songs from a British band. Well, not actually surprised because he's a moron whose political positions are just insane ramblings with no thought behind them. But you know what I mean.

[Deleted]

May 5, 2016 11:27:08 GMT -5 ESF said:

For being all rah rah America, I'm surprised he'd use songs from a British band. Well, not actually surprised because he's a moron whose political positions are just insane ramblings with no thought behind them. But you know what I mean.

The underlying assumption to this statement is that Trump knows they're British. That seems like a questionable assumption.

[heyjude]

May 5, 2016 11:04:57 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

So he's lying when he says he has the rights to play the songs. I'm not shocked.

Seriously. Everything out of his mouth is a giant lie. He should be the one called Lyin Trump.

Tall Tale Trump?

[iamlaila]

Trump is such a pathological liar, claiming he has the rights. Is there truth to anything he says? Yesterday, in an interview with Wolf Blitzer, Trump claimed that Hillary started the "birther" controversy/movement. Wolf at the end of the segment corrected the record saying it's false. I wish they would fact check in real time during the upcoming debates and call Trump out on every single lie.

[mdgirl]

The face I made when I read that he uses "Brown Sugar"...

adding a gif to be clear

[readyin07]

So dumb question...not that I am trying to find an out for Trump lol.

Licensing rights are obtained through the publisher obviously. Is it not possible that rights were obtained through the publisher and the artists are still just irritated by it b/c they don't like the candidate? Or are all these cases of improper usage?

[heyjude]

Deception Donald?

[pinkeggs]

May 5, 2016 11:04:57 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

So he's lying when he says he has the rights to play the songs. I'm not shocked.

He's literally delusional.

[WOT?*]

May 5, 2016 12:12:58 GMT -5 readyin07 said:

So dumb question...not that I am trying to find an out for Trump lol.

Licensing rights are obtained through the publisher obviously. Is it not possible that rights were obtained through the publisher and the artists are still just irritated by it b/c they don't like the candidate? Or are all these cases of improper usage?

I'm sure they checked before they opened their mouths. Mick Jagger is actually a brilliant businessman.

If it's anything like the movie releases I get for the schools, the production company/label has a company they use (or they are in-house). It's a simple process. Contact the label (or google the production company + copyright release online), request permission (in righting), pay for the copyright release (for movies in schools it's something like $150 for a movie or $450 for unlimited uses of any movie in the library) and you have the release. If he had the release, it would be easy-peasy to show it, since they mail you a copy. I also always get an e-mail copy. The artist doesn't have a say, but in some cases, such as, I'm sure the Rolling Stones (e.g. Mick Jagger as the businessman he is) owns the rights to his music library. There was a bit of a tussle a number of years ago when Paul McCartney tried to buy the rights to the Beatles library and Michael Jackson outbid him. AFAIK, the Beatles library is still part of the Jackson estate.

[picksthemusic]

May 5, 2016 13:21:06 GMT -5 WOT?* said:

May 5, 2016 12:12:58 GMT -5 readyin07 said:

So dumb question...not that I am trying to find an out for Trump lol.

Licensing rights are obtained through the publisher obviously. Is it not possible that rights were obtained through the publisher and the artists are still just irritated by it b/c they don't like the candidate? Or are all these cases of improper usage?

I'm sure they checked before they opened their mouths. Mick Jagger is actually a brilliant businessman.

If it's anything like the movie releases I get for the schools, the production company/label has a company they use (or they are in-house). It's a simple process. Contact the label (or google the production company + copyright release online), request permission (in righting), pay for the copyright release (for movies in schools it's something like $150 for a movie or $450 for unlimited uses of any movie in the library) and you have the release. If he had the release, it would be easy-peasy to show it, since they mail you a copy. I also always get an e-mail copy. The artist doesn't have a say, but in some cases, such as, I'm sure the Rolling Stones (e.g. Mick Jagger as the businessman he is) owns the rights to his music library. There was a bit of a tussle a number of years ago when Paul McCartney tried to buy the rights to the Beatles library and Michael Jackson outbid him. AFAIK, the Beatles library is still part of the Jackson estate.

I'm pretty sure Paul bought them back. Oh, never mind, looks like he's setting up the process to get the rights back:

www.billboard.com/articles/news/7263857/paul-mccartney-beatles-songs-publishing

[mbcdefg]

[orval]

I think for music you can get an ASCAP license that gives you the right to play music publicly. We used to have this in minor league baseball so we could play music on the PA system at games. I would bet Trump does have this license.

[imobviouslystaying]

I'm all about musicians getting the rights and royalties to which they are entitled.

But I am beyond gotdamned tired of them whining and wheedling that people will think a musician supports a candidate merey because their music is playing at the rally.

By this token of logic Freddie Mercury is a fan of every single professional sport team ever.

Also, show of hands if you EVER think a musician gave personal permission to a candidate to play their music at a rally. I just assume either the candidate or the venue just played the music because whatever and then the musician either didn't know about it or didn't hate the candidate enough to protest.